<p>does anyone know anything about the undergraduate architecture program at yale?</p>
<p>Here's a good place to start.</p>
<p><a href="http://architecture.about.com/od/schools/%5B/url%5D">http://architecture.about.com/od/schools/</a></p>
<p>Yale has the best architecture program in the country. The undergraduate program is particularly strong, because it is set within the top-ranked graduate school and enables students to do anything they want, because it's a small program. Be wary of large undergrad architecture programs, which are basically diploma mills.</p>
<p>Here are the best rankings of the field (done by and for architects):</p>
<p>I guess we know why! See, for example:</p>
<p>I don't think you understand the rankings very well.</p>
<p>You've posted the DesignIntelligence "practitioner" rankings, which fluctuate so much from year to year to make them obviously worthless. For example, Syracuse was #4 one year and not even in the top 20 the next in those rankings.</p>
<p>The rankings I posted are the most recent DesignIntelligence comprehensive rankings from that magazine, and not based on skewed surveys that obviously are not done correctly.</p>
<p>Please read and understand the rankings before you make false claims about which ones I posted.</p>
<p>You tell astonishing lies, as ever, TROLL.</p>
<p>LOL, Bylery calling someone else TROLL!!! How ironic... and lacking insight. </p>
<p>Whatever the case, yale has a particularly strong architecture department to go along with a particularly ugly architecture building. I think you have to apply your sophomore year to the major and it is extremely competitive due to limited enrollment.</p>
<p>Of course Yale has a "strong architecture department." It is simply that there is no current basis upon which to boast or brag, Bulldog, that it is "THE stongest".</p>
<p>PosterX</p>
<p>No doubt, Yale has one of the best architecture programs in the country but you are showing old rankings and those for graduate programs, not undergradtuate programs. For anyone who cares to look, the current rankings can be purchased on the magazine's website. The current rankings for the best architecture schools at the undergraduate level place Cornell first with no other Ivy League school even in the top ten (sorry Yale). Yale comes in second in the magazine's rankings for graduate (i.e. masters) programs after Harvard with several other Ivies in the top tier including UPenn, Columbia and Princeton.</p>
<p>Rational, the "undergraduate rankings" in DesignIntelligence are specifically for programs offering a five-year, intensive B.Arch degree and do not include any B.A. degree architecture programs, such as Yale. </p>
<p>The fact that Yale does not offer a B.Arch is the one and only reason why Yale is not included in the DesignIntelligence B.Arch rankings (duh). Because of this, the rankings are worthless, unless for some very odd reason you feel you have to get a B.Arch instead of a B.A. then an M.Arch. Yale undergraduates get a B.A. degree and typically continue for an M.Arch at either Yale or Harvard. The same is true for B.A. architecture graduates of other schools, such as Princeton.</p>
<p>In addition, as I said before, the DesignIntelligence rankings you quote are based on surveys and the numbers fluctuate so much from year to year so as to make them completely unusable (see my more detailed explanation above). The only scientific rankings ever done by DesignIntelligence are the ones I posted, where programs were evaluated in-depth, not on the basis of some random survey. Also, the ones I cited are the only complete rankings of architecture SCHOOLS - not just "graduate" or "undergraduate" programs, which is a basically worthless distinction.</p>
<p>You are simply not telling the truth as the prior poster notes. </p>
<p>You were caught trying to tell people that 3-year old rankings were the current ones - probably because you did not have access to the 2004 rankings or the 2005 rankings, for which you would have hard to pay, and even then failed to disclose that you were not posting the accurate 2003 rankings "done by and for architects."</p>
<p>Posterx</p>
<p>I'm sorry to say, you are simply wrong. I believe you may be confused about how the current rankings are created. As the current issue for 2005 points out, "Prior to 2004 this study combined bachelors and masters programs.
Note the above 2003 and prior data is provided for schools that offer
bachelors programs only and does not necessarily constitute the complete
results for those years." The undergraduate rankings are for four year programs, not combined five year programs that lead to a masters. You are correct that the old rankings did this. The new ones do not.</p>
<p>Sorry Byerly, but you are again misunderstanding the rankings I've posted, which are NOT the "practitioner" rankings. The rankings you cite are based on surveys, and are basically worthless. Just look at Syracuse - it's not ranked for three years and suddenly pops to #4 in the country one year. Total hogwash.</p>
<p>The rankings I posted are the ONLY scientific rankings of architecture schools, that combine a variety of factors and are not just based on some random survey. <a href="http://www.di.net/article.php?article_id=173%5B/url%5D">http://www.di.net/article.php?article_id=173</a></p>
<p>Rational, I'm sorry to say this, but you are simply incorrect. The DesignIntelligence "bachelors" rankings are specifically for schools that offer a five-year B.Arch. degree (in addition to being based on surveys and thus worthless). Schools that offer a B.A. degree in architecture, such as Yale and Princeton, are not included in the ranking only because they do not offer the B.Arch. B.A. graduates of Yale and Princeton typically get a B.A. then go on for a M.Arch at a program such as Harvard, Yale, Princeton or Columbia. The fact that the DesignIntelligence ranking only includes B.Arch. programs is misleading and is by no means a ranking of the "best undergraduate programs in architecture."</p>
<p>PosterX</p>
<p>My, I have to eat some crow here. You ARE correct. I've seen these rankings for a number of years and thought that I understood them but, just for fun, I checked with the editor and, in fact, only B.Arch programs are being ranked in the "undergraduate" section. Thus, you are absolutely correct when you point out that fine undergraduate programs such as those at Princeton and Yale, are not even considered since they don't lead directly to a professional degree. I do understand, however, that the ranking to which you are referring may not be done in the same way again and that the more recent rankings are all based on surveys rather than on any kind of objective analysis. At any rate, I tip my hat to you for being more accurate than I!</p>
<p>Thanks Rational! As they say, the devil is in the details. People are too quick to jump to a conclusion sometimes, but don't worry, that's just part of human nature :)</p>
<p>for those who just searched this thread, note that the DI undergrad ranking is NOT only for b.arch...u cin (2nd) is bs in arch.</p>