AP Calculus for Wharton

<p>i heard that Wharton recommends you to take AP Calculus. I am currently doing the IB and am doing this outside of school and was wondering, is it Calculus AB or Calculus BC they require? and also are there any other particular subjects we are advised to take?</p>

<p>They don’t specifically require one or the other as long as you take calculus. AB is the less advanced of the two but plenty of kids (including me) got in with nothing but AB. As far as other classes go, they don’t specifically stress too much since they like kids to persue their interests. They advise that you take the hardest courses possible. . .probably most business classes are desireable but some if not most of them at the high school level are jokes, so you’d often be better off simply doing reading and research on your own.</p>

<p>ahh kk thanks :slight_smile:
approximately how long does it take to complete AP Calculus AB? How long do most people study it for?</p>

<p>AP AB is a year long course during high school that supposedly offers the equivalent of 1 semester of college level single variable calc. . .but for Penn AB probably covers just slightly over a quarter. I’m not sure what’s a typical amount of time spent in the class since my teacher is sort of crazy; she was my state’s AP teacher of the year and has wanted to prove she deserves the award by assigning 1-2 hours of hw a night and we have upwards of 3 tests/quizes every week. I don’t know much about IB classes since my school doesn’t offer them, but you should be fine</p>

<p>Do you have to take Calc in HS for Wharton, or does Upenn offer a calc course?</p>

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<p>I am sure that UPenn offers a calculus course; all universities do.</p>

<p>If i were you, and you wanted to self-study Calc, I would just go for AP Calc BC. AP Calc BC covers what AB does, but does just a little bit more. That’s why on the AP Calc BC exam, you get your score for the Calc BC exam, as well as an “AB subscore”. This is because the calc BC exam, i’m not sure what the ratio is, but a good amount of the questions on the BC exam is the same as the ones on the AB exam. When it comes to the free response, i think about 2 or 3 are the same exact questions (AB and BC), except BC’s other 3 FR questions are based on material that AB does not cover. Typically students spend about 2 terms at my school to finish BC (we do trimesters).</p>

<p>It’s a pretty easy exam imo. So go for Calc BC and get it out of the way…that way you can take other classes when you get to penn/use ur time more wisely.</p>

<p>“It’s a pretty easy exam imo.” yeah right!</p>

<p>My school couldn’t fit AP Calculus into my schedule, but I’m in IB Mathematics SL and we cover the same things. Would I be ok?</p>

<p>I suppose it depends on your teacher and how thorough he is. I don’t really know too much about the IB program and all that, but take a look at past AP Calc BC exams and SEE how they grade you. That’s the most important part. Once you grasp that down, the calc exam IS easy because it’s just regurgitate regurgitate regurgitate…get it? It’s not hard at all.</p>

<p>@HonorsCentaur
The curriculum for IB Mathematics SL doesn’t cover many of the topics for AP Calculus AB, let alone BC. I take IB Math HL, and there are still some calculus topics that aren’t covered (L’Hopital, Taylor, etc.) However, IB Math introduces 3-D geometry, vectors, and matrices instead. So I guess it depends what you mean by “okay”. If you want to switch credit for Math 104, you’d need to study the extra topics, unless your school’s IB Math SL is super hard.</p>

<p>Wow, how can AB not cover L’Hopital’s. It’s pretty much one of the most fundamental calculus rules out there and I can’t imagine doing much of calculus without it.</p>

<p>Calculus AB DOES cover L’Hopital’s principle, I took the course last year and spent ages on L’Hopital.</p>

<p>Haha I remember L’Hopitals being easiest thing in BC.</p>

<p>@h00dr1chh: Your school’s class may have covered L’Hopital, but it’s not on the AB test. It is useful to know it though if you don’t want to memorize a couple of trig limits. (lim x–>0 of sinx/x, for example)</p>

<p>I have the same question to ask: Should I take IB SL or HL class to meet the requirement of Wharton admission? I want to reduce my workload and take Math SL class if it is unnessary to take HL math class since I am shooting for a full IB diploma and I will have 4 HL classes if I have to take Math HL class. But I also don’t want to take the wrong class (IB Math SL) and minimize my chance for getting into Wharton. Please help !!!</p>

<p>Um, since this thread is kind of turning into a Q&A anyway, would one of the current Wharton students mind talking about AP credit as it relates to placement? For example, do you know of many Wharton students who came in with a 5 on the BC exam? If so, did they use the credit to proceed to upper-level calculus, go straight to statistics, or choose to re-take the BC level course?</p>

<p>I’m in BC this year and hoping to do well on the exam (ahem, we’ll see if that actually comes to fruition). I know that I’m not interested in a finance concentration, or one in statistics or actuarial science, for that matter. If I did manage a 5 on the BC exam, would it be at all detrimental to skip calc at Penn and take STAT 101 first semester?</p>

<p>So sorry for the hijacking! And thank you in advance.</p>

<p>From what I have heard, Math 104 (Calc BC equivalent) is quite hard, and that if you can skip it, you should. I plan on skipping it and going straight into statistics.</p>

<p>I remember on the Penn website, it said that AP calculus is strongly recommended for Wharton students…however Penn doesn’t even accept AP calculus credit! Confused…</p>

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Mathematics AB no credit
Mathematics BC 5 Math 104 (1 c.u.)</p>

<p>[Penn</a> Admissions: Advanced Placement Policy](<a href=“http://www.admissionsug.upenn.edu/applying/advanced.php]Penn”>http://www.admissionsug.upenn.edu/applying/advanced.php)</p>

<p>Thanks a lot Maxyboy;
Another question, do you guys think that it’s better to retake calculus in uni despite taking AP in high school? I need to decide on whether or not to take AP soon, and I was thinking how even if I manage to get a 5, I might still want to take Calculus in uni (or Penn if I get in…), just because I feel that the uni course will be harder than my AP right now. BTW, I plan to go into business, so I might need subsequent Calc credits (if there are such things).</p>

<p>P.S. my school’s AP calc class include the regular gr 12 calculus, calculus AB and calculus BC all in one lol. Is that normal?</p>