<p>So are the classes here really that much harder here? I have like a few friends from like riverside, irvine, and santa barbara. they're like i got a 100% on this chem exam, psych, econ etc....
Like is chem harder here than compared to irvine's or san diego's? Hmm..</p>
<p>dont use like so much...</p>
<p>yes berkeley is considered challenging for most of us here...but that is what you have to get when you decide to go to the number 1 public university</p>
<p>and yes, chem is considerably harder here since cal is number one in chem</p>
<p>im californian i use like like in like every sentence.
sorry.</p>
<p>Nahh, people just like to say their classes are harder than other UC's to make themselves feel good.</p>
<p>Feels good, man.</p>
<p>yes. at least compared to riverside for science courses. My friend decided to go to uc riverside and now has the highest grade in 3/4 of his classes: math, chem, and bio. </p>
<p>not all californians use like like in every sentence</p>
<p>lol. feels good.</p>
<p>Yah I guess It really does feel good because It took so much effort in keeping at a B+ range in Chem 1A .....AHHH I just hope that I can stay at a "B" by the end of the semester. Good grief that class was just made to ruin people because I doubt to meet anybody who can say that the 4th midterm helped their grade....the sad part was that I thought I did well on it.</p>
<p>i know.. midterm 4.. ***. 4/30? ><</p>
<p>Since most of us have only been to Berkeley, it would be difficult to make an accurate comparison. I would guess that a school with students who are more driven to succeed would be more challenging because of extra competition and higher expectations from the professors.</p>
<p>UCLA and Berkeley would probably have similarly challenging classes, but I would guess that expectations at, say Riverside or Merced, would be a little lower. I could be wrong though.</p>
<p>i think "like" is more of a female thing.</p>
<p>My BioE 10 class is harder than its equivalent at MIT :(. It's takes me somewhere between 8 to 12 hours to do one homework assignment for that class.</p>
<p>The material should be pretty similar. There are a lot of standard textbooks in science and engineering majors. The depth of the material may be very different (ie. the professor going into more detail than the book due to personal authority on the matter), the tests may be harder, and the competition may be fiercer. </p>
<p>What does this mean for you? Hopefully a better understanding of the material if you consistently score above average in the class, likely a poorer understanding and loss of self-confidence if you score below, and generally a lower GPA no matter what. </p>
<p>For people who are pursuing a technical major and aren't overly zealous about it, it's often more practical to go to a less-competitive school and do well, rack up awards, and build themselves into a stronger applicant for jobs and subsequent schooling.</p>
<p>damn, i cant imagine taking 8 - 12 hours for a hw assignment</p>
<p>Based on what I've seen, Berkeley has a more difficult ochem sequence than UCSD and UCD. Many of my friends are in UCSD and UCD studying BioE.</p>
<p>I went through a few copies of their exams, which include basic retrosynthesis questions (no more than 3 steps) and straight forward multiple choice questions with a few fill in the blanks.</p>
<p>Californians who don't want to look like idiots don't, like, say like too much. Especially if you ever want, like, a job.</p>
<p>wait, like what do you mean? you mean like ochem is like very difficult? that is not to my liking.</p>
<p>8888888, and others, like, like you: </p>
<p>you can't have it both ways..</p>
<p>"...there is a memorable interval between the spoken and written language, the language heard and the language read. the one is commonly transitory, a sound, a tongue, a dialect merely, almost brutish, and we learn it unconsciously, like the brutes , of our mothers. the other is the maturity and experience of that; if that is our mother tongue, this (writing) is our father tongue, a reserved and select expression, too significant to be heard by the ear, which we must be born again in order to speak."</p>
<p>Keep in mind that classes are taken by the semester (~3.7 months) whereas quarterly classes last ~2.5 months.</p>
<p>You could go to campusbuddy or pickaprof and look at grade distributions. Class averages of 2.5-3.3 GPA are very common.</p>
<p>Even if it's harder, job interviewers take into account the difficulty of the courses. Think of it like high school admissions, where the grades you get from an elite private high school are NOT the same as grades you get from an uber public high school.</p>