AP Classes vs. College

<p>Hello, </p>

<p>I was wondering if high school AP classes are harder than intro-level college courses. I'm taking AB Calculus (the easier one) right now, and it's overwhelming. I'm pretty certain that I will end up dropping the course since I'm having trouble making a C let alone an A. I finished pre-Cal with a high A last year, and I can't comprehend why I'm struggling. Maybe it's the teacher... </p>

<p>Anyway, I was wondering if I take Calculus I in college, will it be as hard? I know it'll be the same topics, but will I have a better chance at making an A? My reasoning is, most students take PRE-calculus their senior year, and when they go to college they have to take calculus, so it must be an easy transition. Right? </p>

<p>Also, the same goes for Physics and Chemistry. I did not take Physics AP or Chem AP, will the intro-level college courses be as hard as the ones in high school? (The kids who take these kinds of classes at my high school end up going to MIT, Yale, Harvard) </p>

<p>I am taking Bio AP right now, and I'm doing fairly well. However, I can't fathom the possibility of some of the kids in my school taking this same class their freshman year of college.</p>

<p>You can research “AP course audit” - essentially, it’s the process of certifying hs AP classes. Last I heard, it’s a cumbersome process. In theory, if a kid can get college credit, he should have learned enough that he is prepared for the next level of learning in that subject, in college. This is from collegeboard.com; there must be more info out there. [AP</a> Course Audit - Home Page](<a href=“College Board - SAT, AP, College Search and Admission Tools”>AP Course Audit – AP Central | College Board)</p>

<p>IMO, colleges expect a certain breadth and depth of work to be covered in their own courses. But, generally have no mandatory audit process like the one for AP. I think that means it is entirely possible you could luck out and have an inspiring, responsive college calculus teacher. Ie, easier. But, no guarantee.</p>

<p>Btw, I thought pre-calc was a jr year class. At least, at my kids’ school.</p>

<p>Thanks, yeah I’m not too good at math, I just need to get one year of calculus out of the way, cause I’m applying to med. Usually, freshman yr is algebra 1, sophomore geometry, junior algebra 2, senior precal, a lot of students take algebra 1 in 8th grade, and a few take it in seventh grade!</p>

<p>I will probably have to go over the whole course during summer so I can easily make an A.</p>

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<p>I’m in a similar situation as you. I’m in ab calculus as well, and unfortunately for us, what we learned in precalculus does not involve any calculus. You should try to stick out ap calc though; it wouldn’t look so good on your records if you dropped. </p>

<p>I’m also curious about the level of AP classes in college vs. high school. My reason for sticking with my AP classes is that it will be cheaper now and I will be able to advance quicker in college.</p>

<p>The obvious answer is that it depends on where you go to high school and where you will go to college. An Exeter kid who goes to UMass is going to find that college is absurdly easy. A kid from public school in the inner city who goes to Harvard is going to find college really, really hard.</p>

<p>Ah ok, that’s a relief! Thanks. Most of the kids in our school get 5s on the AP.</p>

<p>Difficulty is kind of a subjective matter so I’ll just give you explain my opinion and you can take that how you will.</p>

<p>Personally, I feel that AP classes were much easier than college courses. One of the main reasons was that in high school, we had homework as a kind of buffer. Even if you crashed and burned on a test, high homework grades could help support your overall grade. College classes, on the other hand, will mainly count exams as your grade. (Though, on that note, other things may count depending on the class, such as essays, quizzes, and some homework, but not to the degree they did in high school.) Therefore, crashing and burning on an exam impacts you much more.</p>

<p>Now, focusing mainly on Calculus, in case that was your subject of interest, I would say that it really depends on your professor in college. Now, before I go further, I’ll just say that I’m kind of coming from a different perspective since I took AP Calculus BC and took Calculus II in college so take this with a pinch of salt.
Anyways, in high school, I was told that AP Calculus BC was more like a full year of calculus in college, as compared to AP Calculus AB, which was a semester of calculus stretched into a full year of high school. I’m not sure if this still applies, but, if it does, then imagine your current curriculum taught at a much faster pace. In this circumstance, I would feel that the AP class was much easier. If this no longer applies, ignore this paragraph.
I would say that calculus in college is comparable to AP Calculus in level of difficulty. For me, it was basically just a review of everything I’d learned in AP class. I actually started with one professor who went super fast with the curriculum before switching to another professor who went at a nicer pace, where I could actually understand what he was lecturing. The faster professor assumed that many students came in with a good background in calculus so that may have contributed to the difficulty in his section. We were graded by exams and weekly quizzes, so the only difference from high school would probably be the lack of graded homework. I’d say then, that, if it’s mainly time that’s the issue with the difficulty of calculus, it might be easier at the college level since theoretically you’ll have more time. If it’s the concepts that are giving you trouble, I’d say it’s about the same.
On a side note though, I do empathize with your struggle in calculus. I struggled with it too during senior year of high school. It is a difficult subject. Though, I stuck it out and I ended up making a 5 on my AP test even if I didn’t make an A in the course, so I’d encourage you to stick it out. You might be surprised what happens.</p>

<p>You also queried about Physics and Chemistry. I didn’t take either of those AP classes so I can only talk about the college level courses. At my university, Physics was split up into Physics I and Physics II and Chemistry was similarly split up into General Chemistry I and General Chemistry II. I’m not sure if this is the case but I’ll just speak about the "I"s in both cases. Physics I was probably comparable to Pre-AP Physics. Same “fun” online homework, thousands of formulas, and interest tests. So, if Physics was hard to you in high school, it will likely still be hard in college. General Chemistry I was fairly easy, I’d say. It goes into much more depth than Pre-AP Chemistry but it’s all fairly understandable.</p>

<p>Whoah! Look at that giant wall of text. Hopefully, I answered your question somewhere in there or explained it well enough. Hope that helps. Sorry for being so long-winded!</p>

<p>I greatly appreciate your input. For me, studying all the concepts of Calculus during the summer will increase my chances of performing well in College. I’m not too worried about that. However, I never really took a “proper” chemistry class in high school, which I regret dearly. I took a month-long summer course, but I believe we covered a lot during the first part of Bio II this year. (Biochemistry) I think I’ll be able to manage though, thanks again!</p>