Yeah, but even though paying in state tuition would really help, I’m still determined to find another way to pay for it.
What is your real objective? To go to those 2 schools u mentioned? To go to school in those particular cities? To go to school in CA? To get out of WA? Or to just get away from home?
For out of state options, it’s often cheaper to consider PRIVATE schools. The give financial aid regardless of state of residency.
What is wrong with the state schools? Did you already get accepted at least a safety? Merit is out, right?
If you are determined then the best route is to move here without school at first. Establish residency and get a job. Then you can apply for instate after a year or two is preferable. Otherwise you aren’t going to get it. And if your parents are not going to pay, then who is going to pay your first year? If you start as a freshman first and are filing FAFSA as a dependent, which you are required to do until you are 24, married or in the military etc, you will never get instate rates, Never even if your parents don’t contribute to college.
I know someone who is starting at community college here and will transfer to UC or CSU and she is 20, she is able to get instate and financial aid because she got a dependency override from the college. That is because she has been out on her own since she was 15, living with various friends families and then on her own here sunce 18 yo with a job.
I looked into this for Florida and pretty much the only way is to have some other reason than school so if you really want to do this I suggest you move out and move to California, therefore not being a dependent of your parents get a job and get a drivers license from California. I believe this is your best chance to achieve in state residency although it’s very hard to do.
Well, that is not an option for me. Being an independent since 15 or 16 years of age, as required by the law to become a resident, seems kind of ridiculous to me. Sine this is a requirement, I cannot become a resident. I will have to rely on grants and loans, as well as getting a job, to pay for college. And I know I’ll be in debt after I graduate but that’s life and I can get through it.
It’s unrealistic to expect to borrow that huge amt of money to attend a CA public university OOS. I wd start looking a PRIVATE universities where u wd qualify for FA.
Heck, what’s so magical about CSULB or CSUF anyway?
By my calculations, I could earn about 10,000 from my job. I’m probably eligible for the Pell Grant and at maximum, it’s about 5,500 a year. I’m also expecting my EFC to be 0 which would qualify me for another grant which is at maximum, 4,000 a year. Assuming (maybe a bad thing to do) I get these grants and earn 10k a year while in school, that’s 78K/120K that I don’t have to pay back. And I qualify for financial aid, maybe just not the FA granted by the school. Then, I will apply for scholarships and loans.
And why does it matter? I kind of annoys me that people care about where I want to go college. It’s my decision. If I see something that I like about these schools, why does that concern you?
Rather than be rude & hostile to people who mean well, it would behoove u to try to listen.
I don’t care what school u go to. I am only trying to point out that the schools u have picked are likely unaffordable for u. Ive asked u what is it about these schools u like, to get u to look at schools w similar location/attributes, which may be more affordable. So stop being an as$.
U mention all these grants and financial aid u expect to get bcs your EFC is zero. U qualify for pell & federal loans, but what makes u think CSU’s are going to give FA to OOS students? How are u going to continue to earn 10k/yr when u are a fulltime student?
@GMTplus7
Maybe he is URM?
@simba514, you will be required to pay EFC + Max loan amount ($5,500 freshman year, increasing each year to about $7,500 senior year) + $2,500 to $3,500 work-study + out-of-state premium. The school and federal government will give you scholarships and grants to make up (most of) the rest.
A private school would cost the same, except without the out-of-state premium that Cal States charge. So, with an EFC of $0, a private school that meets full need would be less costly than going to a CSU. I don’t think anyone is trying to be judgmental about your choice; just wondering why you would choose to pay more to go into a public school system.
@bomerr, do OOS URMs get exemptions from the out-of-state premium for CSUs?
I don’t plan on doing a work study. I plan on working off-campus, actually. At about 9/hr, 20 hours a week (full time in the summer) I would be making about 10k a year. My sister actually goes to college full time and has a part time job. She’s been doing it for 3-4 years so it is possible. With the pell grant, I’d get about 22k in total for 4 years. With another grant through the federal government but given at certain colleges like CSULB (Federal Supplemental Educational Opportunity Grant (FSEOG)) I’d get about 16k total for 4 years. This is when I either apply for scholarships and/or loans such as the Stafford and Perkins loans.
Also, I’ve looked into private universities. Most of them are religiously affiliated and actually more expensive. While I am Christian, I found that the educational opportunities are better at these state schools. I like the location, campus, school size, weather, and CSUF has a great business program. So there you have it.
Also, I am female and not URM. Although, I’m not even sure what that is, so…
@GMTplus7
no clue, i know AB540 URMs can get full-ride scholarships, so it might be worth applying even as OOS.
@simba,
http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/17994858/#Comment_17994858
The reason there are so few OOS students admitted to CSUF & CSULB is that few OOS students even bother applying, bcs it is not worth paying the OOS fees, when private schools offer a better deal for OOS applicants.
I see that these are the only 2 schools u applied to. Would be PRUDENT to apply to some in-state WA schools where u would qualify for FA. You’ve missed this year’s deadline for most private schools.
Just wondering where you are going to find these off-campus jobs?
Students have a hard time finding jobs in California because there are so many adults, who are not students, looking for work who go for the “unskilled” jobs.
My DD had a rough time finding a job for 2 summers/years. Where will you find one? You are making a lot of assumptions about California. Where will you live in the summers? Our rents are outrageous; did you plan on paying rent and utilities in the summer? Your rent plus utilities and food, in the LA and Long Beach area, will run about $1500 to $2000 per month.
So your school charges would be about $34K. If you received a Pell grant and a federal grant, that’s roughly 11K, at the most. Where will you get the rest of the money-roughly $23K? There are no guarantees on jobs or rents. And, because you are coming to California for educational purposes, all 4 years will be at the OOS rate.
I don’t want to go to a private school…like I just said for a couple of reasons.
I was actually thinking Disneyland. My brother works at Disney world. He applied through the college program and was hired as a seasonal worker. Also, after freshman year, if I find enough people, I would likely rent and apartment with 2 or 3 other girls. I don’t know that I’m making assumptions. I just have a plan.
Disneyland has a program but it is very difficult to enter because of their limited spaces and only certain California colleges/universities are linked to that program. My daughter tried, and her friends who attend UCLA also tried, but Disneyland has hiring limits, they are not as big as Disney World. Plus, Disneyland’s attendance is down, so their seasonal workers are usually repeat local California kids who have worked there since high school. Given the latest measles scare, their attendance is going to be affected.
Also, Disneyland is in Anaheim so you would have to commute from Long Beach or Fullerton, and the only way to do that is to travel by car on our plethora of freeways. Public transportation in California is awful, so you would need a reliable car, lots of time, patience and lots of gas money.
Some California universities don’t allow Freshman or other students to have cars because the land is so valuable and the parking spaces for students isn’t available. It is expensive to live, drive and work in California.
It doesn’t sound like your parents can help you with your expenses and, it doesn’t sound like you are prepared to pay OOS fees and pay rent here, so I don’t think you have thought out all of the ramifications of living in California as a non-resident and paying $136K over 4 years. I hope you applied in your state for back-ups.
I am aware. I have done the research. I will be bringing my car. It’s actually only 16 minutes from Fullerton to Anaheim.