AP French: Non-Natives

<p>My question is, what is it about this exam that makes people fail? AP German is very similar to AP French. True, the German prompt was not as open-ended as the French prompt…
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<p>Second question: Doesn’t Spanish have more native speakers taking it than French?</p>

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<p>Two words: The curve.</p>

<p>On behalf of the native French kids, I’d just like to say sorry for ruining the curve. BUT…even without us, I doubt that there would be a drastic change in exam scores. Some natives grew up in the US, and they can speak (slang) REALLY well…as for reading classical lit or writing a coherent essay (a difficult task even in English)…not so much. Then again, non-natives like Pi and Matt get 5s, so it’s not impossible.</p>

<p>re:mariya’s petition:

How are science and mathematics results AT ALL relevant to foreign language results?!</p>

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<p>I do believe that there are foreign language results listed in the petition, too.</p>

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<p>Don’t worry, the curve is determined by non-natives only.</p>

<p>Je ne suis pas francaise mais j’ai vecu une annee a Montreal. Je viens d’obtenir une note de 5 pour l’examen de 2010.</p>

<p>You know, if you lived in Montreal (a French-speaking city) for a year, I don’t see how you’re not native (though I imagine your skills probably eroded somewhat). Still, congratulations on being a 5! I’m curious to see the non-native grade distributions to see how many non-native 5’s there were for 2010 (I, very surprisingly, am one as well :)).</p>

<p>EDIT: POST #1000!!! :D</p>

<p>^ En fait, j’ai continue a poursuivre mes etudes en francophonie, meme apres que j’ai quitte Montreal. Connais-tu le diplome DALF C2? Je l’ai obtenu il y a seulement deux ans. :)</p>

<p>DALF C2? What on earth?</p>

<p>im not a native and i got a 5! sooo easy i thought!</p>

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<p>Do you mean that you don’t know what it is, or that you’re surprised that I got it? :p</p>

<p>I have no idea what that is.</p>

<p>Ah, I thought so. It’s not very well known outside of Europe :p</p>

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<p>I see. How would you compare the level of the C2 diploma to the level of the AP French exam?</p>

<p>The AP French exam was a piece of cake compared to that o.o I remember I had to read 3 long articles about genetically modified organisms, write a 1,000 word essay supporting my point of view on the topic, and then the oral part… <em>dies</em> Let’s just say I’m glad I passed :stuck_out_tongue: That exam is not for the faint of heart; it’s intended for native speakers (and a lot of natives fail it too).</p>

<p>So is it like *le bac<a href=“I%20think%20that’s%20what%20it’s%20called”>/i</a> that the French take at the end of high school? Or is the DALF even harder?</p>

<p>^ I think it’s comparable…</p>

<p>I thought the AP French test was challenging, but not overly difficult. I took French for 7 years (6th-12th grade, which is standard and pretty much required to take AP French in 11th or 12th grade).
I got a 5 on the test, and most kids in the class at my school receive 4s or 5s. To be fair, though, it was a very rigorous class. We did lots of in-class essays, we had a graded oral exam every few weeks, we did lots of listening tests, and had heavy reading assignments. I guess I was better prepared for the test than most people were, because it was exactly how I expected it to be.</p>

<p>Je vais suivre la classe d’AP Francais l’annee prochaine.</p>

<p>Je connais le DALF et DELF et je veux savoir si il y a une grande difference entre le DELF/DALF et le AP</p>

The Poster Above:

Je connais le DALF et DELF et je veux savoir si il y a une grande difference entre le DELF/DALF et
le AP

l’AP
just saying