<p>Apparently the AP policy offers credit for first year Chem but not the lab (141L). How would this work? Is it workable to do the lab without taking the class?</p>
<p>You are probably going to have to take other courses in its place that might help you.</p>
<p>Yes, you can take the labs without the classes. The labs are important but are not done in high school.</p>
<p>You can easily do the labs without any lecture courses. Just do be aware 141L and 142L are rather time consuming on their own.</p>
<p>And I think.. if you talk with the professor beforehand, he/she might see fit to let you skip the intro lab work if he/she thinks you can. I'm in the same situation as you but for bio, and the professor I talked with thinks I can skip the first semester of intro lab work.</p>
<p>In my humble experience you're going to be need to pretty darn persuasive to get that with chemistry, and you will need some physical evidence (e.g. your lab writeups) of your high school ap chemistry lab experience being of up to par quality.</p>
<p>Would it be easier to skip intro labs for biology?</p>
<p>Intro labs for biology aren't required for the major. Neither would the chem labs as long as you take sufficient credit for that major (I'd imagine most chem majors do the 80s series anyway). However, the major reason people take them is because they fulfill medical school prereqs.</p>
<p>Lol I see. Thanks for your reply and the earlier one to my schedule question. =)</p>
<p>if u took ap chem, maybe u can show the professor ur lab book from high school and he might place u outta it, thats what my teacher said worked for some ppl</p>
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Intro labs for biology aren't required for the major. Neither would the chem labs as long as you take sufficient credit for that major (I'd imagine most chem majors do the 80s series anyway).
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Having just checked the department pages - every single chemistry and biology major option specifically requires the introductory chemistry labs (although almost always 141L/142L is substitutable with 181L/182L - both are introductory chemistry courses, just 180's is at a more difficult level).
<a href="http://wsrv.clas.virginia.edu/%7Ejnd/sixpagex.htm%5B/url%5D">http://wsrv.clas.virginia.edu/~jnd/sixpagex.htm</a>
<a href="http://virginia.edu/biology/New_Bio_Home_files/Academic_pgms_undergrad.htm%5B/url%5D">http://virginia.edu/biology/New_Bio_Home_files/Academic_pgms_undergrad.htm</a></p>
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if u took ap chem, maybe u can show the professor ur lab book from high school and he might place u outta it, thats what my teacher said worked for some ppl
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Be aware that this will only work if the lab book is of appropriate quality/level. If you took the ap lecture courses but had the typical (i.e. none or poor) high school lab experience you will need to take the labs and you will not be able to get out it just due to taking the ap courses.</p>
<p>I'm pretty sure if you're going straight for orgo the chem department wouldn't restrict you from obtaining a major, as long as the 4 credits you miss on those labs is done in a more advanced chem/chem lab course. They probably just say that because there's no one who would actually do that. Those wanting to do the 40s series are generally premeds or trying to complete their bio majors, so they do those courses anyway. Those who are looking to be chem majors and are ambitious enough to go for orgo would rather take the track of honors chemistry, and start the 80s series.</p>
<p>Biology does not require the intro bio lab. It requires one 300 and one 400 level lab, though the specific requirements on this may have changed. The intro bio lab is mainly offered because its for the premeds or for people who don't know what the **** an electrophoresis is but want to be bio majors anyway.</p>