<p>advantage or disadvantage? Do they accept a lot of OOS kids because they might pay that full massive tuition?</p>
<p>And why is UIUC mainly all instate?</p>
<p>OOS and in-state are evaluated for admission based on same factors, neither advantage nor disadvantage. Don’t really admit “more” OOS to get OOS tuition but what I said in first sentence exists partly because of the extra money. About 85% to 90% of those admitted are in-state because about 85% to 90% of those who apply are in-state.</p>
<p>All the Chicago metropolitan applicants are in-state, and there are tons of them. And if they get in, UofI is generally cheaper than comparable OOS schools, so it makes a lot of sense that their class is comprised of so many Illinoisians. This is similar with UC schools (similar percentage as well). They get all the California applicants (a ton) and it is cheaper for California applicants to go there.</p>
<p>U of I has a great engineering program and a solid business program that attracts many top students from the Chicagoland area.</p>
<p>U of I intentially keeps the percentage of out of state low. Last year they talked about raising the percentage of out of state students and there was a big public outcry. Among big ten schools, U of I has one of the lowest if not the lowest percentage of out of state students. U of I is also the second most costly school in the big ten for in state students.Penn State is the most expensive. U of I runs about $26,000 for in state. U of Kansas is around $30,000 for OOS as a comparison. By the way, I am in suburban Chicago. My son did not apply to U of I–will be going to USC.</p>
<p>msheft, I’m in a suburb of Chicago and will be attending USC as well. Also, U of I’s tuition is actually more around 30k-31k if the student is admitted to business or engineering.</p>
<p>Other threads suggested that a lot of Illinois kids are going to OOS universities such as U of Wisconsin because they think UIUC is too “same old same old.” If this is true, why is it basically all instate?</p>
<p>The fact that it’s only 5-10% out of state scares me. Would that mean that only 5-10% of OOS applicants get admitted?</p>
<p>LoonLake: U of I intentially wants to keep the number of OOS students at 10%. For the school year 2008-2009, it ended up about 17%. Because of the small number of OOS, yes it is harder to get in if you are OOS. U of Wisconsin has always drawn a large number of Illinois kids (especially Chicago are) since the 60s and even before then. It isn’t necessarily the “same old same old”, though you would have to ask students about that. The cost for in-state approaches the cost of OOS for some OOS schools. Remember, the Chicago metro area has a huge population. There are significant numbers of students that end up at Iowa, Wisconsin, Purdue, Indiana, Northwestern, Chicago, Northern Ill, Southern Ill.</p>
<p>Both of you make valid points. Part of the reason I don’t want to go to U of I is because literally 1/4 of my graduating class is going to go there. However, U of I is trying to intentionally keep the number of OOS students down.</p>
<p>“The fact that it’s only 5-10% out of state scares me. Would that mean that only 5-10% of OOS applicants get admitted?”</p>
<p>No, you are evaluating the math incorrectly. About 10% to 15% per year of all those admitted are OOS (including international). However, only 10% to 15% of those who apply are OOS (including interantional). Thus, they are admitted at about same rate as in-state. Example, if 85% who apply are in-state and 15% are OOS and you admit both of those groups at a 65% rate, you will end up with 85% of those admitted being in-state and 15% OOS.</p>
<p>Incorrect above that UIUC intentionally keeps percentage of OOS low. It is low simply because the percentage who apply OOS is low. A couple of years ago they proposed increasing the percentage of OOS (including international) that were admitted. That was a suggesttion made to actually increase the admit rate for OOS to be higher than the admit rate for in-state with the stated basis being that it would bring in needed extra income because of the higher tuition. That caused legislators and the public to scream. However, it was designed to do just that as it was part of an effort to get legislators to appropriate more money. Unfortunately, the ploy did not work since government appropriations have not increased on a percentage of total cost basis.</p>
<p>drusba:It was not intended to get legislators to provide more money. here is the article from May 2006:</p>
<p>" Responding to a public outcry, University of Illinois officials on Monday scrapped a plan that would have made it harder for Illinois students to get into the state’s premier public university.</p>
<p>The university was hit with threats of legislative hearings and complaints from angry students, parents and alumni after announcing plans to gradually increase out-of-state and international enrollment to 15 percent, from 10 percent, as part of a larger plan to make the Urbana-Champaign campus more elite.</p>
<p>“The public reaction is so strong and so negative that I think that it is hurting more than a slight increase in non-resident enrollment can possibly help us,” the university’s president, B. Joseph White, said in an interview with the Tribune. “We are a public institution, and trust and confidence in us are really important. It sure is not worth damaging that trust and confidence over a small matter like this.”</p>
<p>The university’s chancellor, Richard Herman, had told guidance counselors last Tuesday that the change, part of a wide-ranging strategic plan for the campus, was intended to increase the diversity of the undergraduate student body and improve education for all students.</p>
<p>University officials argued that they look out for Illinois’ students, noting that the university has the smallest percentage of non-resident students of any Big 10 university. Seven of the public universities draw more than 25 percent of their students from other states."</p>
<p>Yes, there are many Chicagoland students (like me) who want to get away more, but there are also a lot who don’t really care about that and others who want to stay with their HS friends and go there.</p>