<p>My son was accepted to NAPS for the class of 2010. He is thrilled! When he called the admissions team to ask if he should still go on his nomination interviews, they said no. He asked if he should still re-take the SAT's (his math score was low) they said no. Now I am wondering if he should still be applying for his NROTC schools? NROTC is waiting for a new math score, which would mean HOURS of study which he is not motivated to do now,(especially after the admissions guy at USNA said no...) but I am wondering if we should let them know he is not taking it again? Should he continue on his school applications?? I know if he gets hurt between now and the start of NAPS he can't go, but it seems like an awful lot of work and application fees to continue on that path. He had also applied to ARMY ROTC, but has not completed the application yet. He spent hours and hours on all these applications and USNA is really his choice above all else. It really seems to be a toss up as to who you talk to about whether he should continue with these -- and of course, being a kid -- he doesn't want to and is enjoying being "done". Does anyone have any advice about this??</p>
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<p>I know if he gets hurt between now and the start of NAPS he can't go..
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<p>If he gets hurt that badly, he wouldn't be able to get a NROTC scholarship either, would he? </p>
<p>Don't they require DODMERB qualification, same as NAPS? </p>
<p>Now, a civilian non-ROTC school application is a different matter.......</p>
<p>Good point. Had not thought of that. Yes, they do require a DODMERB qualificaiton, which he obviously does have. His ultimate goal is to be a Naval officer - and a SEAL -- though I am secretly hoping he will find out the SEAL's are not the way to go once he gets in there -- but that is just the mother in me!</p>
<p>Does the Naval Academy still send someone to your graduation if you get NAPS?? It seems pretty important to my son, so I thought I would ask. He forgot to ask his Blue and Gold Officer when he called him to give him the good news.</p>
<p>The Academy does not "send" anyone to your graduation - you request or offer your BGO to attend and present your appointment. In a situation for NAPS/foundation your BGO will make the call as to if it is appropriate.</p>
<p>For a young man year before my son who went to USMA's foundation program, his BGO equivalent did attend the awards ceremony, and presented his "scholarship."</p>
<p>Make sure it is important to your son - not just for you. My son did not want to have his Appointment presented at his awards for various reasons.</p>
<p>I am curious as to your son's acceptance of a low SAT score -
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Now I am wondering if he should still be applying for his NROTC schools? NROTC is waiting for a new math score, which would mean HOURS of study which he is not motivated to do now,(especially after the admissions guy at USNA said no...)
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Taking the "easy road" and not following through on something that should be important, especially for other applications, is not a quality that will get you very far at USNA. Will he settle for "c's at NAPS or will he strive and work harder for the A and B which do not matter since above a C average gets you to USNA anyway?</p>
<p>Ok - fair question. I do not think my son is taking the easy road by far. His road to Annapolis has not been, nor will it be, since he's not there yet, an easy one by any stretch - and I know it is not easy for anyone. He has been working hard for 4 or 5 years and has had to overcome many obstacles to get this far. We discussed this at length and his thoughts were that - really when it came down to it, he only ever really wanted to go to USNA. His math and science are not as high as they could be - some is due to his choices and a lot is due to the fact that he goes to a small private Catholic school where they must take theology every semester. This takes up a slot in the schedule where kids in public schools can take another academic course. They have limited resources as to the higher science courses and math courses he could take also. Now, since hind sight is 20/20, could he have rearranged his schedules earlier in his high school career to have time his senior year to get to the ones that were offered? Yes, probably. But we don't always know what we know until we know it. He's a good student, he works hard for the grades he gets and he has taken the SAT's 3 times. Went up once, went down the next. Who knows why. Before the NAPS letter came, he had gotten a plan together - mostly on his own, with a little guidance from me, and was fully prepared to study for the math section on the SAT's for 2 hours a day -- the time he was previously in football. He did not hesitate. He was ready to do that. Then the NAPS letter comes along and he calls - talks to an admission officer - who by the way went to NAPS himself -- and the guy says -- You are done man!! Relax! Enjoy the rest of your senior year! Really -- would YOU put yourself thru hours of study to take a test now - when the admissions officer at USNA told you it wouldn't make a difference anyway?? I guess some would. But I don't think his decision to let it go at this point means he wants to take the easy road or that he is not a person who follows thru. He knows he has a little ground to make up - or they would not have offered him NAPS. </p>
<p>That said - the graduation thing is important to HIM. I didn't really even realize that anyone comes to graduation even if you get straight into the academy. He's proud, he has worked hard and so, if we can make that happen for him, I don't think that's really too much to ask. I just wondered how it worked at other graduations.</p>
<p>thanks for your thoughts - I hope I did not sound too defensive, I tried not to take it personally!! ;-)</p>
<p>I do believe that NAPSters do take the SAT again during NAPS. At least once.
Just so you know.</p>
<p>I have seen the Blue and Gold officers attend awards ceremonies to present the appointment letter. This is merely a formality, since the letters have already been received by the candidate. The best advice is to ask the BGO to attend and if appropriate within the ceremony to present the offer letter.</p>
<p>Don't NAPSters have to seek nominations too? I was under the impression that even though they can get a Sec of Navy nomination - the Academy would like them to receive a MOC's nomination too. I seem to recall seeing a NAPSter at one of my son's MOC interviews. Could be wrong though.</p>
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Yes, absolutely. They should apply to their two US Senators and US Representative and the VP.</p>
<p>We don't take the SAT's again. We're told to apply to all nomination sources that we're eligible for, but we're guaranteed a spot in the next class as long as we graduate from the program, pass the PRT and get the recommendation from the CO. Our company officer did say that if we're not successful in getting a nomination, we'll be eligible for the Secretary of the Navy nomination. "2.00 good to GO!"</p>
<p>^^^I certainly hope you are setting your expectations higher than 2.0 good to go.... Be cautious of the little caveat of Recommendation from the CO - no recs do happen. You say eligible for Secretary of the Navy - is that a guarantee?</p>
<p>Re: SATs: Good point from Luigi re: physical injury preventing your son from NROTC just as it would keep him out of NAPS. He still needs a plan B, but if he has one w/ his current SATs (such as community college) and the NAPS admissions officer told him to relax and enjoy, of course that's what he wants to do! I think it's good advice, and probably something he'll never again hear from anyone associated w/ the Navy! </p>
<p>Re: Nominations: Your son doesn't need a nom to go to NAPS this summer 09, but he will be encouraged to apply for USNA nom's in the fall of 09, while @ NAPS. If he doesn't receive one, NAPS admin will work w/ him on a SecNav nom. I don't know if that's a 'guarantee.' but I've been following this pretty carefully for the last few years and haven't heard of a NAPSter who needed a SecNav nom NOT getting one.</p>
<p>Re: Retaking SATs @ NAPS: When my son was @ NAPS (07), he didn't retake SATs. </p>
<p>Re: HS Presentation: As noted, that's up to the BGO (though some kids w/ a MOC nom get participation from the MOC's office), and also the school. Believe it or not, some schools don't want a military representative @ their awards event.</p>
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<p>God's in the way of progress and A's in math! :eek:</p>
<p>Now that's an original "yes, but ..." :confused: A for originality though. ;) I really think a year @ Naps won't hurt a bit. I believe the 2.0 "rule" is pretty accurate; in fact, I'ver heard one current Mid reset that bar to new lows. I believe it's known as the McCain Rule or something like that ...</p>
<p>NativeTexan, no worries I certainly have higher expectations than a 2.00, that's just the lingo around here. The Secretary of the Navy nomination is pretty much a guarantee if you finish the program and was not able to get a nomination from their representative/senator. Recommendation from the CO you're right, some don't happen, again if you complete the program, have favorable character and have passed the PRT, you shouldn't have a problem getting it.</p>
<p>ok - here I go -- sucked in again!! God is certainly not in the way -- but TIME is -- and really -- I deserve the sarcasm because I should have PM'd the individual, but is it necessary to be like that??</p>
<p>pknguyen44 -- sorry, what is PRT??</p>
<p>PRT: Physical Readiness Test</p>
<p>Oct. 2008 join date? You will soon learn that many people on the navy thread have nothing better to do than look for every possible fault in your post, in how you are raising your child, how your child is applying to the NA, how they could do it better, why you don't know of what you speak, etc., etc., etc.,<br>
Welcome to CC Naval Academy; it's been worse at various times.</p>
<p>He got into NAPS. Congratulations.
Take it one step at a time. If he is in NAPS, there is probably no particular areason to bust his butt trying to improve scores. Sure, lots of things COULD happen but there is risk in everyday life. So . . .don't worry about it.</p>
<p>If he wants a presentation, ask your BGO how that might be accomplished. My son did not ask; the BGO offered to come. But, when it came down to it, the BGO could not make and he asked another officer to attend. I'm not sure how you quantify the value of the NAPS scholarship, guess somebody can do that easily enough.</p>
<p>Long and short of it? Do what you think is right. It will all work out.</p>
<p>Does an appointment to the Prep School require a nomination?</p>
<p>No. One is required to gain an appointment from the prep school into the academy.</p>