<p>My physician husband has always stated that it takes a certain personality to be a surgeon and a general surgery residency is very tough and made harder with a bit of hazing towards new residents.His opinion is from his residency experience interacting with surgical residents and in 36 years of practice. I am glad that your future SIL found out early that surgery doesn’t suit him I wish him the best of luck in another residency.</p>
<p>Thanks for your kind words, cbreeze. It’s been a difficult decision for him for sure, but one that I very much respect him for making. </p>
<p>As you can tell from the fact that I started this thread last year, I very much thrive on information and expectations and there is a good deal of that out there for 4th year med students going through Match. There is NOT that much, however, that I can find about changing specialities and such, though I do understand that it happens. And DD and FSIL have talked to quite a few people who should know about such things, and apparently they have been encouraging to them. I am walking a bit of a tightrope, however…don’t want to ask too many questions or anything. Hooo boy, life is an adventure, right? :)</p>
<p>The first year of residency is the hardest of medical training. The responsibilities are so much greater than as a student and there is still a huge amount of learning to be done, regardless of the specialty. </p>
<p>Anesthesiology is fun- the internist of the OR (and pediatrician, ob-gyn et al- I remember those oral boards, can’t punt like in the real world)- hope your future son-in-law enjoys it. I still remember being given a break to eat a nice hospital cafeteria Thanksgiving dinner during a many hours long case in residency. Anesthesiologists spend 12 months on off service rotations- your S-in-L will have spent his doing this surgical year. I did a lot of pediatrics as well as internal medicine- including appropriate subspecialties- by choice. Hopefully he will enjoy this different aspect of medicine (I never wanted to be a surgeon, enjoy the fast pace, pharmacology and physiology instead of the anatomy).</p>
<p>PS- learn the difference between a CRNA (certified registered nurse anesthetist) and an anesthesiologist. In Britain “anesthetists” are physicians but in the US an anesthetist is a nurse.</p>
<p>Thanks for the info, Wis75. I hope he enjoys it as well. </p>
<p>We are indeed hoping that this year of surgical residency will count toward his “off service rotations”, but he may have to start all over again if a PGY2 spot in the anesthesiology program does not open up. He is certainly willing to do that if he has to. First, of course, he has to be accepted into the program.</p>
<p>My relative is a podiatry student who will also have her fingers crossed that she will be placed for a residency (not all students receive ANY placement). She’s been busy going around the country doing interviews and shadowing and rotations. It would be wonderful if she can end up anywhere near relatives or loved ones or anywhere! We are hoping for her!</p>
<p>churchmusicmom: My D is a first-year resident in family medicine. She wanted to be a surgeon at one time, so I used to read quite a bit about the field. I believe I read that 20% of surgical residents leave for another specialty. There is a resident in her program now who came in after a year of surgery, and there was one at the hospital where she did most of her rotations in med school. It must be fairly common.</p>
<p>It does seem to be taking a serious chance to only apply to one program for anesthesiology though.</p>
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<p>Yep, it is. And I don’t think he’s decided to do that for sure. However, that program is the only one he could attend and live with his (by then) wife. They already have a place to live, so they would save a lot of money that way. He also has other family here, as does she. And the thought of moving to yet another town without her to start all over again is overwhelming to him at this point. </p>
<p>I think the trickiest part for him might be that “off rotation” year. As was said upthread, the intern year he is currently doing in surgery will meet that requirement. But all the PGY2 spots for starting the Anesthesiology rotations in the program for next year were filled LAST match go 'round. Often, though, for whatever reason, someone does not end up coming for that and a spot is left unfilled, so he will be ready to take that spot. According to someone (a current chief resident in the program, I believe), they know personally and have talked to about this, this might actually be a “hook” (to use CC terminology!) for him. :)</p>
<p>This thread makes me wondering about this: When is a “good” time for a student on the medicine career track to have a committed relationship? In college? In med school? Or, in or even after residency? Assume here that only one of the couple is on this track (like OP).</p>
<p>^^^</p>
<p>That’s an often-debated question. Some marry before med school, some while in med school, some have babies while in med school, etc. It can work out well for some, and maybe be quite complicated for others.</p>
<p>My son’s apt is about 100 feet away from his long-time GF’s apt - they’ve been together since they were in high school (no Turkey Drop for them…lol). He’s a first year med student, and she’s debating between applying to med school herself, or become a PA. Her parents, son, and I are hoping that she goes the PA route since not only is it best suited for her personality, but it would jive better with all the logistics. I expect that they will marry within a couple of years…son was recently examining my Grandmother’s engagement ring that I inherited a year ago…lol.</p>
<p>My D and her fianc</p>
<p>Moderator’s Note</p>
<p>I am moving this thread to pre-med topics where other parents have started a thread about applying for residencies.</p>
<p>This is NOT a pre-med topic. It’s for after one has completed medical school and is looking for a residency spot. I do not see any other threads on here about residency issues and Match Day. I regret that this thread has been moved as it was meant to be a discussion among parents or family members of med school graduates applying for Match.</p>
<p>church,
my D. is will be waiting for her match in one year. She still has lots to go thru in her 3rd year. Most likely she will apply around our state. But some of them will not be in a driving distance. She also does not midn to stay where she is. There are 3 programs in her city that she will apply and 7 of them in our state.<br>
Thank you for starting this thread. I value any information that I will find here.<br>
It is more visible in pre-med, I mostly check here, it seems to be the most popular, so I understand why it is moved.</p>
<p>Well, I am glad it is helpful to you, then, MiamiDAP! I just hope that those who participated in it last year over in the parent cafe can find it when they need support as their kids are going through match!</p>
<p>Best to you and your D as she considers what she wants to do in her career!</p>
<p>churchmusicmom,
For some unknown reason, this premed topic forum has more parents, family members of both premeds and medical school students. Occasionally, some med school students (who used to be here when they applied to med schools) or physian parents may visit here too. There are other forums on CC that are meant for those who are beyond the premed stage, but there tends to be much fewer CCers there. So this premed topic place sort of becomes the de facto gathering places for all who are or have children or familiy members on the medicine track. On top of my head, I can recall about half a dozens med school students or residents (or their parents) who have been “graduated” from this premed topic forum.</p>
<p>norcalguy started a residency thread a few years ago (He was here on and off since his UG years and is now a resident.) BRM, BDM, shades have been graduated from the med school and participated on that thread also. somemom’s D is applying to the residency/match next spring. curm’s D, miamiDAP’s D, gamom’s D, and a few others (my S and mom2cg’s S) will be next. </p>
<p>DS is an MS3 now. He may take a tuition-free research year between MS3 and MS4 per their school’s tradition. (The majority of their students do this, I think.) So it may be a while before he applies for the residency. We prefer he would take that research year also; for nothing else, the road ahead (i.e., residency years) will be tough; it may be good to have a little bit “break” before that.</p>
<p>Thanks for starting this thread. The info in this thread is useful for many of us here.</p>
<p>Add D1 to the list of current MS3s who will be applying for residency next fall. In fact, she’s been talking a great deal about residency and specialty choices lately since she will be applying for her away rotations starting next month.</p>
<p>(And D2 starts med school in Summer/Fall '14—so I get to do this all over again in 4 years.)</p>
<p>WOWMom, Oops…How could I ever forget to mention your D1 and D2. It worries me that I could manage to forget this as I have read thousands of your informative posts (Thanks here!) – you are definitely one of the most knowledgeable CCers as a parent!</p>
<p>Unlike your D1, my S barely mentioned anything about residency and specialty choices. He has a “good” track of doing this kind of thing at the last minute (e.g., came up with the list of schools at the last minute and almost applied to his IS schools only, mostly because he thought only his IS schools would love him back, during his med school app cycle.) LOL.</p>
<p>D just finished up a research year and is currently applying for residency. A significant minority seem to take a research year at D’s school.</p>
<p>No no mentionning about research year from D. As of now, she is not doing it. Knowing her history, in general, she wants to move on to the next step as fast as possible. I would be greatly surprised to hear otherwise. It may be different from specialty to specialty. Some require “Transitional” year anyway.</p>
<p>D1 isn’t taking a research year because: 1) she believes she has a strong enough app to get into any of the specialties she’s most interested in; 2) she’s a bit older than most (she just turned 28) and doesn’t want to delay her professional career any longer than need be.</p>
<p>Besides, her school requires a research thesis from all students and she does have a couple of on-going research projects</p>
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<p>And don’t forget kristin! She’s another MS3 and still pops in to post from time-to-time.</p>