Are Canadian Permanent Residents REALLY Need-Blind at Cornell?

<p>I am a Korean citizen living in Canada.. I have been living in Canada for about 6 years already.</p>

<p>The economy is very bad right now and I've read articles that many universities will not be able to stick to need-blind policies 100% this year. I've emailed them asking whether Canadian residents are need-blind and haven't got a reply yet. (and I have a feeling I will never get any reply back)</p>

<p>Their website says

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Q: Are Canadian and Mexican applicants eligible for financial aid though the Cornell financial aid office?</p>

<p>A: Citizens and permanent residents of Canada, and citizens of Mexico, are eligible for financial aid on the same basis as U.S. citizens and permanent residents (based on financial need). Canadians and Mexicans apply using the College Scholarship Service (CSS) Profile. Visit Cornell</a> university - Financial Aid for complete instructions.

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Does this mean it is need-blind to us? It does not exactly says that they don't take account of the fact that we need financial aid.</p>

<p>Another problem is that there is no place on the application where I can indicate that I am a Canadian permanent resident. There are only places for my citizenships. How should I indicate this?</p>

<p>Any help is appreciated. Thanks.</p>

<p>hmm I'm in the same shoes as you. From what I have heard, they do say that they offer Canadian Citizens/residents financial aid needblindly as they do to US citizens, However I've know a number of students who got in Cornell, and was not able to pay, or got in Cornell, applied FA, and didn't get any (still went)->all from Canada ofcourse. So yeah, I'm "Hoping" for FA, cause the hell, without it no way I can afford to go lol. But I wouldn't "Expect" full aid... let me know they say when they reply to your email? :D</p>

<p>omg guys,
this post totally freaked me out
im canadian citizen, i applied ED with financial aid...i'll need a lot of aid as well</p>

<p>I always interpreted their website as that they are need-blind to canadians and mexicans as well. but if this isn't true,,, i might as well expect a rejection letter.
wow</p>

<p>DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS!</p>

<p>This is only my flawed knowledge, but I've always heard that Cornell is indeed need-blind for canadian citizens and mexican citizens. I do not know how that applies to residents, but for citizens I am almost sure it is need-blind admissions.</p>

<p>@darknight, just because they applied and got in does not mean they will get financial aid. It is very likely that Cornell calculates their need to be insufficient to merit financial aid, regardless of whether they were accepted need-blind or not.</p>

<p>I am in the same situation as you managinglife -- korean/canadian PR, lived in canada 8-9 years etc.</p>

<p>I had the same question and asked FA officer few weeks ago, and they told me that they consider canadian pr/citizens, us pr/citizen, mexican citizen all the same when reviewing the FA application and that even the sum for FA does not vary between them.</p>

<p>I hope they are not kidding to make us feel better :)</p>

<p>i just wish they were more explicit. because columbia explicitly states that they are need-blind for citizens/permenant residents of U.S. Canada and Mexico.</p>

<p>I also sent an email to Cornell to confirm if they are need-blind to canadians, but they havent replied yet.</p>

<p>I guess there's nothing I can do about it now though</p>

<p>chendrix,, perhaps you're right, I probably didn't get the full scope, but I do know that atleast one person who got in (RD), rejected Cornell, and ended up going to McMaster Health Sciences ,, because he said Cornells too expensive, I'm sure he would've went to Cornell if he was offered full aid though, any Ivy pwns Canadian universities :D my opinion..sorry, but yeah , perhaps he wasn't offered full aid, or maybe he put down a large Family Contribution amount</p>

<p>anyways, lets all hope for the best , T_T i just wana get accepted first lol</p>

<p><a href="http://finaid.cornell.edu/finaid/deadlines/upload/Freshman-Financial-Aid-Applicationrev.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://finaid.cornell.edu/finaid/deadlines/upload/Freshman-Financial-Aid-Applicationrev.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I'm pretty sure that means they are need-blind for Canadian and Mexican citizens, and Canadian permanent residents.</p>

<p>Okay so I got a reply</p>

<p>To be honest, I don't think they are need blind to Canadians. They are in a pretty bad situation with the whole financial thing and being need-blind to Canadians will be a whole another burden for them.</p>

<p>In their email, they just said it is need based, it didn't say anything about it being need-blind or not, even though I specifically asked(and only asked) if it was need-blind or need aware to Canadian residents.</p>

<p>It seems like they are trying to avoid the issue of talking about it, so I am assuming that they aren't. What do you guys think?</p>

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Good afternoon,</p>

<p>Financial aid is awarded based on financial need. Canadian permanent residents and citizens can apply for, and be reviewed for financial aid based on financial need. </p>

<p>Thank you

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<p>They say that Canadian and Mexicans are regarded as the same as US Citizens when it comes to financial aid. This means that the two formers are both need-based and need-blind.</p>

<p>Need-based and need-blind are completely two different things. Canadians, Mexicans, and Americans have need-blind admission. All financial aids are awarded need-based (based on need rather than on merits). Many posters here are quite confounded by the difference. Therefore, Canadians, Mexicans, and Americans have need-blind admission and need-based financial aids are awarded.</p>

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They are not very clear about it though...</p>

<p>yea i'm not sure why they can't just say
yes we are need blind to canadians - which is what other universities state</p>

<p>I guess cornell means the same thing, but in different words?
i just don't want to feel like i'm doing any guesswork</p>

<p>Shifu Yoda answered the question. read what he wrote. There are two separate departments - Admissions and Financial Aid.</p>

<p>Admissions is Need-blind - they ONLY look at your merits as a student.</p>

<p>Financial Aid is Need-based - they only look at your needs as an accepted student - your NEEDS - not your wants - as their office calculates your needs.</p>

<p>I still satisfying full need of all accepted canadian applicants is going to be a challenge. Luckily admission is seperate though.</p>

<p>Cornell is need blind to citizens and permanent residents of Canada. I don't believe the financial situation will affect the top educational institutions too much and will certainly not compromise their need-blind policy.</p>

<p>This used to be true. After Fall 2010, it is no longer the case. Meaning, it is need-blind but does not provide financial aid. In order words, you CAN be accepted, but you are not guaranteed financial aid. :(</p>

<p>^Is there a school that guarantees financial aid?</p>

<p>What the post means regarding PR of Canada and citizens is that admissions is need blind (this is completely seperate from financial aid) and that PR and citizens can receive financial aid and possibly full need if the parental EFC indicates that FA is needed.</p>