AP Credit

<p>Ok say i get college credit with:</p>

<p>AP English
AP Calculus BC
AP Biology
AP Chemistry
AP Physics B&C</p>

<p>Other than organic chemistry, all of my pre requisites will be filled through high school classes where my grades will not be reported. What will colleges factor into my GPA besides Organic Chemistry assuming i go for a non science major.</p>

<p>Nothing, if you either don't retake those classes or don't take upper level courses in those subjects.</p>

<p>First off, you get no credit whatsoever for AP English for an expository writing requirement at virtually all med schools.</p>

<p>Secondly, at most med schools the only AP you can use to satisfy their reqs is Calc.</p>

<p>You could use, bio, chem, and physics if you planned on taking upper level courses in those subjects, but seeing as how you'd go for a non science major, odds are you can't.</p>

<p>So basically the AP's you can use: </p>

<p>AP Calc BC</p>

<p>The AP's you might be able to use, but most likely not (definitely not assuming you're a non science major):</p>

<p>AP Chem
AP Bio
AP Physics B&C</p>

<p>The AP you undoubtedly will not be able to use to fill recommended or required class hours:</p>

<p>AP English (Lit or Lang)</p>

<p>Too, since you want to apply to a broad swath of schools, you have to meet the requirements at the most stringent, not the least, of them.</p>

<p>but at least OP's AP credits will get rid of the need to take some extra classes to build up the graduation credit total right?</p>

<p>Just because he can use the AP credits to fulfill his own college's graduation requirements, doesn't mean he can use them to fulfill med school requirements.</p>

<p>Not too many med schools let you get away with using AP's. However, to answer your question, yes you technically can use AP's at your college to build up graduation credit. Not that it will help you, but you can.</p>

<p>Before you accept everything here as gospel I strongly suggest all of you check with the individual medical schools to see if your AP credit will satisfy them for pre-requisites courses. Most all medical schools being considered by my D accept some AP credit. Yes. That does include the top schools.</p>

<p>To elaborate, I don't think someone should be using AP credit to meet med school science course requirements in bio or chem, maybe not even physics. But I see no problem in using them to satisfy an English/Writing requirement, or a math/calculus requirement. A quick check shows that HMS, JHU, Baylor all allow limited use of AP's.</p>

<p>It would definitely behoove you to check w/ the individual schools. For example, some of the UC's (such as UCLA) will flat out refuse to accept AP credit to satisfy any of their requirements (and UCLA does have both math and writing/English requirements).</p>

<p>It is - so far- the trickiest thing about applying to medical school. Add in the added scenario of college work done while in high school at a junior college for dual credit with the aforemnetioned school by school AP policies (and within those schools course by course AP policies ) and you have a virtually indecipherable set of rules. Best to be safe and call e-mail each school for a ruling. That is what D will do when the time comes. If a school is too priggish well - my D lopped off a whole group of UG schools by her refusal to take SAT Subject Tests - I doubt this will be any different. ;)</p>

<p>the ap credits, for most colleges, are for elective credit or fufilling GE, so you dont have to take as many classes to finish graduation. But im pretty sure you cant use any of those to fufill premed requirements.</p>

<p>Aaaarrgghh. LOL. Y'all are killing me. Just killing me. </p>

<p>Some (not all) AP's ARE accepted for preq's at MOST (not all) schools. Here is Harvard's Required Course page...... </p>

<p>...
4. Mathematics: one year of calculus. [color=red]Advanced placement credits may satisfy this requirement<a href="Calculus%20AB%20-%201%20semester,%20Calculus%20BC%20-%202%20semesters">/color</a>. </p>

<p>See? AP Calc BC . It counts. At HMS. </p>

<p>Just to get y'all to stop saying this "can't use AP's" stuff.</p>

<p>I can find several dozen more if I had the time. Check JHU and Baylor for two more top schools who will accept SOME (not all) AP's for SOME (not all) pre-req's.</p>

<p>Do the work. Don't rely on others or you may be unpleasantly surprised.</p>

<p>How about Texas State Medical Schools besides Baylor? Do they accept any AP credits (e.g. AP Calculus BC, AP Chemistry, AP English)?</p>

<p>Granted, it is unwise to use too many AP credits because Medical Schools may not have enough courses to evaluate your academic strength -- unless you take more upper-level courses.</p>

<p>Again, the problem is that because students have to apply to a broad swath of schools, you have to meet the requirements at the most, not least, stringent schools in this regard. For that reason, you have to act as if AP Credits (possible exception for math) do not count at all.</p>

<p>Regarding "the ap credits, for most colleges, are for elective credit or fufilling GE, so you dont have to take as many classes to finish graduation. ", at least for DS's college, the statement "you dont have to take as many classes to finish graduation" is not completely true, practically speaking. Students are allowed to use AP credits to skip some intro courses, but they are still expected/required to take the same number of courses (just more advanced courses) every semester. This would be the case unless the students choose to graduate early - which rarely happens. The college life, especially the extracurriculum part of college life, is just so much fun that almost no student chooses to cut the four years short. Also AP credits can not be used to satisfy the GE (distribution) requirement in DS's college. So the AP credits are only useful for those students who would like to take advanced courses exclusively.</p>

<p>curmudgeon, you restated exactly what I said... Only at the same time you said you can use the AP's...</p>

<p>I already mentioned that you can use Calc AB or BC. However, that's only ONE pre-med req among bio, chem, physics, and (for Harvard and some other med schools) expository writing.</p>

<p>You just mentioned one AP that you can use and that was at one med school, you totally contradicted yourself.</p>

<p>X. Do they even have google in your town? It took me 90 seconds to find this. I won't keep doing your research for you. </p>

<p>JHU </p>

<p>Mathematics-Calculus or Statistics, one year (6 to 8 semester hours) Advanced Placement credit for calculus, acceptable to the student's undergraduate college, may be used in fulfillment of one semester of the Hopkins' math requirement.</p>

<p>College Physics with Lab, one year (8 semester hours)
Advanced Placement credit for physics, acceptable to the student's undergraduate college, may be used in fulfillment of the Hopkins' physics requirement.</p>

<p>Do the work, x. There is no substitute.</p>

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<p>In a perfect world that may be appropriate bdm, but when you are a science major -especially a double major (neither of which you were if I remember correctly - eco? ) there are simply not enough slots to take all the non-science courses you may be interested in.</p>

<p>To have to retake a calc course you self-studied for a 5 does little to make one a better doctor, IMO. Finding schools that agree that the no-AP policy is silly is not really that hard. And yes. I am picking on the calc requirement the hardest because I think it is the least defensible. ;)</p>

<p>The fact that a student may have to lop off a measured few med schools (with the emphasis on both measured and few) to take those courses (a minor in Spanish, a Religious Studies minor, whatever) is a reasonable trade-off. Just don't go lopping off too many. As always, JMO.</p>

<p>I'm a little lost, since it seems to me that non-science majors would have a harder time fulfilling their premed requirements, but in any case, I was an economics major with minors in biology and chemistry.</p>

<p>As you know better than most, bdm , a year of bio, two chem, one physics ain't that tedious. Finding 4 extra course slots for a year of calc and another year of expository writing courses (however you choose to define that) may keep at least some science pre-meds from their (admittedly grand) intended course of study at schools with a large required core, or distribution req's that also require a great number of science hours in your major. I admit to not knowing much about humanities majors and the like. They may in fact have the same schedule constraints at some schools. Not every school has a lot of "open" slots. Throw in scheduling at big state schools and small LAC's and you find yourself behind the eight-ball. </p>

<p>It's all about choices. Some of them will choose to apply to schools with less stringent requirements. Some won't, and will instead modify the courses they take to conform to largest possible number of medical schools (even though they will only apply to twenty - none of which are California publics unless they are Californians ;)). IMO both plans have value. But there isn't only one viable plan. I'd say you have exercized due diligence if you qualify yourself for a hundred or so schools of varying selectivity and choose from those. You don't have to have the pre-req's for all.</p>