<p>This is my dilema. 780m, 640cr, 650w.......and here it goes- 3.1 gpa.</p>
<p>I have the opposite problem; I have a high GPA but relatively low SATs. (670M, 670CR, 590WR(ouch))</p>
<p>thats better than me..when college see you report at leat you gpa will be stellar.</p>
<p>I've got 2200 SATs but 3.73 (9-11) and 3.6 (10-11).</p>
<p>murasaki w'dya mean by 9-11 and 10-11.. are those grades?
i got 2040 on my first attempt and 3.75 GPA...</p>
<p>They're grades.</p>
<p>i got a 2250 on my first try. i have a b+ average.</p>
<p>My GPA and PSAT scores are almost exactly proportionate. 224 on a scale of 240 is equal to 3.73 on a scale of 4, and I have a 3.75. I think that if your GPA is significantly higher than your SAT/PSAT then your grades are inflated. Likewise if your GPA is significantly lower then your grades are deflated (this is all assuming the students work diligently).
It makes sense. The SAT is universal and everyone takes an equal level-of-difficulty version that covers material everyone, especially those 4.0 GPAers out there, should understand. </p>
<p>The only other viable option is that the schoolwork at different schools is geared differently. I can see people getting disproportionate GPAs [to SATs] if their schoolwork is more of a busy-work kind of thing where if you do the work then you get a good grade. That's how my last school was, but where I am at now is very well balanced and I think that tells in my GPA-(P)SAT relationship.</p>
<p>Obviously many will claim that those with mid-range GPAs and high SATs are simply lazy. I don't think that has a lot of common sense in it, though, because I don't see too many lazy people suddenly working their butts off at 8 in the morning on a 4+ hr. test. I think just doing that would, in fact, qualify them as not lazy.</p>
<p>is it better to go to a school with grade deflation and higher SAT's or go to a school where you have great GPA's but low-mediocre SAT's?</p>
<p>by better, i mean is it more acceptable.</p>
<p>I would say high sats and a mediocre GPA, because adcoms are going to understand that schools vary in grading practices. Unfortunately, the CEEB doesn't. Look at it this way: if a person can get good grades, he should be able to do well on the SAT. After all, what material is it that a person is getting those good school grades on if not math, reading, and english? If somebody cannot get a good grade on reading comprehension then somebody sure as heck shouldn't be doing good in classes like history and english. Am I right?</p>
<p>Actually, I would argue that SATs and GPA are not directly proportionate at all. I go to a school with the most rigorous curriculum around (a public magnet), yet I still achieve a GPA of a 94, or 3.9. Somehow I still got a 1930 on the SAT, although granted had my Writing score not been so awful it would've been over 2000 to say the least.</p>
<p>My school doesn't inflate grades at all; we all work our butts off to earn high marks.</p>
<p>I'm not sure. I think anyone who gets a high GPA can get an excellent score with the right prep. I hav a 3.98(becoming a senior next year) and took all APs junior year. I have the second highest weighted GPA in my school. I had a decent PSAT scores (219) but I did well on my SAT (2280= 680CR, 800M, 800W). Work hard and you'll all get the scores you need.</p>
<p>I think it really has more to do with the school you attend. Regional college adreps are aware of the difficulty of the high schools they visit, or they get profiles that can allow them to judge the difficulty of the curriculum and the competitiveness both within the school and with other schools in the area. At some schools at 3.5 is a great gpa, at others, not so great. Also, rank can be skewed depending on the overall competiveness of the students at the school. </p>
<p>As for scores vrs gpa... Some kids are really hard workers but not great test takers, and hopefully colleges recognize that and look at the whole app. That may be an unrealistic hope at the more numbers driven schools. In those cases, you better have both high scores, gpa and rank.</p>
<p>Personally, my older S had great test scores, but his gpa was around a 3.3 from a competitive private hs. The adreps that he spoke with were well aware that a 3.3 from his school was a great gpa (I don't think anyone ever makes straight a's). He got in wherever he applied. But, he didn't apply to any ivy's, so sorry, I can't help you there! </p>
<p>Good luck to all of you 2007 grads. You will all do fine in the app process, it truly seems alot scarier that it is!!</p>
<p>I'm pretty sure a 94 composite average does not come to a 3.9 UW GPA. But maybe I'm wrong, I'm not exactly sure about the conversion process.</p>
<p>How can your GPA and SAT scores not be proportionate AT ALL? How do you get good grades without using the basic stuff that is on the SAT? It's like being a writer who doesn't know all of the alphabet</p>
<p>i must agree
no matter how people claim the sat is worthless, biased, skewed, whatever (i mostly agree), smart people will do better on it than (i realize it's politically incorrect to say this, but) dumb people
a person who gets a 2400 on the sat can't help but be at least reasonably competant, literate, and mathematically apt</p>
<p>logically, that makes sense. i do believe thats why the SAT's are valued. a standard test to show who exactly stands out as "reasonably competant, literate, and mathematically apt"...</p>
<p>For real. I mean, people may say the SAT is useless, but the fact is, a guy that can read better/faster will probably do better on CR. A guy that knows his math will do better than a guy that can't add on the math section. And a grammar teacher should do better on writing than an average 12-year-old.</p>
<p>I read in the Yale website that a high GPA can make up for a low Standarized test score, but it is 'unlikely' that a high standarized test score could make up for a low GPA.
grr. sucks for me.</p>
<p>^ me too. this really sucks</p>
<p>FYI, average GPA at my school is a 3.5 and average SAT scores are at 1320/1600 or right around 2000/2400. According the scales given, my school deflates grades.</p>