Are my chances of transfering to Berkely officially over?

<p>Whats up guys. Just found this forum today. Lots of helpful threads, I must say.
Anyways, I just got out of high school ('07) and I am a freshman at a CC in the LA area. My first semester in college did not end the way I wanted it to.</p>

<p>Long story made short....
History : A
English : B
Macro econ: B
Math 101 : B (this doesn't even transfer, so Im not even sure if it matters.)</p>

<p>I didnt really put a lot of effort in all my classes, i worked 40 hrs throughout the semester. I wish I was this serious about this "transferring" stuff back then.</p>

<p>So, do i still have a shot at Berkeley(Haas)?</p>

<p>honestly i have no idea what math 101 is
the first college english class is not THAT important</p>

<p>i think the biggest program with ur first semester is the macro econ
that... hmm... because its a major req haas that might be a bit of a problem.</p>

<p>depending how the rest of your semesters go, if this semester was the worst just explain why u did poorly.
ofcourse u wouldn't say "i didnt give a shyt about it" sorta thing</p>

<p>thank you for the reply, </p>

<p>math 101 is intermediate algebra... so it doesn't even transfer. next is precalc, then calc.</p>

<p>anyways, about the econ, what if i take the class again... and get an A? will that help anything?</p>

<p>Just to clear things up, if I want to transfer within two years instead of three, i would have to finish the major prereqs. by fall 08? or spring 09?</p>

<p>First of all, you can not retake a class if you got a grade above C-, so that option's closed for you.</p>

<p>Is your chance totally over? I wouldn't say it's over, but it will make your chance that much slimmer. B is not a horrible grade. You don't need a perfect 4.0 to be in Haas. Try to ace every class from now and get your GPA above 3.8, which means maximum 3 or 4 B's, depends on how many classes you take, and everything else A's. </p>

<p>Keep the job you are doing, but you can probably decrease the time to 30 hours if you think you need more time devoted for studying.</p>

<p>Keep trying.</p>

<p>My school lets you retake any class no matter what grade you received. I can (and may) retake my French I class that I got an A- in. So the policies vary from school to school.</p>

<p>that's some strange system.
Your school is actually the first one I've heard of that uses such lenient system.</p>

<p>dhl3, thank you for the reply,</p>

<p>what if i take honors macro? will that override the grade i got in macro? or is that not allowed also?</p>

<p>and for Haas, should i pay attention to the IGETC?</p>

<p>No not IGETC, HAAS has other requirments that are not listed there. But you should complete it as well to not put all your eggs in one basket, i am sure you will apply to UCLA and maybe a few other UCs as well just so you have somewhere to go in case HAAS rejects you. </p>

<p>look at Welcome</a> to ASSIST </p>

<p>it will say the requiremtns from your CC to HAAS</p>

<p>Additionally depending on what you do for work, according to the HAAS website your resume influences the decision by about 15%. So if you have solid work experience and maybe some other awards, honors, etc you would look like a good applicant even with a 3.7 + but your gpa does need to be up there. What i recommend is taking some easy A classes to buff your GPA a little bit.</p>

<p>I actually think that math 101 will hurt you i this instance. Although the class is not transferable Haas uses your overall GPA instead of your UC transferable GPA. so that class will be factored into your admissions GPA. And if you had trouble with an intermediate math course (I got a B also) than going all the way to single variable calc will be tough to get straight A's for the rest of the your classes at your community college. I would advise you to switch to econ as your major because it is not as competitive and will increase your chances at Berkeley.</p>

<p>Thedude44:
Although the class is not transferable Haas uses your overall GPA instead of your UC transferable GPA. so that class will be factored into your admissions GPA.</p>

<p>Please tell me this isnt true... i wanna kill myself lol</p>

<p>I believe it is so, check this link and see what UC's and what majors within the diffrent UC's will use your overall GPA.
University</a> of California - Counselors
Try not to be down on yourself. Admissions to Haas is exceptionally competitive and I would highly suggest that you become an econ major. Berkeley's econ program is amazing and I would suggest taking economics and then going for your MBA.</p>

<p>thank you for the advice, but i just calculated, and with enough classes, i can get my gpa to 3.8+ if i get straight A's starting next semester (lets just say i do) and if the also find out that ive worked full time while going to college, and finishing all the req's in two years , AND I get involved in extracurricular activities, will I have a chance then? haha im dreaming......</p>

<p>People with 4.0's that apply to Haas with all there major prereq's completed get rejected from Haas. Regular community college extracurriculars will mostly likely not hack it for Haas either. They want you to have a clear experience in the field of business or internships within business the more respected businesses the better. I know that since you are working 40hrs a week you do not really have time for extracurriculars and that it is acceptable for most UC's but Haas is an exception, they want business extracurriculars or experience. It is very difficult to get into Haas considering even a 4.0 is not a guarantee.</p>

<p>what thedude said is true
it does count into your overall GPA</p>

<p>hmm the 4.0 doesn't guarantee you a ticket but it sure does put a deposit on it.
usually if the 4.0 doesn't get in its probably cuz hes taking easy GPA boosting classes
probably lame stuff like tennis just to boost his GPA
they KNOW what ur trying to do believe it or not</p>

<p>or mayB his essay just isn't that great</p>

<p>i've heard this plenty of times but for haas applicants... focus on the FIRST essay !</p>

<p>Ok, i have a question. I got a list of classes that berkeley requires and for math, all they list is Calculus, and for my CC thats math 103.. and after that if i take math 104( the next calc class) will berkeley see that? or do they just look at the classes that are on that list? i just want to know if its worth going above and beyond what they require? because if theyre not going to give a crap, i might as well focus on other things they require.. </p>

<p>Same goes for Business. The class they require is Business 101(into to business) but after that if i take Business 120(Business Law) will they see that? and if they do will they care?</p>

<p>I hope you guys understand where Im going here..... i just want to put my time and effort where it will benefit me the most....</p>

<p>according to the haas website and berkeley's transfer councellors
they do NOT care
but there are rumors within my CC that it would help but meh i have no clue
i MIGHT take the second calc for the sake of it</p>

<p>i too messed up on the first semester, don't worry about it too much
then got straight As ever since. and i mean ever since. </p>

<p>as long as u climb up, and climb up fast after u fall, ur still in the game</p>

<p>I found this online regarding the factors of the cum. gpa and transferable gpa.</p>

<p>University</a> of California - Counselors</p>

<p>How is GPA used in the admissions process?
UCB
Most programs use the applicant's overall GPA for consideration and selection. Letters and Science, however, uses the overall UC-transferable GPA.</p>

<p>UCD
The role of the GPA in admissions depends on the major. In selective majors, such as Biological Sciences and Psychology, both the overall GPA and the GPA for key courses for the major are considered in the selection process. In majors that are not selective, only the overall GPA is considered.</p>

<p>UCI
Generally, applicants with the highest grades overall (including published prerequisites) are admitted. Some majors, including those in the Henry Samueli School of Engineering, the Donald Bren School of Information and Computer Sciences, and the College of Health Sciences also require a GPA in major-preparation courses that is higher than the GPA required for general campus selection.</p>

<p>UCLA
The role of the GPA in admissions depends on the major. For applicants to majors in all life sciences, Economics and Psychology, both the overall GPA and the GPA for the courses required for major preparation are considered in the selection process. In other majors, only the overall UC-transferable GPA is considered.</p>

<p>UCM
Admissions decisions are based primarily on the overall GPA in UC-transferable courses.</p>

<p>UCR
Admissions decisions are based primarily on the overall GPA in UC-transferable courses. Selective majors such as those in the Marlan and Rosemary Bourns College of Engineering also review the GPA in specific, lower-division preparation courses. All majors in the College of Natural and Agricultural Sciences and the Business Administration major require a GPA higher than that required for UC eligibility.</p>

<p>UCSD
Admissions decisions are based primarily on the overall GPA in UC-transferable courses. Selective majors in the School of Engineering review GPA for admission to the major.</p>

<p>UCSB
Admissions decisions are based primarily on the overall GPA in UC-transferable courses. Selective majors require a GPA higher than the GPA required for campus admission.</p>

<p>UCSC
Admissions decisions are based primarily on the overall GPA in UC-transferable courses. Some selective majors require a GPA in major preparation courses that is higher than the GPA required for campus admission.</p>

<p>thank you for the advice, but i just calculated, and with enough classes, i can get my gpa to 3.8+ if i get straight A's starting next semester (lets just say i do) and if the also find out that ive worked full time while going to college, and finishing all the req's in two years , AND I get involved in extracurricular activities, will I have a chance then? haha im dreaming......</p>

<p>you're right, you probably are. I take issue with the 'calculating what i need in order to get a certain gpa'. I know seeing that number seems comforting, the (3.8) because it sounds attractive. I know that you will probably put in your best effort to get that...but it sounds attractive because it is a dream. until it is a reality, dont even think about 'potential' or 'future' gpa. focus on the classes you're taking <em>right now.</em>. so far, you're not really in the hole as far as prerequisites go, but the key to haas is GPA. below a certain gpa, without any additional circumstances, you pretty much kill your chances. that means you stop worrying about what you MIGHT get and actually GET them. by the way, if anything gets in your way of getting A's and you want to get into haas, take the grades over the ec's. i hate to tell you this, but they really dont matter all that much...at all. prerequisites and gpa are most important. and another thing, retaking econ doesnt matter because they only take the first grade for a prerequisite. period.</p>

<p>keep working hard.</p>

<p>Hi everyone, </p>

<p>I was just curious what kind of chance I stand of applying to Haas. I am applying next fall (from a j.c.) and I should hopefully have an overal g.p.a. of about a 3.8. I take a course load of about five classes per semester and always take classes over the summer and winter terms. I am applying though as a double major in history so I will be transferring over more than the 70 unit credit limit. Chances ?</p>

<p>But as of yet I currently have very little extra curriculars will that also play a factor ?</p>

<p>I think you should have a decent chance if u have a 3.8+</p>

<p>Make sure you get involved in something
maybe a business club
a sport
a job/internship in business field </p>

<p>if you do that i think you would have a chance</p>