AP Credit and WashU

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<p>Can someone please elaborate on how AP credit would affect me in the long run at washU. (Class 2011)</p>

<p>I know ArtSci has max 15 credits and SEAS is unlimited. </p>

<p>I'm in Engineering right now, but I'm thinking about transfering into ArtSci. </p>

<p>I am NOT thinking about graduating early. </p>

<p>Taking Ap's seems so pointless. I'm thinking about engineering or Premed or possible Math/Econ. </p>

<p>I already have Chem/Stat/CalcBC(all 5's) I signed up for Bio/Gov/English Language and Composition.</p>

<p>If those AP's won't let me skip classes and just give me credit then there is no point in taking it. Am i correct?</p>

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<p>pretty much, yeah.</p>

<p>One thing I forgot earlier though, is that actually, the extra credits (even if they aren't useful specifically) do help you out in terms of registering for classes. Since I have basically a whole semester of AP credits (none of which, besides calc BC, actually helped me in terms of placement), I got an earlier time to register for classes than those who do not have a whole semester extra of credits, which is helpful in terms of getting the specific subunits of the classes you want, or getting into some of the cool classes that don't have that many seats.</p>

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<p>So is Calculus basically the only AP credit you can get? I plan on doing PNP and possibly a double major in the business school. Will I get any AP credit?</p>

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<p>WashU - Ap policy link <a href="http://registrar.seas.wustl.edu/AdvicetonewFreshmen/AP_Policy.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://registrar.seas.wustl.edu/AdvicetonewFreshmen/AP_Policy.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>that one's for engineering, here's the one for ArtSci
<a href="http://artsci.wustl.edu/%7Ecollege/First_Year/Placement/Advanced/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://artsci.wustl.edu/~college/First_Year/Placement/Advanced/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>when I said earlier that calc was the only one that helped me in terms of placement, part of that is because I'm a bio major, not taking a foreign language (so therefore, no benefit in terms of AP placement there). You still get credit for the other APs, but they tend to only be useful in terms of "hey! I have 12 extra credits!", not in terms of getting you out of prereqs for certain classes...I hope this helps. I know I'm not wording this in the best possible manner....
Here's a quote from a post I posted on a different thread:</p>

<p>"a. A 5 on AP bio gives you credit for some 100 level course not required for the bio major. You still have to take 2960, 2970, and 3050 at wustl
b. A 5 on AP chem can get you into orgo, but traditionally this is not the wisest route gpa-wise, since genchem at wustl is much more rigorous than what is taught in AP classes.
c. math-yes..here you can advance in the calculus sequence, but you still have to take a stat class, bc the AP stat is non-calc based, and the bio major requires you to have a calc-based stats class</p>

<p>So maybe you'd come in with more credits, but they're most likely not going to help you any towards a major, which I guess was my main point. I used a bio major because that's the one I'm most familiar with, but it's comparable for other majors.{in the natural sciences arena}"</p>

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<p>I just realized...based on that link. AP english lang and comp has NO value for engineering students. </p>

<p>sorry, i'm still kinda confused on Bio. is the 100 course a prerequesite for a higher class though? </p>

<p>So basic question: AP Gov/Bio/Comp and Lang would be of no help for ANY major. </p>

<p>and there is no foreign language requirement at WashU correct?</p>

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<p>re bio: nope....It's just extra credit floating around on your transcript(which, as mentioned above I think, is helpful in terms of allowing you to register for classes earlier than people with less credits (potentially))</p>

<p>re: foreign lang:...for artSci the curriculum is complicated. There are no required classes except for Writing 1. Then there are four different subject areas (Natural Science, Languages and Arts, Social Sciences, and Textual and History Studies), into which pretty much all of the classes fall into, and basically you have to have a certain number of credits in each area. Foreign language classes take care of the LA distribution requirements, but so do art history classes, music theory and history classes.....so, yes, if you hate foreign language study and never want to take another foreign language class (like me!), you won't have to. I hope this helped. The curriculum is a bit more complicated than I made it out to be, but in essence, it works out to about 8 credits in each subject area, and then a few other requirements that aren't too difficult to pick up along the way.</p>

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<p>einnoc07 - The english AP's don't get you any credits, but if you get a 5 you can get out of ecomp, which is a huge plus! However, you can also get out of it by getting > 700 on SAT II in writing, which is probably easier, or by passing a placement test.</p>

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<p>Sadly the same doesn't hold true for us poor artsci kids....we have to take it no matter what : (</p>

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<p>First of all, I thought they don't give the English writing SAT II anymore now that they have the writing section of the SAT. Could a good score on the SAT writing test be used? Also, aren't the AP credits useful in terms of electives you won't have to take?</p>

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<p>I heard from a student that it's 750 on English part of SAT I (not sure if CR or WR) for engineering, but I haven't seen it in writing, so I am not sure.</p>

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<p>what about AP scores for admissions? important or not?</p>

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<p>If they are good, they'll probably help. If they are bad, you don't have to report them...</p>

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<p>I agree with nngmm, good scores are always a plus for any university. Scores of five, and sometimes four, give you credits and placement, and if you are planning to graduate early, they will help you a lot.</p>