<p>If so...then what's this people talking about the number and competitiveness will increase in the years to come for class of 2011, 2012 etc...?</p>
<p>learn your grammar first</p>
<p>more kids = more competition</p>
<p>People need to stop buying into fads. Namely: pessimism. I don't know why, but people seem set on moaning about "OMG AMERICA'S SO STUPID BLAH BLAH!" There are periods of ups and downs in every aspect of every society. Just because America isn't regurgitating scientists left and right doesn't mean we're all morons.</p>
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<p>Uhh.......why?</p>
<p>this thread is very good evidence that American kids are in fact becoming more stupid. Case closed.</p>
<p>insecure101 doesn't have to be American, Pongo. The case is most decidedly open.</p>
<p>"learn your grammar first"</p>
<p>Haha. I concur.</p>
<p>Oh Noes We R Get'n Stoopider :(</p>
<p>Most Americans don't have the same motivation that people in India and China have. I'd probably agree that America is getting stupider.</p>
<p>Okay, in reality there is no such thing as stupid or smart since they are based on intelligence which you pretty much are born with (though it can slighty vary). When it all boils down, American kids just aren't as motivated as Chinese and Indian kids because over there they don't already have everything spoon fed for them or served on a silver platter.</p>
<p>Not true. America is a highly intelligent nation as a whole. Sure, there are more and more stupid cases being publicized, and perhaps next to nations where hard work is drilled into one's brain from day one (such as China, Japan, and India), America looks dumb, but that is not a fair comparison.</p>
<p>America also tries give every student a chance. Where we have special teachers helping kids in need and learning disabled here, other countries drive those kids out of school in sixth grade.</p>
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People need to stop buying into fads. Namely: pessimism. I don't know why, but people seem set on moaning about "OMG AMERICA'S SO STUPID BLAH BLAH!" There are periods of ups and downs in every aspect of every society. Just because America isn't regurgitating scientists left and right doesn't mean we're all morons.
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I beg to differ....
I think America gives too much extra help to this kids and not enough dicipline. I moved to America from India when I was in 1st Grade and I didn't start learning anything until 7th grade. I mean, it it was a a year or two gap, it's understandable, but 6 years? Also, most kids here seem to be happy with a C... One example of this prime stupidness is one of my American friends. One time, I was hangin out with all my asian friends, and he was the only American, so we started to make fun of him, an how dumb American and European kids are, and we were saying how hard schools are in other places... So he says:
Jim: "You people don't know how hard American and European schools are. You have to PASS middle school to go to High School."
Oh, and I forgot to mention, he's one of the smarter people in my school.</p>
<p>Firstly, america is not getting stupider. About half of the country is getting MUCH stupider while the other half is getting smarter. The gap between the smart and stupid is widening.</p>
<p>Secondly, many of the most competitive applicants are coming from overseas.</p>
<p>America is not getting stupider, but it is failing in the sciences. During the Cold War there was a big push to become science-educated so that we could use technology to best our opponents. In the post-Cold War era, we have become complacent at best; at worst, religion has begun to trump science.</p>
<p>We now need to return to the belief that scientific progress is an indicator of and a requisite to success.</p>
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<p>"we started to make fun of him, an how dumb American and European kids are"</p>
<p>ehem......so why the hell do you want to study in their Universities? </p>
<p>Just a point to be made. And I am an international student too, btw. I don't think either Americans or Europeans are dumb. I wouldn't say any society as a whole is dumb or smart. I bet the percentage of "stupid" and "smart", "motivated" and "unmotivated" (very ambiguous terms) is the same throughout the entire world.</p>
<p>We'll just keep importing.</p>
<p>I agree with wrathofachilles. I also think that laziness is increasing. There is not the cultural standard of excellence that prevails in other nations (like India and China). On average, people don't want to learn for the sake of learning.</p>
<p>The majority of public schools (including mine) are mediocre at best - AP and honors classes offer some chance to excel, but it is too little too late. While no child will be left behind, many are being restrained in the government's efforts to achieve overall competence.</p>
<p>I agree with nachontondi.."stupid" is an ambigous term. If stupid means not getting straight a's and 2400 SAT's then no, obviously America is not getting more stupid because there will always be people bounded to excell in a school system in the USA, in France, or in China. However we're entering in a mass society were people read less, think less by themselves, are more fanaticed, are waaaaay more trvial and in general are less cultivated. We're becoming more and more science consumers and we're leaving behing important values that used to push man in past generations to creat, to ask questions and to use all it's intellectual faculties. Right now we're all drunk in technology and communications, in idiotic cosmogirl magazins and MTV...This is world wide of course, but the USA is right now for it's fortune and for our disgrace the cultural leader of the moment, so our decadence i would say it's led somehow by them. However is not America with it's manicheism and it's plastic products to blame, it's us, the rest of the world who follow like blind sheeps the guidelines of this enormous nation.
Sorry by any grammar/spelling mistakes...not a perfect english speaker lol</p>