<p>I did not get in to the USNA c/o 2017, which was a huge blow to me. It's where I've wanted to go for my WHOLE life and I was also dead-set on serving in the Marine Corps or the Navy. My dad is an '85 grad, and I live about an hour away from Annapolis, so that place has pretty much been my second home. However, I know that the school itself is unimportant since I will only be there for four years, compared to the minimum of 5 I will serve in the actual service. Regardless, the opportunities and environment of the USNA are still drawing me to it, not even considering my family history with it. I also attended a CVW in 2012, which wasn't a surprise to me at all since I knew what to expect. I came out even more motivated than before. When I didn't get in, I honestly hit rock bottom. I got out of that slump though, and went through with my plan B. I applied for ROTC scholarships and also applied to the USMA pretty late. I was ready to go to Norwich with ROTC and reapply to the USNA c/o 2018 when I got my offer to USMA in May. I accepted it, and almost immediately afterwards regretted it. </p>
<p>I followed through with my USMA appt. though, and completed 'Beast Barracks'. It was an incredibly difficult 2 months, but I came out ranked top in my squad. </p>
<p>Now, during the academic year, I am taking advanced chemistry and advanced multivariable calculus as well as other core classes, and I am on the football team. I decided during Beast that I was going to reapply to Navy though, because I don't want to give up on that dream. USMA is amazing and the Army is a tremendous opportunity to serve, but my heart has been set on USNA and I am going to keep trying for it.</p>
<p>I am currently holding a 4.2 GPA (A+'s are 4.33) after 4 week interim reports and have an A military grade and an A physical grade. Keep in mind I am also playing a demanding college sport. My application will be done in December once I send in my transcript.</p>
<p>I have heard of limited cases of cadets/mids of one academy applying to and being accepted to another. Can anyone give me some feedback? If I don't get into Navy again, I am going to transfer to Virginia Tech with NROTC and apply to USNA again from there. I'm 100% committed to this.</p>
<p>I am sure USNA would expect you to explain why you left USMA and you rationale should NOT be just because you decided that you still wanted to go to USNA. There is no guarantee you will get an appointment the next time around and then you could end up being out of USMA and not accepted to USNA. It is very rare for someone to cross-commission after graduation, I would see that as only a remote possibility and certainly wouldn’t depend on that.</p>
<p>USMA will take all of your time and dedication to be successful (true of all of the service academies). Thinking the grass is greener someplace else won’t do you much good with all of the challenges you are presented.</p>
<p>I think you have to ask yourself what you really want here. Is your goal to say you graduated from USNA or are you interested in a career in the military? There are a number of ways to pursue a military career.</p>
<p>Richie - In December 2012 you posed this same transfer question in the other forum and said it was out of curiosity. Since this has been your plan for quite some time now, why in the world did you utilize (waste) an appointment when you knew you would not be staying at USMA?</p>
<p>If this it really what you want then go for it and apply. You know the game! You will have 4 interviews, 1 with your B&G, 2 with your senators, and 1 with your congressman. Only they will ask why, the admissions will not. </p>
<p>Maybe your advisor from USNA but I don’t see that happening they will wait for the B&G interview feedback. If your grades are as you say, your playing a sport, and your applying again they like this a lot, it shows your desire even if your coming from another SA. It does not matter what SA or college your attending when they see that your driven “again” and you maintained high grades it holds a lot of weight in their point system. If you want to play ball for USNA contact the coach but do that ASAP. I would not look at this as a limited case, it happens. </p>
<p>Understand that if you do this and get accepted you would need to start in your Plebe year. “Everybody” starts at the Plebe level, it is what it is and there is no way around it even if you come from another SA. I’ll say it again everybody starts the same…a Plebe!</p>
<p>If you have previously attended and separated from another service academy that would be a huge red flag that USNA admissions would want to know more about. Certainly they will notice this as the admissions committee reviews your grades and schools attended/college transcripts, etc. and this would be a point of discussion for them.</p>
<p>I can’t say what you should or should not do, only you can decide that. Frankly, no one on any of these forums can rate your chances for admissions, even for those applying for the first time, but it doesn’t seem to stop people from asking.</p>
<p>OP indicated they are current at USMA. You are correct to say that nobody can give the odds on getting in, I wish I added that. Good stuff!! </p>
<p>There will be no red flag they will only want to know why mooradian is doing what he is doing. There is a very strong consideration given to candidates who have applied before. Even if the applicant is in an ROTC unit or another SA it will make no diff. that is unless the poster cannot show his true heart. </p>
<p>This is the 2nd time through the process for us. DS1, NROTC & DS2 current NROTC & USNA candidate. There are no rules in either application that prevent a current SA student from applying. You actually can reapply to all the SA’s at the same time. </p>
<p>We know 4 mids at the academy, 1 is a firstie, 1 is a youngster, the other two are Plebes. One of the Plebes comes from another college, this was his 2nd time applying. The 2nd time around was quite helpful to his application. Maintained a 3.8 in college, went through the application process again and made it in. We have been to the Academy several times for different reasons all related to applying, and we have read the getting into the Academy handbook. One thing we learned from the B&G and academy admissions is they encourage all candidates to reapply if they do not get in their 1st time. It does not matter where they go for college just keep good grades and reapply.</p>
<p>Class Stat 2017 - 51 from the U.S. Naval Academy Foundation Program
(36 from prep schools and 15 from colleges)</p>
<p>Class Stat 2017 - 95 additional students have completed at least one
semester of study at a college or university</p>
<p>Class Stat 2017 - ROTC/JROTC/Sea Cadets/Civil Air Patrol - 16%</p>
<p>All good stuff. Good luck mooradian, show your heart and how much you want this. I hope my DS can join you for the 2018 Plebe summer. Looking fwd. to that shaved head and someone getting in his face. We were there this summer for the incoming Plebe class. The live experience was really good for him and us as parents.</p>
<p>3unitsIlove It is a bit delusional to suggest that USNA admissions will not ask about the situation. Time2 is completely correct that this will be a huge red flag. I mean HUGE. You seem to suggest that USNA admissions will treat this individual as if he is transferring from Big State U, which I assure you will not be the case. He has already raised his right hand, taken an oath, and now is seeking to get out of one commitment and into another. They will question his integrity and commitment, as they should. Though he is perfectly free to leave at this point and start over anywhere that he can obtain admission to, in the service academy world, believe me this will be looked at with great scrutiny. </p>
<p>Mooradian I do know that last year there was a swimmer at Army who had transferred from Navy, which is highly odd, but I do not know any details of that situation. Perhaps you could seek this person out and learn his story. I do wish you the best of luck in your pursuit of your dreams, but I still dont agree with what you did, when you knew in your heart that West Point was not what you wanted. I understand that once you received the appointment it was yours to utilize or give away, but cmon. You could have gone civilian and reapplied to USNA from there. But then again, it is fun and exciting to be courted by the football coaches, isnt it?</p>
<p>Not at all delusional & not suggesting that USNA admissions will not ask about the situation. As I already stated it would be questioned in the 4 interviews he will need to go through.</p>
<p>It’s not a red flag, they will only want to know why and see if the OP’s heart is where he suggests. If he can express his true feelings in a manner respectful to all branches it should be fine. If he can’t well then he can just stay where he is. Either way sounds like he is determined to serve, they like that a lot… The Big State U was only one example of re-apply. The attached link will show class make up which includes NROTC, just another example. </p>
<p>As indicated there are no rules in that application that do not disallow a kid from reapplying from another SA. To add this was asked at an admissions intro and it was fine. You yourself have just added what I have been saying in an example: “last year there was a swimmer at Army who had transferred from Navy”. This is an excellent plug. It happens, not often but it happens.</p>
<p>Mooradian, call admissions and get the real truth. If I’m wrong I will stand corrected. The phone call will help a great deal. To add call your area B&G coordinator and see if he / she can give you some feedback. It’s all up to you, make the call, and the forum is well it’s just thoughts. Nobody is right and everybody could be wrong. </p>
<p>Great feedback from all, I hope it helps with your goals. Apply or not either way your walking the walk. From an ex-veteran, thank you for what your trying to accomplish. Word of advise…always listen to your senior NCO’s.</p>
<p>Mooradian I am now thoroughly confused. You state that you were offered USMA in May of this year, but the newspaper article would state otherwise. It says you were offered in December and then accepted and signed with USMA for football on February 1. It also states that WP had been your dream since the events of 9/11, but I understand that things like that just sound good for the papers. You also stated once that you were set to attend VA Tech on ROTC, then it was Norwich with ROTC. Honey, you gotta make up your mind on what your story is! You are a smart guy, being a football direct admit to a service academy, but I expect future leaders of this nation to have some integrity. Care to respond?</p>
<p>^^ Not clear which newspaper article is being referred to, perhaps on some other thread. Applying after 1-2 yrs at a civilian college is a TOTALLY different thing then quitting one SA to apply to another. While you are welcome to have your own opinion, those are the facts. It is much like someone who is separated from USNA and then 1-2 yrs later has a change of heart and tries to apply again. </p>
<p>While anything is possible, it is highly unlikely you would be readmitted. The above posted USNA 2017 class profile contain no information that would indicate how many have previously attended another service academy.</p>
<p>It was just examples nothing more… It was at the admissions where they said that kids have reapplied from SA’s. It didn’t come from me just passing the info. The best advise is for Mooradian to call, I’m sure they will tell all.</p>
<p>I would not recommend leaving USMA and applying to USNA. I would apply for the exchange program which occurs during your 3rd year. You can attend the Naval Academy for an entire semester. Then, I would start the process of trying to get a commission in the Navy or Marine Corps. It’s done every year! If you make a compelling case as to WHY you want to serve in the Navy, it may be approved. My roommate from the Naval Academy got a commission in the Air Force.</p>