<p>I've seen this posted before on CC, and its kind of unnerving that Tufts is so far down on the list, especially after I was told how great Tufts is for getting kids into good grad schools. Anybody know why its so low?</p>
<p>It’s only law, business, and med schools. Many students at Tufts either go straight into the work force or go to some other graduate program that is not one of those three types. Also, there are probably relatively few going to business school considering the lack of an undergrad business program. Besides that, I think many Tufts students who choose to pursue medicine end up going to the Tufts School of Medicine due to the early acceptance and other reasons. This ranking is fairly worthless, imo.</p>
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here are the schools they look at:
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<p>interesting. they left out a lot of great grad schools.</p>
<p>you cant really look at this based on numbers of students going to these grad schools (the “Feeder Score”)… esp when they are leaving out a bunch of great ones. </p>
<p>a more accurate way to rank schools would be on % accepted out of those that applied… because ya, as stated above, other schools such as an ivy/jhu would more likely have more students going/applying to grad school than tufts/others</p>
<p>I’d be interested to see how those rankings shake out if they counted accepted students out of total applicants instead of total graduating students, if they included more than three types of grad school (I imagine a large number of Tufts grad students go to public policy and government programs), if they found some way to counteract systematic reporting error (which, looking at their methodology, they haven’t), and if they used more than five grad schools per area.
For the [2006-2007</a> school year](<a href=“Homepage | AS&E Students”>Homepage | AS&E Students), nearly 85% of Tufts seniors and alums who applied to law school were accepted for admission, with students in that cohort attending literally ALL of the [top</a> 30 law schools as ranked by US News and World Report](<a href=“http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/rankings/page+1]top”>http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/rankings/page+1) except for the University of Alabama (to which no one applied) as well as many others besides.</p>
<p>I was aware of that handy chart because I’m strongly considering law school, and I couldn’t quickly and easily find numbers for other major professions. I know that similar tracking numbers are kept for med school applicants, but they’re not posted online, they’re only available through a visit to Student Services. I would be quite shocked if Tufts’ stats for med school weren’t better than their states for law school.</p>
<p>^ That would be more compelling if it were at all coherent.</p>
<p>I actually lol’d.</p>
<p>lol 10char</p>
<p>While it is a narrow slice of graduate programs that they sample, Tufts’ placement seems about right. </p>
<p>Tufts is clustered right in there with Barnard, Grinnell, Bates, Berkeley, Macalester and WUStL. What’s to complain about? It’s better than not having its own link on CC.</p>
<p>whats your problem with tufts?</p>
<p>Besides a few oddities like Morehouse College, where apparently 75% of incoming students got below a 1200 (out of 1600) on the SATS, these are all fine schools and I don’t think anyone’s complaining to be among them. </p>
<p>Saying our placement “seems about right” is correct, if you’re talking about rates of overall placement to these specific 15 schools, in only three subject areas. If that’s what you’re trying to measure, then this does a pretty good job of it (except for reporting methodology - they seem to make no attempt to normalize different rates of reporting at different schools, and just because an alumni didn’t inform his alma mater that he eventually went to business school doesn’t mean he didn’t go). </p>
<p>As has already been discussed, there are a number of flaws in using these rankings to make broader generalizations. </p>
<p>If one tries to uses these rankings as proxies for how likely applicants from each school are to get into any of these 15 grad schools, then we would need total number of students accepted out of total number of students who applied, not total number of students at all, as the report uses. This would correct for clustering of students with similar interests at different schools. For example, did you notice that technical and engineering schools did quite poorly on these rankings? People who go to school for engineering are unlikely to ever apply to med school or law school in the first place. Students at Tufts are unlikely to apply to business school. That doesn’t necessarily mean that law applicants from RPI or b-school applicants from Tufts are actually less likely to get accepted than someone who went to the New College of Florida.</p>
<p>I don’t get why the early admittance program into tufts med school would be that appealing. I guess some stress would be relieved, but the med school doesn’t seem that great (barely top 50, BU is ranked higher) and tufts med school students graduate with the third most debt…</p>
<p>^ You save a year’s worth of tuition, right? That sounds pretty appealing to me.</p>
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I don’t think that is the case; it isn’t an accelerated program. You apply your sophomore year and start med school after you graduate (a full 8 year program). To skateboarder, getting into any med school is quite difficult these days, regardless of its “rank”…</p>
<p>yeah, probably appealing bc less stress, and more freedom to explore courses you normally would not take, and you do not have to go through the whole med school admissions process (stress + time + money)</p>
<p>The list is for PROFESSIONAL schools, ie only medicine, law, and business, not graduate schools.</p>
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<p>I don’t know if it’s the same for the med school, but you can actually start working on your dental or veterinary degree while still an undergrad through dual degree programs. Also, IIRC, you get reduced tuition for being a double Jumbo in all grad programs except Fletcher.</p>
<p>^ Aw man, I was thinking about getting my MA from Fletcher :P</p>
<p>Also, that list has been circulating around CC for about three years. I wonder if there’s a more up-to-date version available.</p>
<p>Also, it would be useful to know how many students from each school applied to each of these programs, as well as their GPAs, MCATs, LSATs, and GMATs.</p>