Apparently Examples in Math Don't Help

<p>So I guess this article is kind of old, but I just found it today - <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/25/science/25math.html?_r=1%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/25/science/25math.html?_r=1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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The students who learned the math abstractly did well with figuring out the rules of the game. Those who had learned through examples using measuring cups or tennis balls performed little better than might be expected if they were simply guessing. Students who were presented the abstract symbols after the concrete examples did better than those who learned only through cups or balls, but not as well as those who learned only the abstract symbols.

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<p>Although this makes perfect sense to me, I was just curious what other people thought about this. Especially since one of the biggest complaints I hear about math is that it's not applicable to the real world.</p>

<p>Makes sense…not really a surprise to me. I always thought that the “real world” examples were just for the dumb kids anyway…</p>

<p>Real world examples should be for motivation. They have their places, but I don’t think they do a lot to teach the actual material.</p>

<p>The biggest problems that I see with the study are that different types of math might lend themselves to different teaching techniques and that college students might benefit from having more experience with mathematical symbols. It would be interesting to know what exactly they were taught.</p>

<p>Someone should post this in the parents forum, as I’m sure some of them will have something to add. </p>

<p>I’ll do it.</p>

<p>Dude, no, examples are integral for me, personally, to learn stuff…</p>

<p>I prefer the generalised abstraction.</p>

<p>There’s nothing wrong with using real-world exercises for practice. That’s what examples are for - practice. However, practice is worthless unless you know what you are doing. Otherwise you just end up burning the wrong method into your mind.</p>

<p>In order to actually teach mathematics, you need to explore the reasons why a concept works. I’ve found that it’s easy to memorize formulas and then apply them successfully after seeing the proofs because you understand what the formula actually does.</p>

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<p>Funny story: I used to never use the quadratic formula. One time I decided to program the completing the square process into my calculator. I ended up with the quadratic formula.</p>

<p>I use the quadratic formula a lot more now (relatively I guess, I don’t remember the last time I had to find the roots of a quadratic).</p>

<p>^To derive the quadratic formula, you complete the square with ax^2+bx+c=0</p>

<p>Didn’t I just say that?</p>

<p>Brings back memories of being 8… yeah I prefer abstract generalized form.</p>

<p>I thank my schools for introducing simple algebraic concepts in 4th grade.</p>

<p>Real world examples make it harder for me to learn than non-real, though I can definitely see why others might find it easier. Perhaps it is fine to show at least one real world example for some sort of math lesson just to show people why they’re learning it, how it’ll help them in life, and adding motivation to learn it. </p>

<p>My pre-calc teacher once said to our class during a lesson</p>

<p>“If you are a rocket scientist then you might use this in your life, if not, then you are only learning it to make a good grade in my class.”</p>

<p>^ My Teacher said the same thing for logarithms.</p>

<p>I loved that unit.</p>

<p>Aww snap. I’m a Montessori kid. I’m married to examples. I learned numbers with beads, squares, with well, squares, and cubes with (you guessed it!) cubes. We learned addition and subtraction with the stamp game, and well, the other algebraic properties were just built off of those two. Outside of math, I was 100% certain that nouns were large black triangles and that prepositions were green bananas. I don’t think I learned anything without a concrete example or symbol until I was, maybe, 9, and even then, those were few and far between.</p>

<p>I always frigging hated word problems and applications though. Montessori blocks are concrete, but I have never run into a [url=&lt;a href=“http://i.ehow.com/images/a04/a1/dp/teach-multiplication-carrying-using-montessori-200X200.jpg]thousand-cube[/url”&gt;http://i.ehow.com/images/a04/a1/dp/teach-multiplication-carrying-using-montessori-200X200.jpg]thousand-cube[/url</a>] outside of school in my life.</p>

<p>Word problems were my specialty growing up. I always thought they were easy.</p>

<p>I used to hate them because my teacher made us write out statements about what each number was and I hated writing anything.</p>

<p>^Ok let’s be frank here, everything until high school had little to no difficulty.</p>

<p>^ Let’s be frank here everything in high school had little to no difficulty.</p>

<p>^ I can agree with that only up to 10th grade, since the last 2 years are upcoming.</p>

<p>^ Calculus is not hard, it’s memorizing a few rules and learning how to apply them. You’ll see this for yourself soon enough.</p>