<p>Hey, I was just wondering if and when everyone is applying. I just sent out my application yesterday for Elon in Fall of 2008, and I would love to hear of other people applying!!!</p>
<p>I applied about a month ago and I got an email back from Elon yesterday saying that I still need to send my App. Fees, Essay, Counselor Evaluation, Transcript, and SAT scores. I sent my fees and my essay with the application... Maybe there was some mistake???</p>
<p>I'm auditioning on Oct. 26th! Woohoo! Only 27 days left :/</p>
<p>Thats really weird. I did an online application and sent in my transcript and counsler eval stuff but ihaven't heard anything back yet. I'm not auditioning until November 16th but i can not wait. </p>
<p>Does anyone happen to know how long the wait is for the admissions office to mail out their desicions?</p>
<p>If you did early action you don't find out if you got in until December 20th.</p>
<p>I applied EA but I had to change my SAT retest date to Nov. 3rd, and the deadline for all EA stuff is Nov. 10th. So should I let my application roll into the regular decision or should I send them my old SAT scores for now, then send them the updated ones later? I only got a 1680 on it last time and I didn't understand the SAT rules well enough, so I can do much better</p>
<p>I have the same problem. I'm applying early action (Nov. 10th) and and paid to send my SATs score before I took the test on Oct 6. I didn't want to cancel them in case I did better, but my ACTs score are much stronger. Does anyone know how to have the school ignore the SAT scores if I decide they're still too low.</p>
<p>one more question..when do you find out if you're accepted/denied into the MT or acting program? My audition is nov. 16th</p>
<p>I think it's about two weeks after the final fall audition. You will get a yes no or maybe.</p>
<p>Do I understand you correctly that they will give us a yes, no or maybe to the MT program in December, or will we have to wait until Spring to know? D has audition Nov. 16- has already visited and loves it! Met some great people- She has several other auditions lined up, but Elon is definitely her first choice...Knowing in December would sure be a relief to know how to proceed...</p>
<p>Mesmom - yes, your D will find out in December :-)</p>
<p>However, I believe one of the possible outcomes in December is to be deferred. That means you are still in the running but will have to wait until spring until they have seen the rest of the auditions. You also could be rejected or accepted in December, as well.</p>
<p>If I am in error, an Elon person here hopefully will correct me.</p>
<p>I emailed Catherine McNeela about this last month and her email said, "Everyone who auditions in the Fall will receive a Yes, No or a Maybe." If you get a "maybe" you find out the final response in March according to Kimberly Rippy, the auditions coordinator. </p>
<p>And mesmom- I'll be there November 16th too!</p>
<p>"My bad", I was actually merely responding to whether or not mesmom would hear "something" in December; as soozievt pointed out (and BruceWayne 5148 too) this can of course imply that in case of a deferral (may be) you would still have to wait until March.</p>
<p>My son just started his freshman year at Elon as an MT major and is loving it.
He asked me to pass on some info. to possible Elon applicants here at CC. Some of the current students have started a group at facebook where they will answer questions. The group is elonprospectivestudents: performing arts I want to wish all applicants the best of luck with all of their auditions!</p>
<p>I have seen people refer to getting a response from the fall auditions and I wondered what a "maybe" means. Do they put many students on the wait list? If my D gets a "maybe" should I encourage her to be hopeful or encourage her to actively think of other places?</p>
<p>Glad you liked Elon. Why don't you wait to see what she gets in the letter, because I'm not sure that very many maybe's are sent out? I think if my child got a maybe, I'd continue to encourage that they look at and audition for other schools. A maybe doesn't seem very certain to me. We've known people for which it has gone both ways - some got in and some didn't.</p>
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<p>First, it is important to clarify the terminology here. Perhaps Elon or those who refer to Elon, use the word "Maybe" but the term is not interchangeable with the admissions term of "wait list" but rather is more synonymous with the admissions term: "deferral." For schools that have Early Decision or Early Action cycles, a deferral (in this case referred to as a "maybe") is where the acceptance decision on the applicant is not made early but "deferred" to be made with all Regular Decision applicants, after all auditions are completed by spring. Deferral does not mean rejection or acceptance. It basically means the candidate is still in the running and a decision has not yet been rendered. The school is holding onto some candidates from the early round until they see the entire group of appllicants and then will decide. A deferral is positive insofar as not yet being denied. Usually, some deferrals ("maybes") may make the acceptance pile in spring and some will be eventually denied acceptance. Simply, those who get a deferral/maybe just have not had their decisions rendered early on but are still under consideration. </p>
<p>This is NOT the same as the term "wait list". Applicants are assigned to the wait list when FINAL acceptances and rejections go out in spring. A wait list is developed as sorta "on hold" in case those who are accepted do not fill up the available slots. A college tries to predict their yield of how many will actually matriculate out of those offered acceptance but it is not an exact science. Let's say a school wants 16 freshman MT students and accepts 24 to yield 16 (I am making these numbers up and they are not specific to Elon). The school based the needed number of acceptances to yield their desired class size based on trends from previous years' yields. So, let's say that only 14 students of the 24 given an offer, decide to matriculate. That leaves 2 slots unfilled. At that point (which often is after May 1 when deposits and intent to enroll are due), the school may go to their wait list and accept two people off it (or more) until they can fill the remaining two slots. Some years they may utilize the wait list and other years, if the yield is high, they may not need to go to the wait list as they already built in extra acceptances to yield their optimum number of matriculants. Again, this is NOT the same as a deferral/maybe in the early round which is BEFORE all the final acceptances and rejections have been rendered. The maybe/deferral is just "still in the running" until all have been evaluated. </p>
<p>Now, I can't tell from your post but is this the only school your D has applied to? I sincerely hope not. No BFA candidates should have just one school, nor should they have their heart narrowly set on one specific school when the odds are this difficult at any one school. It is natural to have some favorites. However, it is critical to find many schools that match several of your personal college criteria and to be open to the many options out there. Wanting one certain school can be a set up for disappointment. The goal should be to get into a program that is a good fit and many programs can be a good fit. Once acceptances are in hand, one can afford to pick and choose the most optimal fit among the hand that is dealt. If a favorite school lands in that pile, it is like an extra plus. But the goal should be more broadly defined in such a competitive process. </p>
<p>Your D should have other apps in the works now and other auditions getting lined up. She should put equal effort and attention into each application and each audition. If she happens to get a deferral at Elon.....she can see it as still in the running and not accepted or denied but in the pile with the Regular Decision applicants who will find out in spring and to not treat it any differently than other schools where she is in the running at present. If denied early on, then she'll have that decision in hand. It dosn't mean she won't get in at other schools though! If accepted early on and that's her favorite and she is certain of it...she can cancel other apps and auditions, though it can't hurt to do some other favorites to compare/contrast and students' minds can change over the next six months. That would be a personal choice, of course.</p>
<p>Soozie has stated accurately the way academic admissions work, which is similar to Elon's MT process. Please note that Elon has separate academic admissions (that work exactly like the above post) and MT admissions. One must have both acceptances to be in the MT program at Elon.</p>
<p>The person who questioned this may be referring to the MT letter that goes out in Dec. - that people have been calling "yes, no, or maybe". This is different from and not tied to the academic admission (except that if you get a yes from MT, it is contingent upon academic acceptance). What I've seen, from people we know, is a very small amount of MT yes letters in Dec. (I'm forever grateful that my son got one of these), very many no letters in Dec., and a handful of maybes. I believe the MT maybe letters are possibly called "wait list", although in reality it is a deferral that works very similarly to the academic deferral that Soozie talked about above. That MT maybe letter means that you will be considered and will get a letter in the spring after they have all the audiitions in Jan. - March. We have probably known equal amounts of people who got in MT vs. did not get in with the spring round after a maybe in Dec. Separate from this, last year we also heard of a wait list after the spring acceptance letters went out. This is a true wait list that would work like Soozie describes. It means you only get in if all of their expected spots are not filled. Last year, I believe they had more people say yes to coming to Elon than they expected, and no one from this wait list got in.</p>
<p>Thank you for the detailed replies. Although this is not the only school, it is the only strictly audition school to which she is applying. Cost, distance and fit impacted that decision. She has other schools that will allow her to continue to pursue MT. It was interesting to me what a "numbers" game it is for admissions into these programs. Hearing people discuss their plans for upwards of 19 auditions (and no, not all at Unifieds) made me realize that we may be out of our league financially. Fortunately my D is aware of these very real limitations and knows she can realize her dream through many different paths. Thanks, again, for the response. It is especially informative to know that only a few wait list/deferral/maybe responses will go out. Having been through that process in the past (in the very competitive academic setting) I know how disheartening it can be. A no is sometimes easier to take!</p>
<p>It really is as Ericsmom has also clarified. It is just that Elon's MT deferrals in the early round are sometimes called "maybes" and some even refer to it as a "wait list" but in essence it is truly what is considered a deferral for admittance into the MT Program, to be considered with the rest of the applicants still to audition. Sometimes a deferral can feel agonizing as you still have to wait but if you look on the plus side, you are still in the running and haven't yet been rejected. My D auditioned at one school on the early side (Early Action) and was admitted to the college itself and deferred for the BFA program. Like Elon, the deferral pile was small. In April, she was not admitted to the program. A friend from our own high school who had the same Dec. result she did at the same college, got into the BFA in April. Lucky for her as she only applied to two schools and the first was an ED to Tisch to which she was rejected and then she got into this other school. My D got into Tisch and not the BFA part of this other school. That also is an inkling of how it can go. </p>
<p>Attending auditions is expensive, no doubt about it. For those who cannot pay the travel fee, Unifieds is the best option as for the price of having attending Elon for an audition (from New England), one could attend Unifieds in NYC and audition at several schools, to increase the odds of a BFA admissions IF that is the desired degree program. However, a BA path is certainly a viable path for someone interested in this field. There are less BA in MT schools but there are some and also there are some BA in Theater schools with adequate MT opportunities. By the way, I frankly feel 19 schools or auditions are too many. Most applicants, depending on various individualized needs, should be able to fall in a continuim of 8-12 schools, in my opinion. </p>
<p>Also, as Ericsmom points out, schools like Elon that have an early action round or rolling admissions to their MT Program, tend to accept very few in the early round as they want to leave plenty of room in the class as the bulk of auditions are still to come. So, the early round can be helpful if you get an early denial, you know already or if you get a deferral, you have made a cut and are in the running and if you are the lucky few who are accepted so soon, you have one in your pocket and it sure is a nice position to be in this early in the season!</p>