AP's and applications

<p>Do AP scores really mtter in college admissions (particularly Penn?)? I mean I'm doing well in the classes its just that I do not remeber much from the beginning of the year...would a 3 look bad?</p>

<p>AP Scores do not factor into admissions at all. The scores (4 or 5 at place with the rigor of UPenn) are for your benefit only if you wish to place out of entry level classes.</p>

<p>Thats a relief...still id like to heard others' opinons</p>

<p>Well some schools will ask for your AP scores. I mean they won't factor what score you get into their admissions but maybe it would look better if you scored well on a subject that is part of your intended major. Just my two cents.</p>

<p>I don't think it hurts either to see an excellent AP score with an A or B in an AP class to reinforce that the grade from that class hasn't been totally inflated. So, if you did particularly well on AP exams, I'd list those scores somewhere to reinforce the class grade. </p>

<p>zebes</p>

<p>Does the application actually ask for AP scores, or do you just send them once you've been admitted?</p>

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<p>Penn's supplement to the Common Application (which I have at hand) asks for student self-reported AP test scores. Other colleges do likewise. </p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/371690-colleges-request-ap-scores-their-application-forms.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/371690-colleges-request-ap-scores-their-application-forms.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>AP scores does not matter; as confirmed by directly questioning the Penn admission officer.</p>

<p>Where did a Penn officer say that? (I ask, because I see the question on the Penn supplement, which I think everyone reading this thread can download from the link on the Common Application site.) This would be a good question for the OP to ask at an Exploring College Options program this spring or this coming fall. </p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/460097-how-meet-college-admission-officers-spring-2008-a.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/460097-how-meet-college-admission-officers-spring-2008-a.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>AP scores can save you a thousand dollars per AP. Heck yes they do matter. In the end they are more important than even the classes...at some schools that allow mass-AP credit transfer, you can save a year, and at privates, that means a nice $40,000. Yes, they do matter, even if not for admissions but for your general welfare.</p>

<p>As for admissions, it won't matter as long as it's 3 or above as it shows that you have challenged yourself and actually gained something from the course allowing you to pass the exam.</p>

<p>If you get a 1 or 2 and report it, it's going to look bad because it looks like you didn't gain anything from the class and mabye didn't try hard in the class either, thus not challenging yourself and reflecting badly on your academic character and passion.</p>

<p>Ok, maybe they matter for saving money, but if you don't report a bad score, how can it hurt (if your high school is known as a strong school and you got a decent grade in the class)?</p>

<p>From the schools that I recently visited, I've found that credits are only accepted for 5's on the AP exams. Occasionally a 4 will let you skip the introductory class but you won't get credit.</p>

<p>In terms of admissions, they really don't make that much of a difference. Just get a 4 or 5 and you'll be perfectly fine.</p>

<p>At my school, you can choose not to send specific AP scores to colleges, if you don't like certain ones.</p>

<p>I disagree, at a time when EVERYTHING counts I do believe they are part of the consideration. With grade inflation, and courses varying it is another equalizer in the ability to compare the quality and validity of your academic perfomance. Do they count more than anything else- i doubt it - but I do believe that they, like everything else are part of the picture and low AP scores and high grades will raise flags. Or Ap classes with no scores...are you GPA monger!!</p>

<p>if by the end of junior year i have like 10 out of 10 fives, would that factor into admissions at all?</p>

<p>it is my philosophy that AP scores are somewhat useless since the people who care about them and do well on the tests tend to end up at schools that refuse to accept them ;)</p>

<p>icooufoo69, i think 10/10 5's would certainly look very impressive! Even if the adcom claim that it doesn't factor into admissions, they'll still be subconsciously impressed by you.</p>

<p>When you apply to a college, do you have to send your AP test scores? If you don't, should you? Or is it OK if you just let the colleges see that you took AP classes on your transcript? In terms of the Ivies and other really top schools, does sending AP scores give you an advantage (does not sending AP scores make you less likely for admission?) </p>

<p>I ask because I already took the WHAP test and got a 5, but this year I have to take APUSH and English AP but I don't think I'll do well on APUSH (English I'm not worried about) and I don't want a bad APUSH test score to ruin my chances (although I'll have a B+ for the class). </p>

<p>Any advice would be really appreciated.</p>

<p>If you say that you took the course, they expect you to take the test.
You self-report scores on the common app, they don't require you to send them until you enroll, if you want credit for the course, at which point they'll get all scores.</p>

<p>The colleges want to see that you took the course AND that you did well on the tests. As we all know, AP class quality can vary within the school, depending on the teacher, and within different schools. The test is the best measure of how well you grasped the class information. One can have a consistent A+ in a course like AP English and get a 3 on the exam; the converse could be true, I had a B in My AP English class, and got a 5 on the Language exam. </p>

<p>The scores don't really matter until you enroll. I only self-reported my scores to the schools I applied to and got into all of them.</p>

<p>Your best course of action would be to make all scores known. Reporting none would be bad since they wouldn't see the great scores, and reporting some of them only to send them all later where they see all the bad scores is bad. Don't hide anything. Don't worry about it until you get your test scores back.</p>

<p>Your scores don't matter, but the fact that you took an AP Exam or even better, self-studied it, shows hard work and academic determination. As long as you didn't get a 1, meaning that you are either a idiot or simply didn't try hard [a 1 implies you only got a 20-30% on the test...F-------------]. </p>

<p>Overall, the fact that you took AP's is more significant than whether you got 3 4 or 5. Just report them and the colleges will happily see that you have challenged yourself beyond just the typical high school courseload/testload.</p>