<p>Any one else sick of people asking about if the contract colleges are really part of Cornell? Or is it just me?</p>
<p>meeee!! ok so funny story... i actually had to switch dentists b/c every time I went, he would ask me what school I went to, and I would say "Cornell" and he would say "which one?" and I would be like "Cornell University" and he would be like "No, the state one or the real one" and I would get <em>ed off at him and be like *</em>, so then I switched to a different dentist.</p>
<p>haha i didn't know that p. isse d was a bad word, or w t. f</p>
<p>yay, i am not alone (I just hope I get accepted to ILR)</p>
<p>haha....my optometrist always asks me the same question....drives me nuts!</p>
<p>It might have to do with the fact that nobody really seems to know the answer. I mean people on this site are adament that they are part of Cornell and that SUNY has nothing to do with it, but then you look and SUNY has the schools on their website etc (I can not imagine that Cornell would allow them to get away with lying and claiming three of Cornell's schools are their's for this long...), and that Cornell's wikipedia page (which you think would be changed by the school at this point) has a whole section which clearly groups CALS, ILR, HE, etc. as part of SUNY (which cites Cornell's website and New York State Education Law specifically in regard their relationship with SUNY). I mean, I am going to ILR next year and as long as Cornell is on the diploma,I get a good education, and have all the same opportunities as the non public school kids (is it even public?! I have no idea), I have resigned myself to not caring what it technically is, but it appears as though nobody can say with 100% confidence why there is so much conflicting information.</p>
<p>"I mean people on this site are adament that they are part of Cornell "</p>
<p>it's because the people so adamant about the issue actually know the facts. </p>
<p>"but then you look and SUNY has the schools on their website etc (I can not imagine that Cornell would allow them to get away with lying and claiming three of Cornell's schools are their's for this long...)"</p>
<p>They're listed as affiliate campuses. SUNY gives $180 million a year to Cornell, if they want a picture of their campus in the SUNY book, they can have that picture. </p>
<p>"nobody can say with 100% confidence why there is so much conflicting information."</p>
<p>There's not any conflicting information. It's public information that each college is owned and operated by Cornell. In accordance with a contract with the NY State government, Cornell gets some extra money from SUNY.</p>
<p>they're private schools</p>
<p>I had a person call it "SUNY Cornell" and that made me a bit annoyed, because they're clearly not called that! Otherwise, I don't really care what people think of it, cuz I don't get how SUNY is related in the mix and funding and all.</p>
<p>since I'll be the one getting the good education and paying less money cuz I live in NYS, I am not going to put much more thought into it.</p>
<p>Before 2002, the medical school affiliated with Northwestern was called Northwestern University Medical School. In 2002, Reuben Feinberg, a patient who was hospitalized at Northwestern Memorial Hospital for a heart attack, made a $75 million donation to the school. From then on, the school was renamed Feinberg School of Medicine. Nothing's changed except the name and the fact the school was $75 million richer. The fact that the school is now named Feinberg does not make Feinberg students any less of a Northwestern student nor does it suggest that the school somehow is no longer affiliated with Northwestern nor does it suggest Feinberg is now calling the shots. It simply means that he donated a bunch of money and is entitled to some recognition.</p>
<p>The same applies to the state-subsized schools at Cornell. If the state is willing to funnel millions of dollars into the schools, shouldn't they be allowed to at least list the schools as their beneficiaries?</p>
<p>As Shakespeare once wrote, "What's in a name?"</p>
<p>They are obliged to accept more NY state students as a result of the money they get from NY state...</p>
<p>...Cornell is sort of in a league of its own considering the strange SUNY affiliation.</p>
<p>Read the *****ing sticky on the top.</p>
<p>Q: Is Cornell affiliated with SUNY?
A: Cornell is a private institution, receiving most of its funding through tuition, research grants, and alumni contributions. Three of its seven undergraduate colleges and the graduate-level College of Veterinary Medicine are called contract or statutory colleges. These divisions receive partial funding from the state of New York to support their research and service mission in niche fields. Residents of New York enrolled in the contract colleges pay reduced tuition. Furthermore, the governor of the state serves as an ex-officio member of the board of trustees. Despite some similarities, Cornell's contract colleges are not public or state schools – they are private institutions that Cornell operates by contract with the state government.</p>
<p>Every college defines its own academic programs, manages its own admissions, and confers its own degrees. The degrees are all from Cornell University. New York State and SUNY have no say in any of the workings of the Cornell contract colleges. The only difference between a contract and an endowed college at Cornell is where some money comes from. A state college, on the other hand, receives nearly all its money from the government and is operated by the government.</p>
<p>Cornell is NOT obliged to accept more NYS students in the contract colleges. They most likely accept more NY students in the contract colleges because more NY students apply to them--I mean, why wouldn't you want a $10,000+ discount on an Ivy League education?</p>
<p>I think it's easier to be a student from a state like Wyoming to get into a contract college from NY.</p>
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<p>I think Cornell's probably the most misunderstood of all of the top schools in terms of the public/private thing, its affiliation with SUNY, grade inflation/deflation, suicide statistics, etc.</p>
<p>It's not "easier" for anyone to get into the contract colleges based on which state he/she is from. Every application is treated exactly the same. The contract colleges just happen to admit more from NYS because a lot more applications are from there.</p>
<p>yes i am, i think people should read their website lol</p>
<p>I'm going to borrow Tun's post because it explains the state funding issue perfectly. Cornell has an agreement (which other Ivies tried to get with their states) to educate students for New York industries. It has nothing to do with difficulty or anything like that. </p>
<p>Q: Is Cornell affiliated with SUNY?
A: Cornell is a private institution, receiving most of its funding through tuition, research grants, and alumni contributions. Three of its seven undergraduate colleges and the graduate-level College of Veterinary Medicine are called contract or statutory colleges. These divisions receive partial funding from the state of New York to support their research and service mission in niche fields. Residents of New York enrolled in the contract colleges pay reduced tuition. Furthermore, the governor of the state serves as an ex-officio member of the board of trustees. Despite some similarities, Cornell's contract colleges are not public or state schools they are private institutions that Cornell operates by contract with the state government.</p>
<p>Every college defines its own academic programs, manages its own admissions, and confers its own degrees. The degrees are all from Cornell University. New York State and SUNY have no say in any of the workings of the Cornell contract colleges. The only difference between a contract and an endowed college at Cornell is where some money comes from. A state college, on the other hand, receives nearly all its money from the government and is operated by the government.</p>