<p>Roth</a> on Wesleyan Blog Archive Admissions and Recognition</p>
<p>Apparently, after last year's record # of apps (10,068), the number has increased again, to approximately 10,675. If the same # is admitted, this would be about a 20.6% rate of admission.</p>
<p>some more details released:</p>
<p>[Applications</a> Up By 6 Percent Over Record Year](<a href=“http://newsletter.blogs.wesleyan.edu/2010/02/08/applications-up-by-6-percent-over-record-year/]Applications”>Applications Up By 6 Percent Over Record Year)</p>
<p>@smartalic34 What do you see in the class of 2018, my first impressions and my DS was an applicant, Apps down 14% by 1500 lowest for 5+ years, SAT CR lower by 5, students in the top 10% lowest in 5 years and falling for over 5 years now. Roth lauded back in 2010 not needing to ‘market’ the college, but you have to wonder why most stats are now falling and they have gone SAT optional. Thoughts and I mean this to be instructive,but it is noteworthy, I am just putting this out there:</p>
<p><a href=“https://www.wesleyan.edu/admission/facts_faces/2018%20Profile%20revised.pdf”>https://www.wesleyan.edu/admission/facts_faces/2018%20Profile%20revised.pdf</a></p>
<p>Why are you bumping a thread from four years ago, @Englishman? Does your kid know what you’re up to on this forum? I’m guessing s/he would be either mortified or say something like, “Well, since the accident…” </p>
<p>Looks like you’re grasping at straws again, @Englishman. The standardized test scores are remarkably stable and have been for the past five years; geographic diversity has been completely stable with 45% of the entering class hailing from outside the northeast; 40% students of color; 16% first generation to attend college. What’s not to like? Oh, there was a slight dip in the the class rankings. But, everyone knows that’s a function of how many prep school kids you admit in a given year, since most of them don’t report any class ranks. The Class of 2018 happened to have an unusually large cohort of preppies (for Wesleyan, that is.)</p>
<p>BTW, why in the world would you pull up a four year old thread in order to ask about last year’s freshmen class? Hope it was worth the effort.</p>
<p>Wait, @Englishman just randomly jumped into a thread on Wesleyan and found yet another way to snatch bad news from the jaws of good? You don’t say.</p>
<p>If any of you actually thinks this guy’s kid got in and said “no”, then I have a bond fund I want to sell you.</p>
<p>I’ll have to be careful. I was warned by the mods that I was getting too aggressive, so I’ll take my leave from this thread w/o saying more … other than wonder aloud, “where do they come from?”</p>
<p>The pdf’s value to me is in its novel usage of “college” as a verb: “15% of admits are the first generation in family to college.”</p>
<p>Well he didnt stay long did he…</p>
<p>That was a bizarre thread to resuscitate. Or is it rehabilitate?</p>
<p>"Well he didnt stay long did he… "</p>
<p>Your posts are becoming more and more unintelligible.</p>
<p>But don’t give up the good (if not super weird) fight. You are keeping the world safe from any misguided ideas that Wesleyan is anything other than a 3rd rate junior college masquerading as an elite liberal arts college.</p>
<p>@Englishman As others have said, not sure what you’re getting at, but Roth noted in his recent update that for the Class of 2019, Wesleyan received a record number of ED applications, which bodes well for the RD pool. Last year was an anomaly.</p>
<p>As for test optional admission practices, I will note that Bowdoin is test optional as well, with Middlebury being test flexible (read: you can be both an elite school and be test optional). Wesleyan’s SAT/ACT medians have been remarkably consistent for 5+ years, so again, not sure what you’re getting at.</p>
<p>Since this thread is active and people may still be reading it, I’ll note that my post involving resuscitate/rehabilitate was a reference to language being debated on a parallel Wesleyan thread.</p>
@merci81 I prefer resuscitate. But my pointe is well served enjoy seeing alums jump to defend what is now a top 25 school, just waiting on Roth’s announcement…
True, thanks @GrudeMonk You’re a gentleman and a scholar
@GrudeMonk,
Hmm. I don’t think so. First, unless you have a basis for knowing that you haven’t shared, we’re each making an educated guess. If he was"called out" by @circuitrider for inaccuracies, then I’m not at all surprised. Second, my theory for what would motivate someone to embark on a months-long rant about Wesleyan, going to extreme lengths of twisted logic and double standard criticisms in the process, is much more plausible than just being stung by an anonymous poster on the internet concerning his recollections from his made-up visit to campus.
Of course, all problems are solved with “you’re a gentlemen and a scholar”. In my opinion, he is neither.
Nope. I hold to my thoughts on this: junior Englishman was bounced at Wes, and papa Englishman thinks it was unjust. Much more likely in my view. Anybody can look up facts about Amherst and say their kid goes there. Give me an hour and I’ll convince you my 16 year old is at Oxford.
It’s possible I see this a bit more clearly since I don’t have a dog in this fight. @circuitrider is an Wes alum, you have a kid at Wes now, and @Englishman has a son at Amherst. This is how I see it.
@Englishman (our hero to short it) has some experience at Wes since he and his son spent some time there deciding on where the son should go after acceptances were received. Since his son ended up choosing Amherst, he is developing a nice connection with Amherst himself. That’s natural and had happened to me after my first son started attending college three years ago. Our hero was not that impressed with the Athletic Center and the housing situation at Wes. He might have overstated it a bit, but he was contrasting it to what he sees at Amherst. @circuitrider took exception to his comments and attacked his credibility. I think it was just our hero’s opinion and he was not confused about what he had seen at Wes. In truth my DS2 and I held slightly different opinions on this too. The two things that impressed DS2 most at Wes were the Athletic Center and the way housing is handled. I honestly was surprised that he picked up on those two things at Wes because I had seen what I thought better at other colleges we visited. Perhaps it is because he is a swimmer and the pool is much bigger and nicer at Wesleyan versus what he had just seen at Amherst.
So now that @circuitrider is jumping on @Englishman, our hero feels a little hurt. Subsequently he digs into Wes to try to hurt @circuitrider. Those digs hurt you (I know hurt is probably too strong) and you take it badly. To make you feel better: DS2 had Wes #3 on his list while he dropped Amherst from it completely. He ended up getting accepted early from a completely different NESCAC rival though.
To go back even further, in another incarnation @circuitrider used to consistently put down rivals of Wes in an effort to make Wes look better. In his new guise he is much kinder and gentler although he still sometimes resorts to those old ways. I’m happy he is not trying to pile on to our hero right now as he would have in the past. I believe that if we treat our hero nicely, he will stop dumping on Wes too. Since his son did consider going to Wes, I am sure there are things he likes there too. For me, I am happy your kid is happy at Wes because it is a great place to go to school.
On last thing - DS2 is not going to Williams, so we will not be a part of the Little Three rivalry that you get to enjoy with our hero and @circuitrider.
I think the bottom line here is that there was no earthly reason for this thread to be revived, in clear contradiction of the CC terms of agreement, not to mention it being a very misleading subject heading since it doesn’t refer to this year’s entering class. Pure mischief all around.
The mods should shut it down before any more bandwith gets wasted on it.
Good post @GrudeMonk - you are, in fact, a scholar and a gentleman. I still hold perhaps more acrimony towards @Englishman than do you, not so much because my D is at Wes (actually just admitted ED1; I don’t want to overstate my experience), but because wantonly bashing on schools is both not my style and a vice I find to be particularly nasty. I’m happy to sling poo about a school in response to someone who just comes out and starts doing that sort of thing (like @anotherparent22, who, because her son is heading to Michigan, now thinks that’s the only place on the planet to go to school). But, in general, it’s not something I support. People wind up at all kinds of schools for all kinds of reasons. There’s never a good reason to find fault in anyone’s ambition to educate themselves, wherever that may be.
I hope your son is happy wherever he chose. If he was fortunate enough to be in the position to turn down Wes and Amherst, he must have done quite well. Congratulations to him for that!
I had refrained before, but will throw out now that my D turned down “strong adcom reviews” (the NESCAC/selective LAC version of the Ivy League “likely letter”) from each of the top NESCAC schools as well as other programs in the Liberty League and ECAC.
A ECNL soccer player and a 5’10" rower on a varsity 8 and 4 that won US Rowing regional titles offering a 3.9+ uw full IB Diploma GPA and high 2100s on the SATs, she generated a lot of interest in the selective college world. She chose Wesleyan because she did her research about the school itself, liked the coaches and the girls on the teams who hosted her, liked the campus and liked Middletown. You’re right: “hurt” was too strong. In reality, I’m sitting here, knowing what her options were, and laughing AT anyone who thinks Wes is a safety school in the traditional sense of that term.
But whatever. Again, good post.
PS: is @circuitrider = @johnwesley? I’ve been lurking longer than I’ve been posting, but all that history does precede my time on the board.
@circuitrider, the mods aren’t going to do that because @Englishman is not directly insulting anybody, and suggest putting him on ignore. but the Lord knows that I hate a paper hanger, so I’ll choose to not do that and instead tread carefully. I would have guessed that a reasonable interpretation of the CC terms would include bouncing anyone who is wantonly stirring the pot, which is clearly @Englishman’s intent. oh well.
Good post @HuskyLawyer by you too! No, DS2 did not get as much love as it sounds like your daughter generated. He was accepted ED1 from Tufts in December.
Now I’m happy to honor @circuitrider’s request and will not post on this thread again.