Anyone else have a child who is having a hard time making the transition?

<p>“mine would choose social and sports, academics is 3rd”</p>

<p>Mine too. We went though mourning varsity sports when we knew he wouldn’t find a sport+academics match, but he plays soccer, so club sports turned out perfectly. </p>

<p>Interestingly enough, while soccer has been his LIFE since about age 5, club soccer is giving him a chance to expand his second love, “b boy” ( break) dancing. So now academics is fourth…</p>

<p>Not sure what to make of the whole “pretty girl thing”. Although son’s school is crawling with “hot” girls, he doesn’t seem to prioritize that (or maybe he knows it’s wise not to talk about it). I’m glad because I would have a hard time with that “hot” distinction.</p>

<p>What is “club” sports? Is that like intramurals? </p>

<p>I wouldn’t mind if he did some of that if/when football is over. However, I don’t know if he would participate if he is living at home. The Univ he would attend is only a 20-25 minutes drive. I’ll only consider him living there is he is in football and has to be there at all odd hours. Otherwise he’ll live home and work part-time like his brother. I would love to see him involved though. I’m hoping he picks up baskeketball or volleyball wherever he is (he can do it off season if he’s still in fball)</p>

<p>Club teams compete with other regional club teams. They can be a pretty big deal depending on the sport, school, and region. Soccer, rugby, water polo are pretty big, especially at schools without varsity teams.</p>

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<p>Great trip! We saw son, talked about concerns, and freshman son and senior daughter got to see each other! I was reassured.</p>

<p>Hopefully among other things, here’s what freshman son ahared about the “party train” with senior D; ( he was amazed that his NOT top ten school had so much in common with hers.)</p>

<p>Alcohol to attract the girls, the girls to attract the guys, and all this attracts the police. The trick is to leave the party before the police arrive. Being the designated driver adds an additional “fun” perspective. Being the black guys leaving the party also adds an additional perspective. Black guys leaving the party distracts the police. Don’t run. Go back to the party. Someone else will distract them.</p>

<p>I also learned he is the only black engineering student in the freshman class.</p>

<p>Wow I’m not sure what to say on this thread anymore. Seriously, you are combing the stands looking for “pretty” “hot” girls and you can’t find one?? That is what is the worry here? That and whether your son can get past injuries to get back on the field again so you can enjoy rooting from the stands? </p>

<p>No words…</p>

<p>Shrinkrap, I’m so glad you got to see your S and get some peace of mind. My older D visited D2 this weekend, and I’m hoping they had some of the same conversations - about the things at college that do seem to be the same everywhere. I know D2 has been comparing her experience against some kind of fantasy version of her sister’s, which isn’t completely true. Part of this is temperament: D1 just doesn’t tend to talk about the negatives very much, is the sort who finds that a waste of time. D2 will have to learn to break her habit of wallowing in complaints (which arises out of a deeply idealistic nature).</p>

<p>I think this is a time when peers and siblings can be immensely helpful, definitely can put things into perspective. Sometimes not, but I think usually a benefit. Kids who are unhappy (really anyone) generally think that they are alone in their feelings.</p>

<p>I will be going out there in a couple of weeks, too. I am thrilled I will get a chance to see for myself how she really is, and what kind of vibe I get from seeing her at school. I’m quite sure that I will know that she is in the right place and steadily moving toward more of a comfort zone.</p>

<p>I just wanted to update folks here -D2 and I have had several really wonderful conversations this week, including a long Skype call that we both really enjoyed. She is much better, had a wonderful time with her sister (and her sister did, too), and is finding more and more “good stuff” in her life all around.</p>

<p>She herself used the expressions “adjustment” and “transition,” in talking about her own first several weeks of college as well as others’. She definitely understands the perspective that this is a process that everyone goes through, and that circumstances, as well as temperament, make for a large spectrum of experiences. Sometimes people have made the wrong choice, or at least feel disillusioned, but also sometimes they just have to “get over” their own issues.</p>

<p>In short, on the positive side, she loves her classes and the work she is doing. She is getting into the City and having wonderful experiences there (one benefit of her scholarship is that we agreed she could have more money to enjoy NYC). She has some wonderful friends, and some peers whom she really admires. She is very happy with the professors, too. Generally she likes the people and is meeting new ones every day.</p>

<p>She still has the “negatives” of many frustrations with the administrative side to the school - what she sees as disorganization, inefficiency, confusing systems that she feels could be so much better. She feels they should provide more services to students - better shuttle buses, more programmed activities for residents, more reliable library and improved food. She still has a serious problem with her roommate, but they have a silent truce at this point. She’s not sure the student body focuses enough on activities she has the most interest in (such as there not being an a capella group; there’s a little too much reliance on Greek life and sports for socializing, in her opinion).</p>

<p>It’s clear to me that while “quality of life” has its importance, she understands that her complaints are not all that unusual, and that many of them pertain to getting used to college life anywhere. I also think it’s sinking in that she needs to make her own fun there - find the people who are doing what she likes, make activities happen herself if no one else will. This are all very common “transition” issues that could happen at any school.</p>

<p>In fact, she told me of kids at her college, and of friends from HS, who are having a variety of “transition troubles,” and she understands that it can take a while. Some kids are shy. Some kids are fussy and stubborn. Some kids are homesick and slow to get involved. Some kids are unconventional, and it takes a while for them to fit in. Some are just surprised that it’s hard to do and that stops them in their tracks for a bit.</p>

<p>Her moods are completely normal again - even for a moody kid - and she’s able to summon the drive to get her adjustment on track. She is willing to give this the time, especially since she has found that time has brought improvements.</p>

<p>I’ll update again after our weekend together next week; I know she still has grave disappointments about the school, and there is a small chance she has considered transferring and still might. But I do think she has found the balance, and her “upward trend” will much more likely lead to appreciating this school more and more. </p>

<p>She said some of the most important factors in her feeling better has been allowing herself to talk to her HS friends, accepting the fact that she is more homesick than she thought she’d be, that this would take longer than she thought. She’s got a plan now, and she can sense the rewards that are coming. I’m still sad that it took all those weeks of not seeing this, of being so scared and frustrated, but sometimes I know we have to go through those hard times to get to a better place.</p>

<p>Good luck to everyone - and I hope this is helpful to anyone else in this situation.</p>

<p>abasket, I was taken aback too. Having read the very thoughtful posts of concern.</p>

<p>EmmyBet- So happy your d is doing better. Her intellect is conquering her emotions and helping her see the positives and negatives more clearly and the path she can take to improve her life. If she does end up transferring (which is probably unlikely), at least it will be with a clear head and realistic expectations.</p>

<p>Emmybet: I’m glad to hear that your D is felling better about things. I think that a lot of freshmen are surprised at how homesick they feel. My D has had an easy adjustment to college, but she has really looked forward to trips home and parent’s weekend. Has your D considered trying to start an acapella group?</p>

<p>Thanks for the good wishes! </p>

<p>I myself thought how great it would be if she started an a capella group, and I wouldn’t be surprised if she and her friends do. One thing I haven’t done, though, is suggest too many of these things. Mostly I’ve just urged her to work on the more “internal” issues: getting sleep, taking it one step at a time, finding ways to relax and enjoy herself, finding people for support, etc. I felt that to tell a 6-week-old freshman that she should be responsible for fixing the external things, too (like starting a group, or petitioning for more shuttle service) could have made her blow a gasket.</p>

<p>But we have talked in a general way about how students can affect change, and I’ve said I hope the residential students can work together to make positive changes if they are needed (as they are at all campuses). I think she can infer that she could be one of those people once she’s settled in more (which I’m sensing now). I’m glad I haven’t nagged or suggested too much; for a while we came dangerously close to her being completely overwhelmed by how hard it was to make her life work there, and it was important that she didn’t see me as just one more irritant.</p>

<p>I’m not taking issue with you momjr - I’m just telling our story as food for thought.</p>

<p>njfootballmom - I have been reading this thread becasue my D has also had some transition issues - all seemed find during the first month but when the honeymoon was over she began to question every decision. Reading between the lines, it seems as if he is dissappointed in his football status AND the school is just not a good fit for him. The social aspect is very important to many kids and it is undervalued by many parents on this board. An unhappy kid is not necessasarily a successful kid. I would recommend a transfer to a school that offers club football. These are typically the bigger schools that have enough kids to field competitive club and intramural teams. Since there is a wide cross section of kids that attend the larger schools, he is bound to find a group that he can relate to. These schools also have a wide variety of majors to consider unlike the smaller schools that are more limited. I am always amazed at how the bigger state flagship schools are “slammed” on these boards when they are really a good fit for many kids. The larger schools have more facilities, more alumni (for networking) and more of just about everything…which is not a bad thing for a kid that wants to try different things.</p>

<p>My son’s sport is only a club sport at his school (a small LAC) and he couldn’t be happier about that. There is no pressure - he can chose to miss practice whenever he wants and it’s fun! They have meets almost every weekend in spring and fall and often compete against schools who teams aren’t club. They also do a lot of things together - like a team dinner once a week and have a party at one of the campus houses every weekend. The team is co-ed which makes it even more fun. ;)</p>

<p>I remember one of my sons , now 24 , called sobbing and said , " Mom , I hate it here ! I want to go home ! " Flashback to same message from sleep-over camp when he was 8 . He was fine a few days later . Calls like that are so RAW ! I almost had a panic attack !</p>

<p>njfootball - I think you should have a discussion about how “shallow” it is to be so concerned about “hot” girls.</p>

<p>My son is also having a hard transition. I had a horrible first semester in undergrad, but stuck it out and loved all my years there (5 total), so hoping that will also be the case with him. But I’m losing sleep over this too and I want to rush in and save him, but I know that he’s a grown man and I would be robbing him of developing any kind of real life skills if I do that. It’s really hard to watch our kids go through any kind of emotional pain.</p>

<p>He was really happy there the first month and now…I don’t know…we’ll see…the word “transfer” has come up. He’s not into the party scene, sports, but is social and loves to hang out with big groups of other more pensive kids. He’s into indie music and is more of a hipster/artsy kid -but also incredibly smart (spoken like a true mother ;)). He’s finding it hard to find others that are like him although there are some that he’s hanging out with from his previous HS. He’s wanting to get into different housing for next year where they students are a much more like him. He won’t know whether he’ll get into that housing until early December, and if he gets into that then he could stay all the remaining years there. </p>

<p>I am of course retracing our steps, wondering why he shot down Wesleyan, Oberlin, and Haverford…why, oh why… Instead his college list was mostly schools that were similar to where he is now attending. He’s always been in similar schools since elementary, middle, HS and I think the decision to attend where he is now is mainly due to that’s what he knew. I had a strong hunch that he would be better off at the schools I mentioned above, but he shot them all down and mostly due to dumb reasons such as the name, or some other rediculous 18 year old observation. I know this isn’t my fault that he’s now struggling, but it certainly brings up a lot of, “why didn’t I…”. When in fact, he made his own decisions and this really isn’t about me. Oh, anywho, I know this too shall passs, but I am definitely right there with you.</p>

<p>It’s so easy to second guess yourself - truth is, for many situations, you can’t know FOR SURE how life is at a school until you are there. Naturally, all schools put their best foot forward on visit days, in brochures, through their tour guides, etc. But, the whole process of kids making their “nest” at a whole new place - often will all new people - can take time. We ask them to get used to so many things - a new town, new daily schedule and time management, new friends, new clubs, living with a stranger (roommate), budgeting their time and money, controlling their freedom - the list goes on and on! Some do it well and easily. Some need more time. So, I think you have to give it some time - at the very least a semester. More reasonably to me, a year. While you have to look ahead with some tentative plans/ideas for possible change, you also have to remain focussed on what is current - the current living situation, the current classload - the tuition payment that has already been paid! </p>

<p>In the midst of all our negative conversations with my son, I learned to always try and ask the question “ok, now tell me ONE positive thing” - even if it was that roommate was leaving for the weekend so he would get the room alone or that he managed to scarf a couple of brownies out of the cafeteria for a late night snack. Small steps, simple pleasures.</p>

<p>So, things have settled down (in my mind at least). Son still finds the school quite boring, is still doing poorly in Spanish. </p>

<p>He had ear surgery and today I saw it for the first time. Honestly I don’t think it worked. It does not look “normal” and I think it is filled up again. (ear hematoma, aka cauliflower ear) He is not overly concerned, although he did look at it more closely and agrees it might be filling up again. (stitches came out Thurs.) He’ll keep an eye on it and probably follow up with dr. He still wants to transfer, so he will have to explore that. I explained he has to keep grades up. He is doing great in Eng and if he drops Spanish he will get Econ tutor to get that one up higher. I’d rather he drop Span and get the best grades he can in the other classes, than sturggle with Span and let the others slip too. It might be too late to catch up the Span. If he transfers, the school he is going to doesn’t require a lang. Haven’t told him that though, so it doesn’t color is decision.</p>

<p>I really am amazed at those who do not understand that is social life is important to him. It is a big part of college and part of the reason I wanted him to go away, to expand his horizons. Sure it’s a bit shallow to like pretty girls better, but it’s not as though he ignores the rest of them. He is very popular with many types of people. Truth is, he is an attractive 18 year old with a good personality. Is it not normal for him to want an attractive girl? I did not “comb the stands” looking for girls, I watched the game. It was in the student center where there was a pile of them lined up for some sorority thing that I noticed. He had mentioned it, so I was looking to see if he was being picky.</p>

<p>Some people go to college and they are focused solely on the classroom. Others want the whole experience and if that means dating, athletics, and getting an education that is fine with me. As long as the schoolwork gets done I don’t care if he likes pretty girls. I don’t think I need to “talk” to him specifically about it, I’m sure we’ve discussed it from time to time. Like I said, he has many girl “friends” so he knows looks aren’t everything. </p>

<p>Finally, I don’t think his is an adjustment problem. I believe it just isn’t the right fit. He went up Aug 13 and now it’s 2 months later and he still doesn’t like it. I think I prefer that it is not the right fit that adjustment issue. He is not unhappy or sad, it’s just not for him. I would feel worse if I thought he was miserable.</p>

<p>Thank you to those who were understanding and supportive. I think the criticisms of us as shallow are unfair. To each his own.</p>

<p>Oh yes, Any thoughts on Spring transfer vs Fall transfer? pros or cons?</p>

<p>njmom - I like your idea of a rational dissatisfaction rather than an adjustment problem. I think if he is that sure he is in the wrong fit and he can transfer right away - and all of the academic and financial details line up to your satisfaction - he might as well get going. I know lots of kids who have done that, and they were very glad to get on with their lives in a better place.</p>

<p>I am going to visit my D this weekend. Currently she is overwhelmed and unhappy again - still, in many ways - and I will see for myself if she truly is at a bad fit or just having her own issues with college in general. If she has a “rational” justification for being dissatisfied with her life there (for whatever reasons), we’ll start talking about transferring. If I think she would just take her unhappiness with her, or if I think she’d just find new things to be unhappy with, then we’ll focus more on building connections and fixing her attitude and situation at this school.</p>

<p>My general feeling is that she either will decide the downsides of this school are worth making a change, or that the upsides are worth sticking out the 4 years, in which case she’ll either take steps to address the downsides or learn to work around them (by getting off campus more, doing extra study abroad, etc.). She needs a bit more time and a bit more maturity to figure out those choices. I’m very glad that she does have the strong motivation to be doing this, going to college, facing these challenges and working toward her future. I wish she saw all that as strong evidence that she is “successful.” But I have always known that she is an incredibly idealistic person and reality often clashes with her image of how things (and she herself) “should” be.</p>

<p>Aww, EB- I am so sorry. Glad you have the opportunity to figure out the category in which the dissatisfaction(s) lie. Good luck.</p>