<p>"Really? Because every time I look at it, I see very few democratic governments engaged in war amongst themselves. </p>
<p>America and Israel are the ones always at war, and they are democratic nations."** Did you read where it said "Amongst themselves" and not "against dictatorships"?**</p>
<p>"He means that we want to go to war to remove a brutal dictator, so the people can live in peace. Happy?"</p>
<p>Bin Laden will get away with 9/11 under this administration. What do you have to say about that? ** Wait, so you are saying its Bush's fault we can't find Bin Laden, when he could be HIDING ANYWHERE IN THE MIDDLE EAST (except for Israel)? Puuhleaze, we are doing the best we can. Ok, so if Kerry was president, and he couldn't find Bin Laden, you would blame him too? Ridiculous**</p>
<p>"Republicans are all about individual freedom."</p>
<p>Yeahhhhh right. No wonder why they oppose abortion and gay marriages with their Christian ideologies. ** You are a democrat and I have a quote where you said Gays should have no rights at all. What I meant, is that Democrats want a larger, more powerful government,"**</p>
<p>Did you read where it said "Amongst themselves" and not "against dictatorships"?</p>
<p>Neither Israel nor America are fighting against dictatorships. </p>
<p>" Wait, so you are saying its Bush's fault we can't find Bin Laden, when he could be HIDING ANYWHERE IN THE MIDDLE EAST (except for Israel)? Puuhleaze, we are doing the best we can. "</p>
<p>Bush admitted that Bin laden is no longer his priority.</p>
<p>"You are a democrat and I have a quote where you said Gays should have no rights at all. What I meant, is that Democrats want a larger, more powerful government"</p>
<p>Its not about what I think, you said Republicans stand for individual rights, which they apparently dont.</p>
<p>DATurtle please..i beg you...dont argue with these elitist, snobby, idiots who think that their views are 100% accurate just because they have straight A's in high school. Trust me dont argue with them it gets you nowhere...they are too dumb to change their minds</p>
<p>Did you read where it said "Amongst themselves" and not "against dictatorships"?</p>
<p>Neither Israel nor America are fighting against dictatorships. ** You are absolutely right! Oh wait, Saddam was a dictatorl. =(**</p>
<p>" Wait, so you are saying its Bush's fault we can't find Bin Laden, when he could be HIDING ANYWHERE IN THE MIDDLE EAST (except for Israel)? Puuhleaze, we are doing the best we can. " </p>
<p>Bush admitted that Bin laden is no longer his priority.** And if he was? Then what? You are saying if he was we'd find him? Heck no. With so many people over there who share your views<em>cough</em> Arab Governments <em>cough</em> it would be easy to find a place that would happily hide him from "the great satan"**</p>
<p>"You are a democrat and I have a quote where you said Gays should have no rights at all. What I meant, is that Democrats want a larger, more powerful government"</p>
<p>Its not about what I think, you said Republicans stand for individual rights, which they apparently dont. ** Actually, they do. <a href="http://www.gop.com/media/2004platform.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.gop.com/media/2004platform.pdf</a> read it. Lets see, getting rid of the dicatorship in Iraq gave the people there rights. The Patriot Act applies to terrorists, thus they cannot fall under the same category as law abiding citizens. Are you denying that the Democrats are all for a larger, more invasive government?**</p>
<p>U.S. State Department
Says New Testament
Is 'Anti-Semitic'?</p>
<p>Three passages excerpted</p>
<p>Article Written By Rev. Ted Pike
9-13-5</p>
<p>IS THE NEW TESTAMENT "HATE LITERATURE?"
Yet, think about it. Isn't that accusation exactly what Mel Gibson portrayed in "The Passion of the Christ?" Isn't that exactly what the New Testament teaches in passages too numerous to list here? Scripture says evil Jewish leaders, helped by Jews gathered at the Feast of the Passover, collectively pressured the Romans to crucify Christ. </p>
<p>From the Book of Acts alone come powerful indictments of the Jews. "...let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom ye crucified." Acts 2:36. "Men of Israel...this man...you nailed to the cross by the hands of godless men and put him to death." Acts 2:22,3. "Men of Israel...Jesus, the one whom you delivered up...you disowned...put to death the Prince of Peace" Acts 3:12-15. "The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye had put to death by hanging him on a cross." Acts 8:30. </p>
<p>These words - that the Jews killed Jesus - were spoken by the pastor of St. Brigid Church in Gdansk, Poland. If he is anti-Semitic according to the US State Department, then so is the New Testament! So are you as a Bible-believing Christian!</p>
<p>I've seen that my 0wnag3 in this thread was so thorough that:
a) I've proven hardstyle for what he really is, an anti-semite who was raised by racist parents and hides behind biased articles with no sources like a coward. Hey, kind of like how the Palestinians hide behind their children and then complain when their children are killed.
b) I've degraded alien workshops already simple arguments into nothing more that "Lollz" and "True^^"
c) Have provided articles so compelling that it has taken weeks for hardstyle and alien to respond, yet with nothing more than yet ANOTHER unfounded article
d) I've shown how alien cannot argue, but writes lollz and true^^ right after hardstyle posts something</p>
<p>Oh and hardstyle? Just keep telling yourself that Jews own the media and there is a mass zionist conspiracy. All you will need then is a tinfoil hat and you will be fine.</p>
<p>Source: Jerusalem Post
Jerusalem Post, "Israeli firm tossed out of UK fair", 21 September 2005.</p>
<p>Israelis caught selling torture devices at London arms fair</p>
<p>Israeli firm tossed out of UK fair</p>
<p>In the shadow of threats against retired Israeli generals over war crimes, organizers of one of the world's largest international arms fairs in London tossed out an Israeli company for offering stun guns, leg irons and other "weapons of torture."</p>
<p>you truly are clueless. Ever heard of terrorism? Tell me, who's responsible for the lauchings of bombs responsible for killing thousands of Israelis? Yet here you are, spewing hate towards the Israelis with absolutely no proof whatsoever. Are yu justifying Islamic terrorism?</p>
<p>Bennett - 'Aborting All
Black Babies Would
Reduce Crime'
9-30-5</p>
<p>WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Congressional Democrats blasted former Education Secretary William Bennett on Thursday for saying that aborting "every black baby in this country" would reduce the crime rate, and demanded their Republican counterparts do the same. </p>
<p>"This is precisely the kind of insensitive, hurtful and ignorant rhetoric that Americans have grown tired of," said Rep. Bobby Rush, D-Illinois. </p>
<p>Bennett, who held prominent posts in the administrations of former presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush, told a caller to his syndicated radio talk show Wednesday: "If you wanted to reduce crime, you could -- if that were your sole purpose -- you could abort every black baby in this country and your crime rate would go down.</p>
<p>First, you posted that exact same article in two thread. Second, it has nothing to do with the issue being discussed. Now third of all:</p>
<p><em>disclaimer</em> I am completely against aborting every black baby, and I have nothign against black people, white people, asians, and anyone else.</p>
<p>The context in which he said would make him absolutely correct. It is well known that statistically, blacks have much higher crime rates. Now, he doesn't advocate doing such a heinous act as aborting a baby just because they are of a certain race. He simply said it hypothetically, and in that context, he would actually be correct. He never advised for anyone to do so. What he said was equivalent to a "what if...." question.</p>
<p>
[quote]
"On Thursday, Bennett, author of "The Book of Virtues," told FOX News that his remarks were to be viewed from the specter of academia and philosophic argument.</p>
<p>"To put forward a hypothesis, a morally impossible hypothesis, to show why it is morally impossible and reprehensible, seems to me is a standard way of talking about public policy and a standard way of teaching," he said."
[/quote]
</p>
<p>So like hardstyle to take words out of context. Even more like hardstyle...posting a COMPLETELY irrelevant article to the debate.</p>
<p>Yep. He never advocated doing it, he just said it hypothetically. I'm sure he meant it in a hypothetical context. Sadly, we lose our freedom of speech when politically correct liberals like hardstyle whine about every little thing every politican says and take it COMPLETELY out of context. There is one enigma though...why don't they whine about Al Gore telling us how HE INVENTED THE INTRAWEBZORS1!!11!!11! He surely didn't! Damn that selective whining!</p>
<p>DaTurtle, please don't base your opinion of liberals on some anonymous poster who does nothing but post irrelevant articles. </p>
<p>And second, although Al Gore did not invent the internet, he was one of the key lawmakers that pushed forward legislation imperative to the creation of the internet.</p>
<p>Of course I don't base my opinion of liberals on hardstyle. My school is like 99% liberal, so all of my friends are. I don't mind dissenting political views, in fact, America would be much worse of a country without them imo. I just cannot stand how Hardstyle posts such untrue and ridiculous things, blames Bush for EVERYTHING, and brings in irrelevant points in every thread.</p>
<p>Stop being a weak Liberal Helix and stand up for the oppressed!</p>
<p>Only The Passionate Conservative DaTurtle would justify this statement by the Fat Gambling Addicted Moral Beacon William "Ten Gallon Head" Bennett. Then again, Ariel Sharon aborts Palestinian babies with his bombs & Uzi Automatic weapons everyday. Eretz Yisrael!</p>
<p>Bill Bennett - author of (gag) The Book of Virtues - former Secretary of Education, former Drug Czar. </p>
<p>Addressing a caller's suggestion that the "lost revenue from the people who have been aborted in the last 30 years" would be enough to preserve Social Security's solvency, radio host and former Reagan Administration Secretary of Education Bill Bennett dismissed such "far reaching, extensive extrapolations" by declaring that if "you wanted to reduce crimeif that were your sole purpose, you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down". Bennett conceded that aborting all African - American babies "would be an impossible ridiculous, and morally reprehensible thing to do", then added, "but the crime rate would go down". </p>
<p>And people wonder at the criminal negligence; that left people to die in the Superdome - Convention Center and on I-10 (the sick- elderly- infirm) and in the Charity hospitals. This sort of sums up the real mind set of these phonies. Gosh but what would we do, with all the white collar corporate/political criminals practicing genocide - environmental holocausts - and thievery (pension funds - stock manipulations - no -bid contracts - tax subsidies - off shore banking - loophole legislation ) or the serial killers like Dahmer - Bundy (once a member in good standing of the Young Republicans) , John Gacy, Charlie Manson etc. Sad thing is, Bennett just voices - what a lot of people; posing as such tolerant - unbiased people, really feel (let's get real) - the true test being to note the level of their "tolerance" when it's announced that a minority housing development will be built in their gated enclaves - resort areas - or Currier and Ives postcard towns. </p>