Are summer program results reflective of future college admissions?

<p>The automatic full tuition and full ride scholarship list shows those not restricted to in-state residents.</p>

<p>Regarding the original question, one of my kids was rejected from TASP, Roswell Park, Lillehei, and National Cancer Center research. She ended up going to Operation Catapult at Rose-Hulman. And she got into U of Chicago and Swarthmore the next year. Don’t sweat it too much.</p>

<p>@intparent‌ ok I’ll admit that makes me feel a bit better. Also, I guess I shouldn’t sweat it too much considering no one from my school’s gotten into any of the ones I got rejected from and we regularly send ~10 kids to the Ivies +. </p>

<p>@ucbalumnus‌ I know I should spend more time looking into this but those 2 lists are massive and quite frankly I have no clue where to start. Where’s a good place to start looking into?</p>

<p>What are you criteria for selecting a school? Make a realistic list and prioritize. Make sure you select schools that fit all of your criteria that you will be happy at regardless. Plan on visiting the schools you are less sure about and make appts with the dean of the dept for your intended major. Do not just go on a campus tour.</p>

<p>The dean at one school immediately knocked it off ds’s list bc when ds asked him where their undergrad went to grad school, neither he nor the undergraduate advisor for the major could answer the question. Obviously they are not engaged in the success of their students! Ironically, it is a higher ranked school than where he is going. </p>

<p>Make sure to include financial safeties where you can see yourself attending. Finances turned out to be ds’s decision maker. Don’t apply only to highly competitive programs thinking that you will automatically earn one of their extremely select scholarships. Most definitely apply and try!! But if the scholarship is the only way you can afford the school, you need to have other plans in place so you aren’t financially shut out of good opportunities.</p>

<p>Have your parents sit with you and run Net Price Calculators for the schools on your original list before you apply if you haven’t already done so. What you are expected to pay is often a shock to some people. Typically, your EFC is out of pocket. The balance is made up in various ways…loans, both subsidized and unsubsidized, work study, grants. After running numbers, call the financial aid office with any questions. After working through some of the preliminary financials, rework your list.</p>

<p>I just went and looked at some of your other posts. You have quite an impressive list of accomplishments. Congrats! I would edit my above advice (if it would let me!) after looking at some of those posts and your family income. The biggest issue you should be aware of is schools that do not meet need. </p>

<p>Yes unfortunately my family can pay basically 0 out of pocket so 100% need is very important, which is what initially had me worrying because I know only highly selective schools offer to meet 100%. It’s hard for me to create a good list of safeties or matches because many “matches” do not offer enough aid and many public schools end up costing more than the Ivies. I guess I really need to get into one of my reaches haha </p>

<p>@kei04086‌ Hey kid! Come down :). Last year, I was in your very position: rejected by SIMR.</p>

<p>I just got into UCSD, UCLA, UCB, USC, UPenn, Georgetown, RiceU, CMU, Duke, NYU, Cornell, and Claremont McKenna. It is not indicative. At all. Please, calm down and enjoy the rest of your time before college admissions! If you have any questions, feel free to message me.</p>

<p>So I’m looking at this list of schools that claim to meet 100% of need</p>

<p><a href=“Colleges with Need-Blind Admission for U.S. Students”>Colleges with Need-Blind Admission for U.S. Students;

<p>I’m looking to major in chemical engineering so that puts LACs out of the question. On that list, the only schools that are not uber-selective (~20% acceptance) are Boston College, Notre Dame, Tufts, UVA, and Wash U although Wash U is bit of a stretch. BC doesn’t have engineering, and UVA and Notre Dame seem a bit too large only leaving Tufts and Wash U. I feel lost because I dont know where else to look and I definitely don’t feel confident enough to only apply to reaches + Tufts and Wash U + UCs. Can any CC whiz help me?</p>

<p>Can you imagine doing something else than Chemical engineering? (This may open up more possibilities).</p>

<p>Check out Gettysburg and Connecticut: both have schools of engineering and meet 100% need but are slightly less selective than the others - don’t know whether they have ChemE, but check them out. And since you don’t want them to think they’re your safeties, start filling out the “request info” or “join the mailing list” forms. In June, email the head of dept to ask a few questions about the major. Etc. If you show “interest”, you’ll be fine. :)</p>

<p>I do not think Gettysburg or Connecticut college have engineering majors. Maybe 3-2 options…</p>

<p>Exact, I confused them with other colleges :(, sorry.</p>

<p>@MYOS1634‌ Chemistry is my passion and I think I’m pretty dead set for ChemE, although I did consider pre-med for a bit. Thinking it over though, I don’t think pre-med is right for me as I don’t want to study for 10+ more years and want to get a job after undergrad, maybe going back to grad after some years in the field.</p>

<p>Do you have any other suggestions for need-meeting matches or safeties other than WashU and Tufts?</p>

<p>Perhaps Biochemistry and chemistry in addition to ChemE?
Sorry, just trying to find other opportunities for you.</p>

<p>BTW, you can major in anything you want AND be a premed student, premed is just a set of classes (chemistry, biology, Calculus, English…) that you have to take.</p>

<p>@MYOS1634‌ I suppose I could include chemistry/biochemistry in my search. Would you have recommendations in a broader search?</p>

<p>I know pre med isn’t an actual major, but I think most people do sciences like chemistry and biochemistry into pre med since engineering has extra requisites that would be hard to follow alongside a pre med track. It’s not like I’m 100% engineering or die yet so it wouldn’t hurt to go to a school with more options rather than a one dimensional school like Georgia Tech.</p>

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<p>Biochemistry and chemistry have worse career prospects than chemical engineering, so for a student who likes the subjects equally, it would not be unreasonable to use career prospects as the tiebreaker in favor of chemical engineering. Because of this, it may not be a good idea to choose a school that immediately closes off the first choice major of chemical engineering.</p>

<p>UC Riverside offers chemical engineering, and the OP can sign up for the admission guarantee during June 16-July 31, 2014 (see <a href=“New Students | Apply | Undergraduate Admissions | UC Riverside”>http://admissions.ucr.edu/WhyUCR/ourGuarantee&lt;/a&gt; ). Since UCs generally meet in-state need (although usually with about a $9,000 student contribution, needing both federal direct loan and some work earnings), that can be a safety if the OP is not too caught up in school-elitism (if the OP is too caught up in school-elitism, there may be no acceptable safeties at all – elite schools are selective enough to be non-safeties for anyone).</p>

<p>However, since the OP mentioned in other threads about family income from a foreign country, the OP should take note that filing a tax return with IRS Form 2555 (foreign earned income) can cause UC to classify the parent (and therefore student) as a non-resident for tuition purposes, as described in this thread: <a href=“ideas for a low income family to pay for non-resident tuition? - Financial Aid and Scholarships - College Confidential Forums”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-scholarships/1636355-ideas-for-a-low-income-family-to-pay-for-non-resident-tuition.html&lt;/a&gt; .</p>

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<p>Neither of these should be considered safeties for anyone.</p>

<p>Any of these schools would be excellent options. These are grad school rankings. There are lots of other programs not listed here that still have great reputations in industry. <a href=“http://www.che.ncsu.edu/about/ranking.html”>http://www.che.ncsu.edu/about/ranking.html&lt;/a&gt; NCSU has the Parks scholarship which is full ride (definitively competitive) and the Centennial Campus is amazing. </p>