<p>Have you guys heard about ABC? It's basically a camp that helps you to finish your app. the summer before your senior year. The results are more than stellar, but what are the meanings of the numbers before and after the "/"? Is it worth it to spend the money and time at this Application Boot Camp?</p>
<p>god that really ****es me off. so unfair for kids who don’t have the money to afford that and have to work on their applications all by themselves.</p>
<p>Notice how few applicants/acceptances to Princeton and Harvard (1/1:1/2). She obviously is very careful about where she “lets” applicants apply. By encouraging her students to apply only to schools they are qualified for, there is far less rejection.</p>
<p>Even with the high cost of the service, she is not able to turn an average applicant into a top Ivy admittee. The customers may get a nudge, but it not a huge boost.</p>
<p>The troubling issue seems to be when an academic consultant begins early in the student’s life (9th gr.) to force them into activities for the sole purpose of admissions, pushing them to ignore their own passions for something more unique and attention -getting. (Pole-vaulting rather than baseball for example.)</p>
<p>I know several kids who’ve benefited from the program. Be careful when looking at the stats, what may be your first choice college going in may not be what’s considered your first choice after the Hernandez reality check.</p>
<p>I actually do believe it can be a very big boost for an otherwise qualified candidate. What a good counselor does well is show you how to differentiate you from the pack effectively in ways that are not apparent to most. What it’s not is a way for an unqualified candidate to get in.</p>
<p>So basically how the applicants from ABC were accepted to the schools that they applied to? I only see a couple 1/2 and 4/5 which means the colleges only denied 1 applicant out of one and five, respectively?<br>
Anyway, i think most of the kids go there are the affluent kids from NE prep shcools, that’s probably why the acceptance rate at some selective colleges are pretty high.</p>
<p>I think nothing is fair in life…</p>
<p>$14,000 is a lot of money.</p>
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so unfair for kids who don’t have the money to afford that and have to work on their applications all by themselves.
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There’s much to parse in this statement, including the notion (perhaps prevalent these days) that working on an application by oneself is somehow an unfair burden.</p>
<p>Take heart, though, Lantern. Kids whose families can spend $14k on college consulting and gain admission to the college of their choice… will be subsidizing the educations of other students through full-freight tuition and federal taxes that fund Pell grants, education tax credits they don’t qualify for, and a host of other need-based federal education grants.</p>
<p>Anyway, only like 0.1% of the college applicants will be willing to spend like over 20k on college consulting, which is a tiny portion comparing to the # of applicants who apply.</p>
<p>20k for college consulting?</p>
<p>there is something seriously wrong here.</p>
<p>The guys who go here get in because Daddy just gave the school a new building. Honestly what can this random lady teach us that we cannot do ourselves. Reminds me of how Dr. Phill is more of a drama than a psychiatric show. Maybe if I get a degree from a community college I’ll start charging daddy’s kids an arm and a leg for a program that works independently of what it provides. Sad that people who don’t really have brains or smarts can work like this and provide something that does not work because of his/her work.</p>
<p>If daddy gave a building, their services are not necessary. Principal, you are headed to an elite prep school where most of your classmates will want to get into the same dozen colleges. Only a few of you who are not legacies or athletes will make it in. These folks will be hired to up the odds for some and they know what they’re doing.</p>
<p>Wow…Just wow…</p>
<p>Consumerism has just reached a new level.</p>
<p>I have seen this crap before, or similar crap. Maybe this SPECIFIC program is not crap, but those of this creed does not help. If you can pay a whopping 20k for a program such as this, I am SURE you can do better things with it (rather than go to this camp). Is there some science to this application process? Also, with resources such as CC why do we need this? As someone else said, to make her program look better she will (no doubt) tell a kid with a 2100 not to apply to any ivies. </p>
<p>With 20k dollars, you can make a MEMORABLE volunteering service thing your junior year. If you do it right, it will help your application far more than this camp. There are a few camps of such expense (well, 11k), and the results do not really differ from those who go as opposed to those who do not. </p>
<p>With twenty thousand dollars one can start a huge fund raising campaign, using the 20k as a spark to get it going. Not only will this help pad your application more than some camp, it will actually help others.</p>
<p>I would like to see the distribution of this money, not as if this lady is smart or anything.</p>
<p>Well… if you have the money to blow, why not eh? Some people don’t have enough things to spend money on. </p>
<p>However, if your parents may be hesitating because of possible financial aid difficulties, but they want the best for you, then try to convince them that you can work well alone and that the best application comes from yourself.</p>
<p>^By the time the 20k becomes just “eh” to you I bet you can donate a few buildings and maybe a new tech center to MIT. The point being, we (and many people) can afford this program… There is SO much better use of it though. I hope no one thinks that twenty grand is immaterial, I don’t care if you are Gates’ son. Twenty thousand is enough to feed 800 children full medical support for the first year of their life.</p>
<p>so is it advisable to hire a mentor/professional to help you with your application/admissions process?</p>
<p>Yeah if 20k/salary = 0, then sure. But that’s impossible, so no.</p>
<p>Take my advice with a grain of salt.</p>
<p>Most of the people sending their kids to these programs have spent much more than $20K per year on their kids’ educations since pre school. Between private school costs, summer programs, educational travel, tutors, test prep…that last $20K is a drop in the bucket to bring the program full circle.</p>
<p>These folks hire the best accountants to do their taxes, the best financial advisors to advise them on investments, the best gardeners to tend their estates and the best of just about everything. Are they really going to leave getting their kids into their college of choice to less than the best?</p>
<p>I guess not… I guess I should know better, considering my neighbors fall in this category. Private education adds something, though. While I cannot say I am going to prep school purely on intrinsic motivations, it is not fully extrinsic either.</p>