<p>da avg gpa in ma skoo iz 3.75 ya fel meh?</p>
<p>^ avg. gpa at my school is around 3.4. my school deflates too i think. only the genious asain kids get 4.3's and such...and STILL don't get into harvard..lol. but our avg. SAT is around 1400 (old).</p>
<p>I really think that the SATs should be valued more. Why should a high GPA justify a low SAT? There is obviously something wrong there. It would just mean that the individual was unable to do basic math quickly and accurately. In my opinion, the SAT should be made harder to truly test knowledge and ability and be worth more than GPA. Getting a high score on the current sat should be worth less than getting a high gpa, but I feel that it should be a huge red flag if a person with a high gpa gets a low sat. The SAT is a great equalizer. GPA is highly subjective from school to school. We need an objective test like the SAT (well without the essay it would be objective).</p>
<p>SAT is an equalizer but for a lot of schools students are supposed to excel in their environment period--even if those environments are unequal, they want you to play with the cards your dealt. That's why they look at rank as well, I imagine.</p>
<p>I hate to say this, but some of the least intelligent people I know have great GPAs and low SAT scores..they work like crazy, though, and deserve their good grades. Anyone who studies for hours for tests deserves to do well on them.</p>
<p>But I definitely think it's true that naturally smarter people do better on the SAT, even if they don't work hard in school.</p>
<p>Which group of people deserves admittance to top colleges, the smart slackers or the hard workers? That's a question to be debated..</p>
<p>You seem to forget that at top colleges, you don't necessarily have to make that choice. Why choose between smart slackers and potential dumb hard workers when you can choose between smart slackers and tons of smart hard workers? It doesn't have to come down to high GPA/low SAT vs low GPA high SAT cuz there are tons of kids with high marks in both.</p>
<p>However, if it came down to it, I'd need some confirmation that the smart slackers will change their ways. What good is a smart slacker if they know what to do, but make poor grades and bring down averages?</p>
<p>I think GPA and the SAT should both be thrown out. Like england and other nations, we should all sit for national board exams that test our skills in our desired subjects. For example the maths and sciences if we want to go into engineering. A kid in our school has a C+ GPA in all honours courses but a 2200+ SAT. Hard workers achieve much more than smart slackers and I have personal examples to support that with</p>
<p>leah and Murasaki make great points...
a high GPA is usually a reflection of your school work throughout the year while the SAT score is what you do in those 4 hours so i feel that somebody whoz a good test taker will do well on the SAT even if he isnt very intelligent or anything..
so i guess the 4.0 GPA's and low SAT score peopler bad test takers who werent able to give it their best shot during those 4 hours...</p>
<p>bad SAT score: 1820
mediocre GPA (not sure how much)</p>
<p>SAT score and GPA are /usually/ correlated because students with a high GPA are usually A.) smart and B.) hardworking thus are naturally well prepared for the test and probably did a significant amount of prep. But, they aren't always - a very smart, hardworking person might be a poor test taker, for example, or might have been very nervous or sick. A kid who is a slacker in school and never turns in homework may be a genius on the inside, and ace the exam. </p>
<p>My friend has a 3.14 cumulative GPA (2.8 junior year), but scored 780 (CR), 640 (M) and 690 (W) on her first try. I am sure her scores in writing especially will improve because she is an amazing author and naturally intuitive about grammar. A case of disproportionate grades and SAT score? Yes. Why? Because she's lazy. So, the people who say that the marks will always correlate are dumb beyond belief. Haha.</p>
<p>MissSuperFantastic has hit the nail on the head so to say...</p>
<p>Since when are the exceptions the main criteria for judging? We get rid of the outliers such as the lazy smart kids because they are not a significant number. 9 times out of 10 smart kids aren't lazy that's why they are smart. They may not kill themeselves to get super good grades in school, but there's a difference between being lazy and working yourself to the bone.</p>
<p>The bad test taker option is stupid. Everybody with a goal gets nervous. I was so nervous about being back in the big hallwayed, white-washed brick public school setting that it took me 2 official tests just to feel comfortable ENOUGH to focus in that atmosphere. If you're bad at taking tests then do it over and over until you get good. Everyone is bad at something, but one doesn't just give up and say, "I'm bad at it." That's a loser's attitude.</p>
<p>Want to see a shocker?</p>
<p>CR: 760
Writing: 750
Math: 550</p>
<p>GPA: 2.8</p>
<p>MissSuperFantastic is saying that they don't always correlate, not that they never do. Exceptions aren't being made the judging criteria, they're just being pointed out.</p>
<p>I didn't exactly mean to start a firestorm.</p>
<p>To tell you the truth, I did 0 prep for 2 out of 3 sections of the SAT, and the class I took for CR was useless.</p>
<p>Happy? That's why I'm prepping over the summer; my school & work leave very little time for test prep.</p>
<p>I have a great GPA (97/98), yet my SAT scores are 720 Math, 630 Writing and 540 Reading(AAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!???!!!!). It really doesn't make sense, because I've been in advanced lit classes for years (just finished AP lit) but I did so badly on the SATs. I don't like the SATs, because it really doesn't grade how smart you are. I have a tip for people who don't take AP or A classes. Since I've moved up into advanced math classes, my score on math went from a 600 on the PSAT to a 720 on the real thing. I didn't take any SAT course. Take challenging courses, receive a weighted GPA (if your school does that) and you might even get a really good score on the SAT.</p>
<p>My GPA's is like a 3.04 and my SAT is 2020= 760m 620cr 640w</p>
<p>The sad part is that I actually try in school. I don't understand how people get A's so easily</p>
<p>It varies from school to school, and how people do in school also varies, but results are still standard.</p>
<p>But really, even if SATs don't totally measure smarts, as a whole, smarter people will do better, even if there are exceptions.</p>
<p>^ me neither..lol. only like small percentage at my school get 4.0+.lol...mostly asain geniouses..no offense. 28% have 3.6 and above, 22% have 3.2 and above, 24% have 2.9 and above.</p>
<p>its pretty much impossible to get above a 3.8 at my school, atleast if you're an ib student. it gets to the point that the ib coordinator makes sure no one has a 4.0 on purpose.so in my opinion standardized test and gpa should be weighed equally, because unlike gpa, the Sat is standardized and everyone takes it while your gpa varies depending on on you're coursework,deflation,inflation etc..</p>