<p>Since stern takes 4s for credit on their tests, I'm most likely going to have 22 ap credits (eng lit, physics C mech+e&m, euro, us) and have calc bc for placement. On their site it says that they strongly recommend using a max of 16 credits otherwise it could result in early graduation...what i've heard from a teacher is that they do this for $, if you graduate early, you get your degree but then they loose half a year of payment from you and have an empty space in the senior class, which they obviously cant just fill. Any thoughts on this? Also, is it possible to use a lot of ap credits then take more business classes for a possibly double major or major and a minor? any responses are appreciated</p>
<p>There are a number of people who graduate a semester early. Stern doesn't like people doing that so they limit the number of AP credits.</p>
<p>You can use some of those AP to place out of requirements and take electives. Almost everyone in Stern does a double major because our majors are only 4 classes (16 credits). With so many credits you can choose to do a major in CAS becuse those require 40 credits.</p>
<p>The other thing you can do is to make your schedule so that you can't graduate early. Technically, I have senior status now because of the number of credits I have, but CAS can't force me to graduate because I haven't finished all my MAP courses nor have I completed the requirements for my major.</p>
<p>Double majors are easy in Stern, but I don't really agree with what wyseson said about majoring in CAS. Admittedly, it's only a couple extra classes to add on, say, an IB comajor, but you take a lot of Stern core classes. You will have only 36 elective credits for a major in CAS, and if you want to do a double major in Stern, then you will have only 20 or so available credits (assuming that you don't want to take classes in the summer and would like to graduate after 128 credits as most people do). This may not be enough for even a minor in CAS, so make sure you start planning this out your first semester in school and don't take any electives you don't have to.</p>
<p>Also, you may not want to apply those AP credits. None of those AP exams are going to get you out of any requirements (aside from the physics for natsci), and if they don't apply towards a CAS major or minor that you'd like to do, applying those AP credits will only eat up your precious few elective credits. My best advice is to ONLY apply the physics and the calc (if you want to take a more advanced math) at first because you can always apply the other ones later on in your college career.</p>
<p>In any case, applying AP credits will not help you get a double major in Stern, but MIGHT help you with a minor/major in CAS.</p>
<p>To clarify, I agree with youkosiren on not wanting to apply all the AP credits because of the possibility of running out of credits and the loss of financial aid after 128 credits.</p>
<p>Probably the smartest thing to do is wait until the end to apply credits, becuase it takes advantage of shades_children's recommendation of not being forced to graduate early (AP physics for natsci requirement) and allows you to prevent the problems mentioned above from occuring.</p>
<p>The only downside to waiting is that registration after first semester is done in order of credits so if you don't bring in any APs you'll have one of the last registration times.</p>
<p>wow, this is all new to me, i didnt know they cut off fin aid after 128 credits. And are you saying that I can use my AP credits in senior year if I decide it would be beneficial to do so later? I didn't know this before, but I guess you were inferring that elective credits are important because you can fill those class spaces for a second major in business. I thought that they were for classes not related to majors and thats why they are electives.</p>
<p>Well, actually, they won't cut it off after 128 credits if you're still a full-time student and you can't actually graduate yet (ie, haven't fulfilled all the requirements). </p>
<p>Yes, you can apply your AP credits senior year if you want/need to.</p>
<p>There are two types of elective credits: you get 16-18 that can't be taken in Stern, and 16-18 that can be used for Stern classes (for a total of 32). What they really mean by elective credits is that you can actually use them for nonmajor, nonrequired classes if you so choose.</p>
<p>Oh ok thanks for clearing that up. What I'm getting fro this is that the elective credits should be used only for students who are not going for a cas major because you will need to be able to have as many classes open as possible in order to fulfill your major requirements. I was also unaware that there were a limited number of credits for Stern, which I guess means that if you want to double major you pretty much have to use every credit you can to go towards the majors. Let me know if I'm wrong. Also...</p>
<p>"You can use some of those AP to place out of requirements and take electives. Almost everyone in Stern does a double major because our majors are only 4 classes (16 credits). With so many credits you can choose to do a major in CAS becuse those require 40 credits."
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<h1>"There are two types of elective credits: you get 16-18 that can't be taken in Stern, and 16-18 that can be used for Stern classes (for a total of 32)."</h1>
<p>It's possible to double major at Stern and major at CAS?!?!?!</p>
<p>Does this mean that you can double major at stern and major at cas!?!</p>
<p>I do not believe doing triple major is a good idea if that's possible at all. By doing so you will have absolutely no room for any kind of free elective, and you will be hard-pressed to specialize in one area that you really need to go for.</p>
<p>It is almost like saying that you want to be a professional baseball, basketball and hockey athlete all at once. It may be possible, but will you be great in all of your specialties? that's unlikely.</p>
<p>"Does this mean that you can double major at stern and major at cas!?!"</p>
<p>Errr, maybe, but that's highly unlikely. I'm sorry, I think I confused you - how the credits work at Stern is that you have 74 credits of core courses + 6 intl business credits - classes everyone has to take. Then, you have at least 12 credits worth of classes to complete your main major. So, that's a total of at least 92 credits that are taken within Stern.</p>
<p>This leaves 36 credits that can be used for anything, but around half HAVE to be non-Stern classes. </p>
<p>Therefore, if you want to get a 2nd major in Stern, then that's an additional 12 or so credits you're using up (CPA accounting and some others use up more). That means you have 24 elective credits left. Depending on minor requirements, you could complete a CAS minor with those 24 credits.</p>
<p>If you want a CAS major, you can do some majors with those 36 credits - for example, a linguistics major only requires 32 credits. But other majors, even English (which is 40 credits) will probably end up pushing you over the 128 credit limit, though that may not necessarily impact your financial aid. However, if you want to major in CAS as well as in Stern, then you REALLY need to talk to your advisor ASAP, especially since Stern only allows you to do some CAS majors (I don't know which). </p>
<p>Bottom line:
- 1 Stern major + 1 Stern major (ie, finance & intl business - which is what I'm doing) works.
- 1 Stern major + 1 Stern major + 1 CAS minor is possible (ie, finance, ib, politics)
- 1 Stern major + 1 CAS major is also possible, depending on the CAS major
- 1 Stern major + 1 Stern major + 1 CAS major probably WON'T work unless you're willing to take summer classes & go over the 128 credit limit</p>
<p>For a visual/chart of how the credits are allocated, here's something that's a little outdated, but hopefully the class of 2009 one is not too crazily out of date:
<a href="http://w4.stern.nyu.edu/uc/currentstudents/advising.cfm?doc_id=5032%5B/url%5D">http://w4.stern.nyu.edu/uc/currentstudents/advising.cfm?doc_id=5032</a></p>
<p>Thanks youkosiren, that REALLY cleared everything up. I was just asking about triple major not intending to do it, I was just confused because the possibility of doing it even seems ridiculous. I'm planning to double major, so i guess i might as well use my ap credits since im not going to need those extra elective credits to put towards a cas minor or anything. Im assuming that those 12 ap elective credits and 10 ap nat science credits along with some appropriate scheduling may allow me to graduate a semester early?</p>
<p>Question: Are there any reasons NOT to apply AP credits at CAS, like there is at Stern?</p>
<p>My recommendation is to just apply the natsci credits first, then talk with the advisors about applying the other ones. Some double majors in Stern may require a lot of credits (ie, CPA & finance). If you're absolutely sure you don't want to take electives, you can always apply the credits later. </p>
<p>But yes, it would let you graduate a semester early, though I wouldn't necessarily recommend it. I applied AP calc and macro & micro, and right now, I could graduate in December '06, but I'm staying on an extra semester. Stern lets you go part-time 2nd semester senior year, so if you plan things out right, your last semester in college, you could just take the 2 credit ethics class, pay the $3k in tuition, stay in NYU housing, and have an internship & party :P Who wants to enter the real world early? </p>
<p>I'm lame though, and I'm actually going full-time because it works out to be cheaper that way. Still, 12 credits, light load~</p>
<p>ugh.. I wish I could apply my micro/macro econ :(</p>
<p>you think I would be able to do finance + cpa accounting + a minor in CAS w/o killing myself and havin a social life?</p>
<p>njchino: I won't lie, that might be pretty rough. If you don't mind taking summer classes, it might work out all right though. Talk to your advisor as soon as possible so you can see if everything fits.</p>
<p>Do AP credits (except natsci) count toward stern elective credits or general elective credits?
If the latter, is it still possble to use lots of AP credits and double major at Stern?</p>
<p>are you sure 92 credits though, that sounds really high. At the Sunday in the Square thing, I specifically remember them going over the curriculum and sayin half the classes are taken in Stern, and half are elective courses.</p>
<p>AP credits count towards general elective credits, but those 36 credits can ALL be used for non-Stern classes. It's just that you HAVE to use half of them for non-Stern classes. </p>
<p>You can double major at stern, but ap credits really don't affect that. I mean, you can always go over 128 credits, it just might affect your financial aid.</p>
<p>njchino: honestly, I'm not 100% sure. I know they made a couple of curriculum changes for 2010 kids - they don't require macroecon anymore, for one. But my advice is the same for everyone - take mostly required classes your first semester, apply the minimum of ap credits necessary, and everything else can be sorted out after you're settled in.</p>
<p>Macro is no longer required?</p>