Anyone have the stats?

<p>Does anyone know the percentages of deferred applicants later accepted at HYS?</p>

<p>The Harvard application says that every year, 85-250 deferred applicants are accepted RD.</p>

<p>For S it is about 10%.</p>

<p>My guess, this year, is that between 150 and 200 of the 3000 deferred EA applicants will be admitted. This assumes that - as in the past - EA deferreds are admitted at about the same rate as RD applicants, and that there will be roughly 16,000-17,000 RD applicants. If the number of RD applicants turns out to be smaller, a few more EA deferreds may be admitted.</p>

<p>Yale 14.4%</p>

<p>So getting deferred isn't really the death-bell for getting into HYPSM.</p>

<p>it's not exactly encouraging, either! haha</p>

<p>Harvard has always deferred the bulk of EA applicants, and has flat out rejected very few.</p>

<p>The theory, appafrently, is that they don't want to discourage applicants from thinking it is a dangerous thing to apply early. As it is, Harvard probably loses a few "strategic" early applicants to other schools where the odds of admission are greater. All applicants know that applying early gives you a <em>huge</em> edge wherever you apply, and some hestitate to "waste" their one shot where the odds of admission for top students may be the slimmest.</p>

<p>Applying early doesnt really give people a "huge" edge at HYPSM. It's what, an increase of maybe 5% or so at yale at least, and part of that is just because the majority of the early pool applicants are extremely qualified.</p>

<p>@ harvard, 20% of ea applicants are accepted. but the school says this is a self-selected pool...so who knows really?</p>

<p>At most Ivies - including HYP - those who apply early are admitted at a rate 2-3 times higher (and sometimes more) than RD applicants.</p>

<p>Just think about it: if it was disadvantageous to apply early, why would anybody do it?</p>

<p>In fact, the edge given to early applicants is so great (equal to 100-150 points on your SAT score, according to "The Early Admissions Game" that any guidance counsellor not advising students to apply someplace - ANYPLACE - early should be sued for educational malpractice.</p>

<p>i think that the only reason the data shows that EA applicants get accepted more is because most people who do EA are most qualified...like SoWhatNow said...and there are more people applying RD than EA...that fact alters the proportion and the rate of acceptance....if you really want to decide whether applying EA is better than RD...than you better look at the quality..not the quantity (rate)...of the applicants....IMO...i could be wrong...so don't kill me for sharing my 2 cents</p>

<p>You should read "The Early Admissions Game."</p>

<p>You should read "The Early Admissions Game"</p>

<p>lol...from the looks of it...you find a knack in fighting with people using links and megazines....all freedom-of-press type sources....any way I was just sharing my point of view...because it is unlikely that anyone would know for "sure" what goes on in the admission process...except the adcom...all people can do is data and stat to generalize the trend.......remember "correlation does not mean causation"...</p>

<p>P.S. i'm not saying that applying EA is bad....i'm just saying that I think there are advantages and disadvantages in both EA and RD</p>

<p>EA is just fine ... but I think you'd find it to be less advantageous than ED. For example, a rather marginal legacy or athlete might be taken ED because at least the student is bound to attend the institution. </p>

<p>The HYPSM group attracts so many very high numbered kids, so they're able to be more selective with the numbers they admit. However, other ED colleges who worry more about their numbers have the advantage of being able to stack their classes with stellar numbered candidates. </p>

<p>Let's face it - as great and wonderful as Duke, Dartmouth, and Brown are, they can't yet get a class chock full of 1560+ scorers, like HYPSM can. They like ED to lock in very strong admits who might choose differently were they given a wide range of colleges. For example, a truly superb student whose heart is set on Columbia might apply there early, even though this student could potentially accept an offer from Harvard over Columbia (and there are many reasons why this could happen). Columbia binds the student, and prevents this from happening.</p>

<p>I'm not criticizing EA, because I actually think it's fairer program for students than ED is, but ED gives students more admissions advantages than EA would.</p>

<p>Joey</p>

<p>not applying EA is NOT educational malpractice</p>

<p>the advantage of applying EA: if you get in, incredible relief while everyone else is still flipping out.</p>

<p>Another advantage of EA at Harvard: for the Class of 2009, an EA admit rate of 21% vs, an RD pool admit rate of perhaps 6.5%</p>

<p>Don't tell me the EA pool is THAT much stronger!</p>

<p>Definitely, Byerly. EA admits are traditionally a bit weaker than RD candidates, many of them whom know that their stats are strong enough that they will be accepted anywhere to which they apply.</p>