<p>been troubling me for a while. i think they are.</p>
<p>If they are predetermined, you can’t do anything about it, so stop worrying.</p>
<p>Wait, you can’t do that either, unless you were meant to. Muhahaha.</p>
<p>exactly thats why i sometimes try do random stuff so i feel like im in control. like picking up my clothes. but then wus that me in control or was i predetermined to do that because i tried to be in control. ***. so confusing.</p>
<p>Yes, exactly what you said.</p>
<p>i’ve come to the conclusion that all your actions are all predetermined. all your past experiences and observations brought you to do what you did at the single moment in time. your choices are not random it is your experiences and observations. if you were to go back in time 1000^99 times you would make the same decision over and over. there is no hope. </p>
<p>so why do we live?</p>
<p>I think it’s oriented around perspective. As individuals we are entitled to certain comprehensions and perspectives of certain aspects. Each entitlement is equal, as no definitive evidence can ever truly be exemplified or claimed aside from the exception of thought. Despite this acknowledgment, doubt will always ensue. How else can we formulate claims? It’s simplistic to acquire the respect and admiration of others through certain actions that correspond with their preferences. However, as each opinion was derived from a common source, society, to gain a true comprehension of validity is a task inconceivable. In the end, this aspect solely compiles to form a sense of unpredictability. Perhaps the future solely portrays the unpredictability of life itself.</p>
<p>No .</p>
<p>wartty im not sure what your saying. so everyone has different perspectives so everything is unpredictable so fate does not exist?</p>
<p>Since each individual possesses an alternative perspective that is true to that individual, some believe that it is predictable, while others believe that it is not. Regardless of one’s perspective though, neither viewpoint can be definitively proven so the question is oriented solely around perspective and nothing more.</p>
<p>Alternate universes. Everytime you make a decision, you in another universe makes the opposite decision, leading to different outcomes. So technically, you are doing everything somewhere in the universe, if not another.</p>
<p>@wart surely there fate must exist or not exist. it doesnt exist from some people and not for others</p>
<p>@versii i disagree with alternate universes. if there is an alternative universe for every single different movement, decision, and action then there is an infinite amount of alternative universes. something can not be infinite. therefor alternative universes do not exist.</p>
<p>I didn’t state that it applied to specific individuals. What I did state was that your question cannot generate a definitive answer. Each individual will exemplify their own distinct perspective, something that may contradict with alternative individuals, thus initiating contrasting direct causes and reasoning.</p>
<p>if our actions are random then we are not responsible for them, but if our actions are determined then we still are not responsible for them- david hume</p>
<p>google Hume’s dilemma of determinism… for a bit more of an extensive metaphysical explanation of this question.</p>
<p>ah the skeptical approach. well then you can say that to everything. do you see green as blue instead of green as green? do you see the same object from a different angle? do you think megan fox is hot (no)?</p>
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Isn’t time infinite? Isn’t the universe infinite? You can’t possibly assume that the universe we live in is the only one out there.</p>
<p>I’m not saying that I believe in alternate universes.</p>
<p>Just that infinity makes no sense. So there’s no sense in making sense of it. Especially with that theory.</p>
<p>No, but your actions now will affect the situations later in this life and in your future lives because of karma.</p>
<p>My logic:</p>
<p>If our actions are predetermined, then our thoughts on the matter of free will are also predetermined. If they are predetermined, then why do they have any validity? If we had no real choice between the options, there is no reason to believe we chose the right one. Therefore we must assume we DO have free choice, as a statement that disproves the existence of proofs is of no use to us.</p>
<p>You’ll never know so get over it and stop worrying about it. The only thing I can really be sure of is my own mind, the rest could just be pigments of my imagination, I really can never be sure but I don’t sit around thinking about it all day, just quit getting yourself tied up over it and move on, do something productive.</p>