<p>you can argue that meal plan four also gives the best value. not considering if you eat most of your meals at john jay for brunch (~$10) or for dinner (~14), if you go by the logic that you need/want 3 meals a day for the entire term, PLAN FOUR gives you the greatest number of points to use for each meal. (3*days in term - meals in plan = meals to use points, points in plan / meals to use points = number of points per meal (pretending that you don't use extra money for off campus food)) BUT the meal plan still assumes that you'll do a great bulk of your eating off campus or with your own money, with the above calculations, because the end points/meal value for any plan is around 2.</p>
<p>just my calculations. check this if you want, but it's also just theoretical. i don't have the actual experience of being an undergrad student, though. but apparently the numbers go with plan four as well.</p>
<p>Does anyone know if there's a huge difference between the Carman single-sex floor and the Carman co-ed floor?
I've been to an all-girls school my entire life, and my parents are concerned about me living on a co-ed floor.
However, I'm worried that the single-sex floor will be less social..</p>
<p>I'm thinking Hartley or wallach because it has a kitchen in the suites. I know it's not a freshmen dorm but what's so bad about it? Btw, is it easy to like heat stuff up and eat it in JJ, as in heating on a fry pan not a microwave? Oh yeh do you have a fridge in ur room at JJ?</p>
<p>I think I'm going for a Carmen on a co-ed floor and a single in JJ as my second choice. I can't say that I've been shy in my high school life, but I definitely haven't socialized as much as I have wanted to. Definitely hoping to change that in college.</p>
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something they don't tell you (at least i dont remember knowing) is that some of the doubles in JJ are walkthrough doubles -- so essentially you have a roommate while still having a single. Having known that I would have tried for a roommate in JJ because I like my JJ single, but having a roommate might have been kinda fun i suppose. Though, just as a warning, not all doubles are walkthrough -- there are 3 doubles on each floor and 2 are walk through.
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<p>I would suggest against a JJ walk thorough. Its just an annoyance more than anything. You'r roommate will just be walking through ur room or vice versa if you have the inner room and you wont interact like true college roommates. </p>
<p>Also, you should check out the columbia housing website for floor plans which should give you an idea of the layout of the rooms. If you need help reading them ask.</p>
<p>i know this is a stupid question, but i'm just looking for some quantification - how often does carman party, and how often does jj?
i'm a bit afraid that if i choose carman, i won't have time to do any work. is that fear baseless?</p>
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<p>As a freshman u dont need a kitchen since you have a meal plan and dining points so you shouldnt really need to make anything yourself. Its impossible to "heat stuff up" in JJ since there is no stove. The kitchenette is just a sink and a microwave but again you have the dining hall and JJ's (where u can use ur points) in the buliding so you really dont need to make anything urself. And yes, fridge is pretty important....dont limit urself to one of those small ones...get at least a 4.0 cu ft fridge....i know its not allowed but noone cares and noone checks.</p>
<p>The fear that if you pick Carman you won't do your work is baseless. It's Columbia...and in my experience/observation people work...too much sometimes. I live in Carman. Shraf is right. You don't need a kitchen freshman year. The meal plan they make you go on is enough. You're spending like 4,000 dollars on it, might as well use it. Fridge seems to depend. All I have in my fridge is my eye mask and left over pasta and soy milk, so I disagree that everyone needs a big fridge. A lot of my friends have empty fridges.</p>
<p>The fridge isnt that important freshman year, but trust me later on when you dont have a meal plan it will come in very handy and its not like you will be buying a new fridge every year so might as well buy a big one from the beginning....unless of course u have to rent one because you live really far away....then you have no choice whether it is big or not since they are all small.</p>