Application Decision Question?

<p>I finished my application on August 15th and submitted all my materials by mid October (had to retake the ACT). Does this mean I applied to late? Does this mean I have a smaller chance of being admitted. I applied to the college of science and engineering. Here are my stats:</p>

<p>G.P.A: 3.67 W Didn't do the best junior year, but in tri 3 i got 4 A's, 1 A-, and 1 B
Class Rank: Top 11% 51/435
Class course load: By graduation I will have taken 9 AP and honors courses.(Also, I am enrolled in Principles of Engineering, a Project Lead the Way course)
Test Score: ACT score of 26 composite Its bad, I know)
English: 28
Math: 27
Reading: 23
Science: 25
Extracurricular activities:
-Orchestra(Freshmen and sophomore year)
-Tennis(sophomore year)
Volunteer Work:
I have done service for Feed My Starving Children. Only 16 hours.
Work Experience:
I have worked at burger king all of Junior year, so 7 or 6 months. I am currently looking for a job.</p>

<p>A little Bio:
I am a African American male who lives in Minnesota. I attend an average school. I live in a single parent household in a family of 4(Me, brother, mom, and grandmother.) We do not get child support from our father. I do qualify for Free lunch at school. My brother has ADHD. I also might have it(although I am not sure of the symptoms) because lately I have a had a hard time concentrating on my school work. I had another brother who died of leukemia when I was around 5 or 6.(Recently, my moms bank account was emptied by the credit card company because she used that card a decade ago to pay for my brother who died's treatment)</p>

<p>Don’t worry, my application was also completed around the same time as yours. Anyway I doubt that you can make it to CSE; the competition is fierce and a lot of applicants have better stats than you (no offense). Did you also apply for another college, say CLA for example. I think with your stats, you will have a better chance at CLA.
Good luck!</p>

<p>‘lately I have a had a hard time concentrating on my school work.’ Might not be as serious as ADHD. More likely senioritis, if it’s just lately.</p>

<p>There is equal consideration for applications submitted before December 15, at least that’s what the admissions counselor said when I visited.</p>

<p>Yeah…I pretty much knew I wasn’t going to get in. :(</p>

<p>roinujo1 - </p>

<p>No one can figure out exactly how the admissions people make their decisions. If you don’t get into CSE, it is still possible to apply from CLA as an internal transfer after you have completed the CSE requirements. This is can be tricky because you will have to take the CSE coursework and then if you don’t get in, you may have to take additional courses to fulfill a different major.</p>

<p>I like how your 3rd trimester grades went up…so keep working hard this fall! Even though there are some struggles at home, it is impressive that you are moving along toward you dream. Regardless of what college you attend, you will be successful if you keep up the same positive attitude and good work ethic. Good luck and stay strong!</p>

<p>Is their any way to change my major even if I submitted my application or is it final?</p>

<p>Anyone…?</p>

<p>Do you mean change colleges? Like going from CSE to CLA? I believe that answer is no. If the U accepts a person and doesn’t slot them into CSE/CBS or Carlson, historically they have put them into CLA or education. </p>

<p>As for changing your major, you “declare” an intended major when you are with your advisor registering for classes. Once you have satisfied the required coursework, then you declare your final major.</p>

<p>I am kind of confused. I guess i want to understand the admission process. So, if I dont get in to CSE, does this mean I am rejected from UMN-Twin Cities as a whole? Thanks for the response!!</p>

<p>On your application, you were able to request multiple majors. So for example, if your 1st major was in the CSE and you’re denied acceptance, they will look at your 2nd, 3rd, etc. major and see if you meet the criteria of the college that major is in, and will admit you into that college.</p>

<p>If I were you, I would call the U of M admissions and request a 2nd or 3rd major in another college, then you will have an easier chance of getting into the U of M if you don’t get into the CSE. I did a similar thing a couple months ago. Hope this helps!</p>

<p>roinujo1 - The university is made up of several different colleges (CSE. CBS, CSOM, CLA. etc) On your app you specified your desired major so the university will either accept or reject you from the college that offers that major. examples - Some people apply to CSE and get in. Some apply to CSE and on their acceptance letter it shows that while they were not accepted to CSE they were still accepted to CLA. Some apply to CSE and are rejected totally from the entire university.</p>

<p>So, should I call the U? I’m still a little confused. I applied for biomedical engineering and secondly, biochemistry. So, does this mean I have no chance of getting in?</p>

<p>When in doubt, call the admissions folks. Couple of years ago when my son applied, we found the admissions persons were very easy to deal with. </p>

<p>Keep in mind, that in general, one can change majors provided s/he has fulfilled requirements such as meeting/exceeding the college’s required GPA, done well in key prerequisite subjects, and in some cases passing an interview to assess why one is seeking entry into the desired major. You may want to clarify it with the admissions. </p>

<p>Do not slack off in the final year of school; you need a strong work ethic (study habits) to do well in college. Good luck.</p>

<p>Thanks Trinity. It sucks because I only applied to CSE because I was interested at that time in STEM. Now, I am interested in things in CLA. I really want to attend the U. Should I tell them that when I call tomorrow? Also, here is my senior classes for the first trimester:

  1. English 12
  2. Effective Study
  3. AP Calculus AB
  4. High Performance Physics
  5. Principles of Engineering(Project Lead the Way)
  6. Positive Leadersip</p>

<p>What does your online admissions status indicate? Hopefully the admissions have received all the required official documents, such as your school transcripts (with school profile), ACT scores etc. If you are still confused about your admissions status, please call the admissions office, introduce yourself, provide your id #, politely ask them anything about your admissions matters that you are not clear about. </p>

<p>It is quite normal for freshmen to change their majors after they are exposed to vast choices & opportunities in college. Earlier one decides about his/her major, sooner will one graduate.</p>

<p>In case if you had not indicated CLA as one of your choices earlier on your application, ask them if you are allowed to make the choice post application; if yes, ask them the procedure as to how you would go about indicating your choice. It is quite likely that you will be assigned CLA, should they determine that your application is appropriate for CLA. </p>

<p>In the worst case scenario, the admissions may put you on a waiting list, in which case, if you do well in the first semester of your senior year in high school, you can send your updated school transcripts, and indicate your eagerness in attending. The admissions folks do want to admit appropriate (motivated & qualified) minority students. </p>

<p>Most of the things will become clear after you had a conversation with the admissions personnel.</p>

<p>Also, ask your high school guidance counsellor about the statistics of students from your high school who were admitted to Minnesota in the last couple of years. It will give you additional information about the likelihood of your admissions.</p>

<p>Thanks for the response. Yes, all my materials are submitted. Also, the umn have 2 of my ACT scores. Is this a good thing? In June, I got a 24. I retook the the test in September and got a 26. Will this hurt me or will this help me. Also, thank you for the advise. I really hope everything works out.</p>

<p>UMn will consider ACT score of 26. Not sure if they super score. Don’t believe earlier lower score will hurt. UMn admissions do consider family hardship in their evaluation. (secondary factors)</p>

<p>[Admission</a> Info - Admission Overview](<a href=“http://admissions.tc.umn.edu/admissioninfo/fresh_requirements.html]Admission”>http://admissions.tc.umn.edu/admissioninfo/fresh_requirements.html)</p>

<p>Don’t feel bad if, despite hardships, you are able to get 26 on ACT. The average ACT score of all students from Minnesota in 2012 (the latest reported year) was 22.8 (Table 1.2)
<a href=“http://www.act.org/newsroom/data/2012/pdf/profile/Minnesota.pdf[/url]”>http://www.act.org/newsroom/data/2012/pdf/profile/Minnesota.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Note there is a strong correlation between parents’ income and the students’ test scores. Upper middle class/rich students, by and large, get better scores. It is likely that the students have better financial access to coaching classes, live in nicer neighborhoods that have better schools/teachers, have more conducive home environment for studying, parents may have higher expectation, and may nudge their kids to pay closer attention etc. </p>

<p>However, it is up to the students to be very knowledgeable in the subjects they have taken in high school, and require little or no additional academic preparation for transitioning into college. Otherwise, it will be difficult to graduate in 4 years.</p>

<p>I emailed one of the admission counselors and here is what they told me:</p>

<p>“We review students college choices in the order that they have listed on the application. If by chance we weren’t able to offer them admission to their first and second choice college, we would review you for an additional college based on your academic preparation and interests”</p>

<p>Also, I would like to know if any of you think that the UMN admissions officers will look at individual scores on the ACT? I did good on the English and math sections(28 and 27 respectively) but failed at the reading(23 likely brought my score down). And isn’t reading the most subjective score? It’s really hard for me to read with a time limit. I have always had to read texts more than once to understand what is going on.</p>