<p>wow--that's crazy..at my school the valedictorian has to have at least a 5.3 GPA taking all AP classes junior and senior year and can never have gotten a B throughout the entirety of high school..</p>
<p>well i think were talking about unweighted, not weighted.</p>
<p>^ yea..on a weighted scale at my school, the val usually has about a 4.6 or so. unweighted...more like a 3.99.lol</p>
<p>Unweighted..4.0 definitely.</p>
<p>No Bs are acceptable for the valedictorian at my school..kind of sad. You simply can't be anything less than perfect. lol</p>
<p>this is so weird. I would think that college will your sat score more than your gpa. Isn't SAT a national test and should be fair (i think), everybody have the same chance. However your grade kind of depend on your school. If it's in the urban area or something or may be a school may have a tough teacher and grade harder than other school.</p>
<p>That's what rank-in-class/estimation is for.</p>
<p>I'm in the same situation as the OP- low GPA and high SAT. And by low GPA I don't mean 3.75 UW, I mean 3.0. It sounds arrogant, but in elementary and middle school I just didn't ever need to study, things just came to me naturally and so I did literally no studying and made almost straight A's. I learned to just rely on my smarts and never developed the good work habits needed to succeed in high school. So in 9th and 10th grade I did horribly, half C's in 9th grade and only one A, and 2 D's, a C and the rest B's in 10th grade. I just didn't have the motivation or skills to study or do homework, and I paid for it. I would think that my 11th grade GPA probably correlates to my 2200 SAT since I finally "got it" and actually learned to work hard, but definitely not my overall GPA. People whine all the time about worries of rejection with a 3.9 GPA and 2000 SAT's, but that's the better situation because you can redo your SAT but not your GPA.</p>
<p>^Agreed (10 char)</p>
<p>ur right. u cant redo gpa. which really sucks. but ive learned to love myself just the way i am. im glad that i dont have to worry about applyin to the ivy's and waiting with anticipation., beacuse ino that i wont get in...lol.</p>
<p>All those people who have crappy GPAs and high SATs in high school need to realize this: If such people were truly smart, they would try in school. When I was a freshman I was in the bottom 50% of my class and realized it would take me nowhere. What did I do? I worked hard and took hard classes and now I'm in the top 10% of my class. Don't think I'm not like any of you guys, I scored a 1510 on the 1600 scale. The stupidest people in high school are the ones who have potential and can't pull themselves together when they realize that they've f'd up.</p>
<p>the thing is you're making generalizations, you're thinking right away that low gpa automatically means not trying.which is not true.</p>
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All those people who have crappy GPAs and high SATs in high school need to realize this: If such people were truly smart, they would try in school. When I was a freshman I was in the bottom 50% of my class and realized it would take me nowhere. What did I do? I worked hard and took hard classes and now I'm in the top 10% of my class. Don't think I'm not like any of you guys, I scored a 1510 on the 1600 scale. The stupidest people in high school are the ones who have potential and can't pull themselves together when they realize that they've f'd up.
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<p>Nothing personal, but your generalizations are a bit asinine. For example, what of people who endure trying circumstances? Or another example, a guy at my school doesn't try unless he likes the class. He has terrible junior year grades, barely in the top 10%, but he made 1500/1600 and 2150/2200 on his SAT, and a 35 on his ACT. Smart, but just doesn't care. But he doesn't need to pull himself together because his target is a college that he won't get rejected from because his grades are good enough for that particular college. He has the potential, but doesn't use it cause there's no point.</p>
<p>My school has grade inflation in half of the classes and grade deflation in the other half. But how about this for the extreme opposite of the OP's situation...the val of this year's class has a 4.9 GPA and a 1300/2400 on the SAT! That is grade inflation at its finest...</p>
<p>Wow, that sure is some mighty fine grade inflation right there.</p>
<p>if everyone thinks that the test is "worthless, biased, skewed" then they should just get rid of it. right?</p>
<p>There is some extent to which the SAT can't identify things about a student, but I think it's far from worthless--people exaggerate every little flaw of it as if it can't be bypassed by almost any student who trains at it. The fact that it's a coachable and retakable test trumps almost any negative quirk it might have.</p>
<p>i dont know why..but maybe there should be a general formula out there for all schools...or something. grade inflation makes one seem alot smarter than some really may be or grade deflation sometime makes someone feel alot dumber. I think it's all rediculous. just make a basic scale like:</p>
<p>A+ 4.33
A 4.00
A- 3.67
B+ 3.33
B 3.00
B- 2.67
C+ 2.33
C 2.00
C- 1.67 .....SO ON</p>
<p>For evey honors class u get an extra .17 points
for every Ap u get an extree .33 points. </p>
<p>My 2 cents.</p>
<p>any other suggestions?</p>
<p>Even with a standard gpa scoring system, you are still going to have the variations in teaching and grading from school to school. That is why colleges have to look at the overall quality of the students that have come from the hs over time. This is reflected in the high school profile.</p>
<p>And, for those students who were lazy, or only tried hard in the classes they liked, or relied on their sheer intelligence and didn't do the daily grind work, the problem you have had in hs is that you have not developed any study skills or discipline for academics. You may do well on the SAT or ACT, but your issues are not going to go away when you get to college. If anything, they are going to be exacerbated by the fact that you are on your own and don't have anyone riding you to study or make sure that you are taking care of business. The first year is filled with classes that are designed to "weed out" the slackers. These are basically boring and tedious and if you don't learn to take care of your business you will find yourself on the backside of the bell curve. Many brilliant, but lazy kids have found themselves washed out of college because of intro classes.</p>
<p>^ so true. good point. i was jut saying maybe they should internationalize the grading system and that may help a little bit.</p>
<p>^^ That would be a wakeup call. Compared to Japan and most of Europe, our education sucks.</p>