<p>TungTranIsHot: Youre stilkl
TungTranIsHot: calling them retarded
TungTranIsHot: When they are not
TungTranIsHot: LoL
TungTranIsHot: o<em>o
TungTranIsHot: That means youre generalizing them in a derogative way
TungTranIsHot: Generalizing an entire race
TungTranIsHot: Therefore that equals racism.
K h N z 7 8 6 7: actually ur the one that's generalizing them in a derogative way...
TungTranIsHot: Hispanics?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: because ur just assuming that retardation is derogative..
TungTranIsHot: Youre assuming that ALL hispanics are retarded
TungTranIsHot: :-)
TungTranIsHot: When they're not
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no i didnt
TungTranIsHot: Yes you did
TungTranIsHot: lol
K h N z 7 8 6 7: K h N z 7 8 6 7: generally.. MOST hispanic people are dull...
TungTranIsHot: nope
TungTranIsHot: Tahts not what you said
K h N z 7 8 6 7: yes...
TungTranIsHot: You said that after
TungTranIsHot: I pointed that out
TungTranIsHot: You said
TungTranIsHot: "Hispanics are retarded"
K h N z 7 8 6 7: yea...
TungTranIsHot: You chose to change your view after I pointed out what you meant
TungTranIsHot: And tell me
K h N z 7 8 6 7: but i never specifically stated that ALL hispanic people are retarded..
TungTranIsHot: Yes you did
TungTranIsHot: lol
TungTranIsHot: Yesterday as I recall
K h N z 7 8 6 7: i said Hispanic people are retarded..
K h N z 7 8 6 7: and specifically stated MOST... thereafter..
TungTranIsHot: You did not say "some"
TungTranIsHot: No
K h N z 7 8 6 7: yea
TungTranIsHot: In the beginning
TungTranIsHot: All you said
TungTranIsHot: was
TungTranIsHot: "Hispanics are retarded"
K h N z 7 8 6 7: i know.. it was a vague statement at first...
TungTranIsHot: Don't try to change what you said o</em>o
K h N z 7 8 6 7: but i specified after..
K h N z 7 8 6 7: right?
TungTranIsHot: You only specified
TungTranIsHot: Because you knew it was wrong
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no i didnt..
TungTranIsHot: So you tried to cover it up
TungTranIsHot: LoL
K h N z 7 8 6 7: tung ur just upset that im right..
K h N z 7 8 6 7: because u know its true..
TungTranIsHot: Youre right?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: i know ur train of though..
K h N z 7 8 6 7: thought
TungTranIsHot: Youre the one saying that because I don't like lazy people, that its racism.
TungTranIsHot: LoL
K h N z 7 8 6 7: you feel that ur better than others..
TungTranIsHot: Of course, everyone knows that laziness refers to a race of people
TungTranIsHot: How could I miss that?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: now ur just changing the subject
TungTranIsHot: You JUST called hispanics retarded.
TungTranIsHot: Whos thinking whos better?
TungTranIsHot: Dont try to contradict yourself.
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ok u idiot
K h N z 7 8 6 7: i ONLY said they are retarded
K h N z 7 8 6 7: i never said im better than them
TungTranIsHot: Tell me
TungTranIsHot: tell me
K h N z 7 8 6 7: just because they are retarded
TungTranIsHot: ARE THEY ALL RETARDED?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: doesnt mean they're greater or lesser than anyone
TungTranIsHot: Are they all retarded?
TungTranIsHot: Every single last hispanic is retarded?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no not ALL of them are retarded
TungTranIsHot: Ok
TungTranIsHot: Thats not what you said :-)
TungTranIsHot: Btw
TungTranIsHot: I don't know where you get your definition of "racism" from.
K h N z 7 8 6 7: and im not saying MENTAL retardation
TungTranIsHot: Exactly
TungTranIsHot: That means
TungTranIsHot: Youre insulting their
TungTranIsHot: race
TungTranIsHot: as a whole
TungTranIsHot: lol
TungTranIsHot: Youre not stating fact
K h N z 7 8 6 7: i dont think this is a laughing matter..
TungTranIsHot: Youre stating an opinion on an entire race o_o
K h N z 7 8 6 7: yes
K h N z 7 8 6 7: i am
TungTranIsHot: Ok then
TungTranIsHot: Thats racism lol
K h N z 7 8 6 7: and blatantly.. and i feel it is true
K h N z 7 8 6 7: thats not racism
TungTranIsHot: Then don't be a hypocrit
TungTranIsHot: ok
TungTranIsHot: So youre saying
TungTranIsHot: If I said
K h N z 7 8 6 7: im not
TungTranIsHot: All black people are retarded
TungTranIsHot: thats not racism
TungTranIsHot: right?
TungTranIsHot: But
TungTranIsHot: Saying
TungTranIsHot: I hate lazy people
TungTranIsHot: equals racism?
TungTranIsHot: Is that how you see it?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
K h N z 7 8 6 7: thats racism
TungTranIsHot: Right so youre saying lazy people are a race?
TungTranIsHot: Look at that
TungTranIsHot: HUMAN
TungTranIsHot: RACES
TungTranIsHot: Is laziness a human race?
TungTranIsHot: LoL
TungTranIsHot: inherent differences among the various human races
TungTranIsHot: that one's own race is superior
K h N z 7 8 6 7: and when did i say one race is superiour to the other?
TungTranIsHot: You said HISPANIC
TungTranIsHot: Omg
K h N z 7 8 6 7: a race is any population that is anyway so related
TungTranIsHot: You don't even know the definition
TungTranIsHot: To what youre arguing against
K h N z 7 8 6 7: I SIMPLY SAID THEY ARE RETARDED
TungTranIsHot: So tell me. How does that definition prove that Im racist?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: What is wrong w/ being retarded?
TungTranIsHot: YOU JUST SAID
TungTranIsHot: NOT MENTAL RETARDATION
K h N z 7 8 6 7: Exactly
TungTranIsHot: That means youre insulting them on their background
TungTranIsHot: not because of a birth defect
K h N z 7 8 6 7: How?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ok
K h N z 7 8 6 7: if i said
K h N z 7 8 6 7: NOT mentally Retarded
K h N z 7 8 6 7: how am i explaining a birth defect?
TungTranIsHot: Retarded = stupid, derogatory statement used to put down others
TungTranIsHot: You said
TungTranIsHot: Hispanics are retarded
TungTranIsHot: Youre putting down an entire race
K h N z 7 8 6 7: retarded isnt always a derogative term
TungTranIsHot: Omg
TungTranIsHot: Youre so retarded
K h N z 7 8 6 7: only if you are using it in that context
TungTranIsHot: Yes
TungTranIsHot: You are
K h N z 7 8 6 7: im not
K h N z 7 8 6 7: i never do
TungTranIsHot: You try to change
K h N z 7 8 6 7: see
TungTranIsHot: the subject
K h N z 7 8 6 7: At what point did i change the subject?
TungTranIsHot: And try to find a loophole
TungTranIsHot: ITS OBVIOUS what you said
TungTranIsHot: And you don't even make sense
K h N z 7 8 6 7: look tung...
TungTranIsHot: You have no backing to proving that I'm racist
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ur used to using "Retarded" in a negative connotation
K h N z 7 8 6 7: and thats ur own fault for being so negative.
TungTranIsHot: It is. Its obvious in what context you used it as
TungTranIsHot: Okay
TungTranIsHot: Tell me
TungTranIsHot: Waht retarded means
K h N z 7 8 6 7: slow or diminutive
TungTranIsHot: If it doesnt mean mental retardation
TungTranIsHot: okay then
TungTranIsHot: thats still negative
TungTranIsHot: lol
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no its not
K h N z 7 8 6 7: SE
K h N z 7 8 6 7: SEE
K h N z 7 8 6 7: Thats what im saying
TungTranIsHot: Are you telling me that means positive?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: What's wrong w/ being slow?
TungTranIsHot: Omg
TungTranIsHot: You don't make sense
K h N z 7 8 6 7: SEE
K h N z 7 8 6 7: THATS WHAT IM SAYING
TungTranIsHot: You say its not a mental defect
K h N z 7 8 6 7: U HAVE A PROBLEM W/ SLOW PEOPLE
TungTranIsHot: but you say "whats wrong with being slow"
TungTranIsHot: YOU DO
TungTranIsHot: IM NOT THE ONE
TungTranIsHot: SAYIGN
K h N z 7 8 6 7: im not saying MENTALLY slow
TungTranIsHot: HISPANICS
TungTranIsHot: ARE RETARDED
TungTranIsHot: EACTLY
TungTranIsHot: I even told Melissa what youve been saying
TungTranIsHot: And she told me you don't know what the hell you're saying
K h N z 7 8 6 7: so?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: i dont care -- I feel im right
K h N z 7 8 6 7: and i discussed this w/ ashley
TungTranIsHot: You like to start conflicts with others
K h N z 7 8 6 7: and she said im right
TungTranIsHot: And when you feel wrong, you try to find loopholes
K h N z 7 8 6 7: im not finding any loopholes
K h N z 7 8 6 7: u keep bringing it up...
TungTranIsHot: Okay tell me. According to that definition of racism
K h N z 7 8 6 7: if you felt u were right... u would have dropped it
TungTranIsHot: How does that prove taht I am racist?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: AT WHAT POINT DID I SAY THAT ONE RACE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER?
TungTranIsHot: You called an entire race slow
K h N z 7 8 6 7: You tell me
K h N z 7 8 6 7: WHAT IS WRONG WITH BEING SLOW?!
K h N z 7 8 6 7: TELL ME TUNG
TungTranIsHot: Youre generalizing an entire race of people
K h N z 7 8 6 7: I HAVENT MADE ANY RACIST REMARKS...
TungTranIsHot: Thats the point
K h N z 7 8 6 7: there is no fault in generalizing
TungTranIsHot: So youre saying. If I said. All Indian people are retarded
TungTranIsHot: Would that be racism?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no it wouldnt
TungTranIsHot: Wow
TungTranIsHot: LoL
K h N z 7 8 6 7: but
TungTranIsHot: Actually
K h N z 7 8 6 7: if you
K h N z 7 8 6 7: Say
TungTranIsHot: I know how you mean it
TungTranIsHot: It depends on how the person takes it
K h N z 7 8 6 7: That you dont like.. Dumb people
TungTranIsHot: So youre telling me
K h N z 7 8 6 7: THATS racism
TungTranIsHot: Dumb people = race of people
TungTranIsHot: Right?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: yes
TungTranIsHot: Wow
TungTranIsHot: LoL
TungTranIsHot: Ive never heard of it
TungTranIsHot: They have different colored skin?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: nope
K h N z 7 8 6 7: they dont have to</p>
<p>TungTranIsHot: What skin color do they have?
TungTranIsHot: Btw.
K h N z 7 8 6 7: race is not ONLY defined by heritage
TungTranIsHot: Its Lazy
TungTranIsHot: not dumb
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no
TungTranIsHot: I explained to you before
K h N z 7 8 6 7: i asked you
K h N z 7 8 6 7: and taylor
TungTranIsHot: And I said. Dumb = people who don't try
K h N z 7 8 6 7: Do you like Dumb people
K h N z 7 8 6 7: you both said no
TungTranIsHot: My definition of dumb = different
TungTranIsHot: As I told you BEFORE
TungTranIsHot: Dumb people are people who refuse to try
K h N z 7 8 6 7: who's finding loopholes now?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: and i explained to you yesterday
K h N z 7 8 6 7: why they refuse to try
TungTranIsHot: Whos finding loopholes to make it right to generalize an entire race of people
TungTranIsHot: lol
K h N z 7 8 6 7: and thats not a good enough reason not to like them
K h N z 7 8 6 7: thats racism
TungTranIsHot: Youre saying that all hispanics are slow. Then I know many people
TungTranIsHot: who are brilliant
TungTranIsHot: More then you can imagine
K h N z 7 8 6 7: OMG
TungTranIsHot: Are they slow?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: I said most hispanic people are slow
TungTranIsHot: you said
TungTranIsHot: "Hispanics are retarded"
K h N z 7 8 6 7: but generalizing hispanic people doesnt always include EVERYONE
TungTranIsHot: You see retarded as a differnet way
TungTranIsHot: as I see the word "dumb"
TungTranIsHot: Youre being a hypocrit to your own ideals
K h N z 7 8 6 7: see
K h N z 7 8 6 7: u see them in a derogative way
K h N z 7 8 6 7: even in ur sight
K h N z 7 8 6 7: not liking dumb people
TungTranIsHot: And you see dumb in a derogative way
TungTranIsHot: correct?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: is still racism
TungTranIsHot: You see dumb in a derogative way as well
TungTranIsHot: Just as I see retarded
K h N z 7 8 6 7: as i feel its not a valid excuse to not like them
TungTranIsHot: But I didn't say it about an entire RACE
TungTranIsHot: of people
K h N z 7 8 6 7: yes you did
TungTranIsHot: RACE does not equal LAZY
TungTranIsHot: RACE = SKIN
TungTranIsHot: ETHNIC BACKGROUND
K h N z 7 8 6 7: NO IT DOESNT
TungTranIsHot: CULTURAL BACKGROUND
K h N z 7 8 6 7: NO IT DOESNT
K h N z 7 8 6 7: NOT IT DOESNT
TungTranIsHot: Read it in the dictionary
K h N z 7 8 6 7: it doesnt
TungTranIsHot: READ YOUR OWN
TungTranIsHot: DEFINITION
TungTranIsHot: and then tell me what it is
TungTranIsHot: cultural
TungTranIsHot: cultural
TungTranIsHot: cultural
TungTranIsHot: cultural
K h N z 7 8 6 7: a population so related.
K h N z 7 8 6 7: thats a race
K h N z 7 8 6 7: it doesnt have to be ethnic or cultural link
TungTranIsHot: a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
TungTranIsHot: It does nto say a population so related
TungTranIsHot: cultural
K h N z 7 8 6 7: thats the defintion of RACE
K h N z 7 8 6 7: not racism
TungTranIsHot: No
TungTranIsHot: thats the definition of racism
K h N z 7 8 6 7: right
TungTranIsHot: <a href="http://www.dictionary.com%5B/url%5D">www.dictionary.com</a>
K h N z 7 8 6 7: but i defined RACE
TungTranIsHot: so?
TungTranIsHot: WEre not defining race
TungTranIsHot: Race
TungTranIsHot: racism
K h N z 7 8 6 7: TungTranIsHot: cultural </p>
<p>TungTranIsHot: cultural </p>
<p>TungTranIsHot: cultural </p>
<p>TungTranIsHot: cultural </p>
<p>TungTranIsHot: Thats the definition of racism
K h N z 7 8 6 7: right
TungTranIsHot: Ok
TungTranIsHot: Ill amke you a deal
K h N z 7 8 6 7: or individual
TungTranIsHot: Will go to
TungTranIsHot: will go to
K h N z 7 8 6 7: it doesnt have to be cultural
TungTranIsHot: 10 different people
TungTranIsHot: And well ask them
TungTranIsHot: "If you say "Hispanics are retarded", is that racism?"
TungTranIsHot: And then Ill ask
K h N z 7 8 6 7: tung...
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ull go and ask ignorant hispanic people
TungTranIsHot: "If I say "I don't like dumb people", is that racism?"
TungTranIsHot: Well ask
TungTranIsHot: white people
TungTranIsHot: :-)
TungTranIsHot: actualyl
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no
TungTranIsHot: well ask anyone you want
TungTranIsHot: And then well get the answers
TungTranIsHot: You can choose
TungTranIsHot: whoever you want
TungTranIsHot: Deal?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: we'll ask ppl in calc
TungTranIsHot: You can't ask people
TungTranIsHot: youve alreayd influenced
K h N z 7 8 6 7: why not?
TungTranIsHot: Youre gonna ask people
TungTranIsHot: neither of us know
TungTranIsHot: Because, I don't want people who have bene influenced
TungTranIsHot: Its going to be a new slate.
K h N z 7 8 6 7: well
TungTranIsHot: Thats the only fair way to do it
K h N z 7 8 6 7: see thats not fair
K h N z 7 8 6 7: because
TungTranIsHot: Don't agree?
TungTranIsHot: How is that not fair?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ull just ask people that have a view of general dogma
TungTranIsHot: Thats how it should be percieved
TungTranIsHot: w/o any
TungTranIsHot: external influences
TungTranIsHot: Im not influencing them
TungTranIsHot: nor you
K h N z 7 8 6 7: hold on
TungTranIsHot: So its even
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no
K h N z 7 8 6 7: because
TungTranIsHot: No?
TungTranIsHot: Because youll know what theyll say?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: its not fair -- because i wont be able to make a point when i have valid evidence
TungTranIsHot: thats the point
K h N z 7 8 6 7: and ur just going to take advantage of general belief
TungTranIsHot: no evidence is presented
TungTranIsHot: So they can make
TungTranIsHot: their own decisions
TungTranIsHot: from what they know
K h N z 7 8 6 7: thats like going before a jury and asking them if OJ simpson murdered his wife
TungTranIsHot: Racism = a general belief
K h N z 7 8 6 7: w/o an evidence
TungTranIsHot: They have evidence
TungTranIsHot: theyve been exposesd to the world
K h N z 7 8 6 7: yea...
K h N z 7 8 6 7: PRIOR to my argument
TungTranIsHot: Thats their evidence
TungTranIsHot: You can't tamper with the jury
TungTranIsHot: Or we can present
TungTranIsHot: in AP calc
TungTranIsHot: btu'
TungTranIsHot: we say nothing
K h N z 7 8 6 7: wait
K h N z 7 8 6 7: brb
TungTranIsHot: of our views
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no
K h N z 7 8 6 7: loser.. its not tampering w/ the jury
K h N z 7 8 6 7: u wont let me present my view
K h N z 7 8 6 7: and thats not fair
TungTranIsHot: it is
TungTranIsHot: because im not rpesenting mine
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no its not
K h N z 7 8 6 7: because
K h N z 7 8 6 7: everyone thinks like you
K h N z 7 8 6 7: very narrowminded
TungTranIsHot: Its obviously accepted for "some" reason
K h N z 7 8 6 7: well
K h N z 7 8 6 7: do you think they would agree w/ me if i presented my argument?
TungTranIsHot: Nope.
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ait ill BRB
K h N z 7 8 6 7: why not?
TungTranIsHot: Because the definition of racism doesn't support what you say
TungTranIsHot: the dictionary is the ultimate decider
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ofcourse it does
K h N z 7 8 6 7: and ur the one that pulled the definition out hte of the dictionary
TungTranIsHot: You did before me
TungTranIsHot: lol
K h N z 7 8 6 7: well ur just proving my point
TungTranIsHot: I just recited it
TungTranIsHot: Well ask
TungTranIsHot: everyone in class
TungTranIsHot: And well see what happens
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no because u wont let me present my side
TungTranIsHot: Without presenting my case
TungTranIsHot: Well know
TungTranIsHot: what everyone thinks
TungTranIsHot: Without it
K h N z 7 8 6 7: OBVIOUSLY
TungTranIsHot: And it should prove that youre the only one
TungTranIsHot: that thinks this way
TungTranIsHot: But in the end
K h N z 7 8 6 7: open mindedly?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ur so narrowminded
TungTranIsHot: Its just an opinion
TungTranIsHot: Obviously we have different opinions
TungTranIsHot: and neither of us are willing to budge
TungTranIsHot: so we both
TungTranIsHot: are narrow minded
TungTranIsHot: :-)
K h N z 7 8 6 7: UHH
K h N z 7 8 6 7: NO WAY
K h N z 7 8 6 7: tung
TungTranIsHot: Sorry bud
TungTranIsHot: Thats how it is
TungTranIsHot: Case cloosed
K h N z 7 8 6 7: u are VERY narrowminded
TungTranIsHot: Im gonna go do my homeowkr
TungTranIsHot: So are you
K h N z 7 8 6 7: i accept everyone
TungTranIsHot: Lol
TungTranIsHot: You don't accept people
K h N z 7 8 6 7: regardless of their mental capacity
TungTranIsHot: when you call people "slow"
K h N z 7 8 6 7: skin color
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ok
K h N z 7 8 6 7: calling them slow doesnt reject them
TungTranIsHot: Youre calling them inferior
K h N z 7 8 6 7: NO IM NOT
TungTranIsHot: to "normal" speed
TungTranIsHot: yes you are
TungTranIsHot: "slow" is not normal
TungTranIsHot: lol
K h N z 7 8 6 7: there's no such thing as NORMAL
TungTranIsHot: Youre thinking that just because theyre "slow" they should still be accepted
TungTranIsHot: But if you were accepting
TungTranIsHot: you wouldnt be calling anyone slow
TungTranIsHot: in the first place
TungTranIsHot: lol
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no
K h N z 7 8 6 7: its just a general description</p>
<p>i lost interest when I realized it is going to take multiple posts. Life's too short.</p>
<p>K h N z 7 8 6 7: nothing wrong w/ describing them
TungTranIsHot: Obviously
K h N z 7 8 6 7: Thats like me saying
K h N z 7 8 6 7: Black people have dark skin
K h N z 7 8 6 7: anything derogative about that?
TungTranIsHot: I know what youre saying, but how many people will actually come to your side
TungTranIsHot: If it shows
TungTranIsHot: that even with yur arguement
TungTranIsHot: I havent changed
TungTranIsHot: ?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ?
TungTranIsHot: Look at it this way
TungTranIsHot: Youre trying to change my view
TungTranIsHot: And obviously it failed
K h N z 7 8 6 7: im not
TungTranIsHot: So how many people d you know
K h N z 7 8 6 7: im just saying
TungTranIsHot: will change
TungTranIsHot: ?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ur a racist
TungTranIsHot: Even with your points of view
K h N z 7 8 6 7: im not trying to change anything
K h N z 7 8 6 7: im just pointing out to you
TungTranIsHot: thats your vie
TungTranIsHot: and my view
TungTranIsHot: is that youre racist
K h N z 7 8 6 7: that u are INDEED a racist
TungTranIsHot: LoL
TungTranIsHot: And in my book
TungTranIsHot: You are racist
TungTranIsHot: as well
TungTranIsHot: lol
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ok
TungTranIsHot: But according to the dictionary
K h N z 7 8 6 7: but you cant say that ur not a racist either
TungTranIsHot: It supports my
TungTranIsHot: inference
TungTranIsHot: more than it does yours
K h N z 7 8 6 7: what are you talking about?
TungTranIsHot: And you can't say that youre not racist either
TungTranIsHot: correct?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: nope
K h N z 7 8 6 7: you tell me how im a racist
TungTranIsHot: were both racists then
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no
K h N z 7 8 6 7: because
TungTranIsHot: You generalized a race
TungTranIsHot: BUT
TungTranIsHot: your definition is race
K h N z 7 8 6 7: I said hispanic people are slow... right?
TungTranIsHot: from different from mine
TungTranIsHot: so both ideas conflict
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no
K h N z 7 8 6 7: Tell me
K h N z 7 8 6 7: Did i call hispanic people slow?
TungTranIsHot: Yes
TungTranIsHot: lol
K h N z 7 8 6 7: What's so derogatory about that?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: You said.. You dont like dumb people.
TungTranIsHot: Because theyre not "up to speed"
TungTranIsHot: You might not take it as a deroative statement
TungTranIsHot: but
K h N z 7 8 6 7: see.. thats just adds to your racist charracter
TungTranIsHot: Hispanics will
TungTranIsHot: tell me
TungTranIsHot: If you said
TungTranIsHot: Hispanics are slow
K h N z 7 8 6 7: because u assume.. that they "are not up to speed"
TungTranIsHot: EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T MEAN IT THAT WAY
TungTranIsHot: Will they not take it offensivley?
TungTranIsHot: It doesnt matter what you think is racist
TungTranIsHot: it matters what they thnk of it
TungTranIsHot: You gotta be in their shoes
TungTranIsHot: It doesnt matter what you think, but the person who recieves the comment
TungTranIsHot: Correct?
TungTranIsHot: o_O
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ok... if someone calls me a terrorist...
K h N z 7 8 6 7: i dont take any offense...
K h N z 7 8 6 7: sooo...
TungTranIsHot: But tahts you
TungTranIsHot: You get my idea?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: im not a hypocrite.. as you stated before..
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no
K h N z 7 8 6 7: because
K h N z 7 8 6 7: u are a racist.. calling ME a racist..
TungTranIsHot: It doesn't matter waht you say, but what the person who recieves the comment percieves it as
TungTranIsHot: Im not
TungTranIsHot: lol
TungTranIsHot: Its not a race
TungTranIsHot: lazy people
TungTranIsHot: are not a race
TungTranIsHot: lol
K h N z 7 8 6 7: yes they are
TungTranIsHot: hispanics are
K h N z 7 8 6 7: look up race in the dictionary
K h N z 7 8 6 7: do it right now
TungTranIsHot: You already showed me
TungTranIsHot: But how is it percieved in
TungTranIsHot: society?
TungTranIsHot: race
TungTranIsHot: color
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no
TungTranIsHot: culture
K h N z 7 8 6 7: it shouldnt be
TungTranIsHot: But it is
TungTranIsHot: Thats the general belief
K h N z 7 8 6 7: thats how narrowminded people concieve it
TungTranIsHot: No
K h N z 7 8 6 7: yes
TungTranIsHot: But that doesn;t even matter
TungTranIsHot: because
TungTranIsHot: you are percieved racist
TungTranIsHot: by the person you insult
TungTranIsHot: If I called yuo dumb
TungTranIsHot: If I called a person
TungTranIsHot: dumb
TungTranIsHot: They would not call me racist
TungTranIsHot: But
TungTranIsHot: If I said
TungTranIsHot: To a hispanic
TungTranIsHot: Hispanics are dumb
TungTranIsHot: How would they percieve that?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: in a derogative
K h N z 7 8 6 7: way
K h N z 7 8 6 7: because
TungTranIsHot: RIGHT
TungTranIsHot: But!
K h N z 7 8 6 7: dumb is different from slow
TungTranIsHot: You are not the one who decides if it is positive or negative
TungTranIsHot: Correct?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no
TungTranIsHot: What do yu mean no?
TungTranIsHot: LoL
K h N z 7 8 6 7: a narrowminded person would concieve it negatively
TungTranIsHot: When you insult someone, you control how they percieve that insult?
TungTranIsHot: Tell me
TungTranIsHot: Do you control their mind?
TungTranIsHot: No
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no
TungTranIsHot: You have no way of controling how they percieve it
TungTranIsHot: because
TungTranIsHot: its not your choice
TungTranIsHot: Youre not the one being insulted
K h N z 7 8 6 7: but wait
TungTranIsHot: They decide wether to take it personally or not
K h N z 7 8 6 7: you're just proving my point
K h N z 7 8 6 7: tung
K h N z 7 8 6 7: isnt it true
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ok.. if everything that you said is true
K h N z 7 8 6 7: would that not mean.. that the person is narrowminded?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: yes?
TungTranIsHot: Maybe
TungTranIsHot: But
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no
TungTranIsHot: It still doesnt excuse the fact
K h N z 7 8 6 7: its a yes/no question
TungTranIsHot: that youre not the one deciding
TungTranIsHot: whos racist
TungTranIsHot: Neither of us can do that
K h N z 7 8 6 7: why not?
TungTranIsHot: Because we don't recieve the insults
K h N z 7 8 6 7: if you dont like Dumb people
K h N z 7 8 6 7: you're a racist
K h N z 7 8 6 7: yes?
TungTranIsHot: In my view no
TungTranIsHot: But in yours yes
K h N z 7 8 6 7: why not?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: Wait
K h N z 7 8 6 7: why not?
TungTranIsHot: because you cant control me
K h N z 7 8 6 7: sure
TungTranIsHot: If I called indians retarded
K h N z 7 8 6 7: but u still are a racist..
TungTranIsHot: yuo wouldn't take ti epronslally
TungTranIsHot: but I would
K h N z 7 8 6 7: PPsh I agree w/ that
TungTranIsHot: so are you?
TungTranIsHot: LoL
K h N z 7 8 6 7: Indians are retarded
TungTranIsHot: If you go to anyone
TungTranIsHot: and call their race
TungTranIsHot: RETARDED
TungTranIsHot: Theyre gonna call you racist
TungTranIsHot: lol
TungTranIsHot: I agree
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ok.. i went to india fest and called all the indians retarded...
K h N z 7 8 6 7: they just got ****ed
TungTranIsHot: that is the general belief
K h N z 7 8 6 7: they didnt call me racist..
TungTranIsHot: but no one is gonna be as abstract as you
TungTranIsHot: If you called viet people racist
TungTranIsHot: er
TungTranIsHot: retarded
TungTranIsHot: I would think youre racist
K h N z 7 8 6 7: obviously..
K h N z 7 8 6 7: because they're a narrowminded
TungTranIsHot: no</p>
<p>K h N z 7 8 6 7: and thats not my fault..
TungTranIsHot: You can't call them narrowminded
K h N z 7 8 6 7: why not?
TungTranIsHot: not everyone is abstract as you
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ok..
K h N z 7 8 6 7: what do you mean by "abstract"?
TungTranIsHot: Tell me
K h N z 7 8 6 7: because i can concieve that in many ways..
TungTranIsHot: When the KK say
K h N z 7 8 6 7: the KKK is racist
K h N z 7 8 6 7: because
K h N z 7 8 6 7: they HATE other people
TungTranIsHot: Look
TungTranIsHot: I know your intentions
TungTranIsHot: about hispanic people
TungTranIsHot: are not hatred
TungTranIsHot: BUT
TungTranIsHot: YOURE NOT THE ONE RECIEVEING THE INSULT
TungTranIsHot: YOU CANOT
TungTranIsHot: CANNOT
K h N z 7 8 6 7: brb
K h N z 7 8 6 7: gotta eat
TungTranIsHot: control the one who recieves it
TungTranIsHot: Just because you didn't mean it, doesnt give you the excuse to say that
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ofcourse i meant it
TungTranIsHot: youre saying
TungTranIsHot: ok
TungTranIsHot: This is how
K h N z 7 8 6 7: if i didnt mean it
TungTranIsHot: I see it
K h N z 7 8 6 7: why would i say it
TungTranIsHot: You dont mean to ay slow as a bad way
K h N z 7 8 6 7: yea
TungTranIsHot: BuBut the people you say it to
TungTranIsHot: Don't know what you mean
TungTranIsHot: so it doesn't excuse you frmo what you said
K h N z 7 8 6 7: right
K h N z 7 8 6 7: because
TungTranIsHot: therefore
K h N z 7 8 6 7: i said what i meant
TungTranIsHot: you don't control their views
K h N z 7 8 6 7: so.. that makes them narrowminded
TungTranIsHot: Obviously, because you view
TungTranIsHot: dumb people as a race
TungTranIsHot: youre obviously gonna call me a racist
K h N z 7 8 6 7: yea
TungTranIsHot: But thats not what its usually defined as
TungTranIsHot: which is generally accepted by society
TungTranIsHot: thats a differnet issue
K h N z 7 8 6 7: well
TungTranIsHot: But
TungTranIsHot: What Im saying
K h N z 7 8 6 7: what other word would you want me to use?
TungTranIsHot: Is that you don't control wether youre racist or not
TungTranIsHot: Biased
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no
K h N z 7 8 6 7: not for racist..
K h N z 7 8 6 7: for slow or retarded
TungTranIsHot: Look
TungTranIsHot: It doesn't matter waht we think
TungTranIsHot: Because were not the one recieveing the insult
TungTranIsHot: Right?
TungTranIsHot: Its like
TungTranIsHot: Lemme giv eyou an example
K h N z 7 8 6 7: well.. im calling you a racist.. now i dont care how u percieve it...
K h N z 7 8 6 7: but...thats how it is..
TungTranIsHot: Just beacuse you commited a crime, and you don't think its a crime
TungTranIsHot: Will you still be arrested?
TungTranIsHot: Yes?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: yes
TungTranIsHot: If you murder someone, and dont think its wrong
TungTranIsHot: Youre still going to be arrested
TungTranIsHot: right?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: UNLESS
TungTranIsHot: Thats the same concept
K h N z 7 8 6 7: you prove your reasoning
K h N z 7 8 6 7: like look
TungTranIsHot: Its the same concept
K h N z 7 8 6 7: Say you killed your country's blood-thirsty tyrant
K h N z 7 8 6 7: would people arrest you and put you in jail?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: or celebrate your action?
TungTranIsHot: Thats totally different
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no its not
K h N z 7 8 6 7: because..
TungTranIsHot: Because its not to the degree of racism
K h N z 7 8 6 7: if the people know your intentions
TungTranIsHot: You can't be a matyr
TungTranIsHot: You can't be a matyr when you insult someone
TungTranIsHot: You cant say
K h N z 7 8 6 7: a martyr?
TungTranIsHot: I insulted Hispanics because they ruined the world
TungTranIsHot: Yes
TungTranIsHot: You place yourself as a matyr by saying you killed a tyrant
TungTranIsHot: But
TungTranIsHot: And get jailed for it
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no wait
K h N z 7 8 6 7: NO WAIT
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ur not getting my point...
TungTranIsHot: If youre punished for doing something "morally right" = matyr
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no
K h N z 7 8 6 7: thats not a martry
K h N z 7 8 6 7: martyr
TungTranIsHot: Yes that is
TungTranIsHot: lol
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no
K h N z 7 8 6 7: a martyr is someone who suffers death on behalf of a group of people
K h N z 7 8 6 7: thats a martyr
TungTranIsHot: a person who is put to death or endures great suffering on behalf of any belief,
TungTranIsHot: Same thign
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no its not
TungTranIsHot: "great suffering"
TungTranIsHot: great suffering on behalf of any belief
TungTranIsHot: which is the same thing as doing waht they think is morally right
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ok -- so whats ur point?
TungTranIsHot: AND
TungTranIsHot: Its to a different degree
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no its not
TungTranIsHot: Youre making it sound like..
TungTranIsHot: you can insult someone
TungTranIsHot: as long as its for a good reason
TungTranIsHot: like
K h N z 7 8 6 7: im not insulting anyone
TungTranIsHot: OK
TungTranIsHot: COMMENTING
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ok
TungTranIsHot: Lets say
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ok..
TungTranIsHot: Hypothetically hispanics are ruining the world
TungTranIsHot: somehow
TungTranIsHot: And you say
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ok?
TungTranIsHot: Hispanics are <strong><em>ing everything u
TungTranIsHot: p
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ok..?
TungTranIsHot: and people agree with it
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ok?
TungTranIsHot: Youre still gonna be racist
TungTranIsHot: lol
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no
TungTranIsHot: Same concept
TungTranIsHot: Yes
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no its not
K h N z 7 8 6 7: generalizing is different from stating a fact
TungTranIsHot: Because the hispanics are going to percieve it as racism
TungTranIsHot: therefore
TungTranIsHot: judge you racist
TungTranIsHot: It gives them
K h N z 7 8 6 7: well
K h N z 7 8 6 7: look
TungTranIsHot: the right to judge you, because you judged them
K h N z 7 8 6 7: thats not racism at all
K h N z 7 8 6 7: because
K h N z 7 8 6 7: "</em></strong><em>ing it all up"
K h N z 7 8 6 7: whats so racist about that
TungTranIsHot: The word "Hispanic" in the front
K h N z 7 8 6 7: you saying.. "I dont like dumb people" thats racist
TungTranIsHot: This leads back to our beginning
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ok
TungTranIsHot: arguement
K h N z 7 8 6 7: Hispanics *</em>*ing it all up
K h N z 7 8 6 7: that wouldnt be racist
TungTranIsHot: Youre saying
TungTranIsHot: That
TungTranIsHot: Just because
TungTranIsHot: you describe people</p>
<p>TungTranIsHot: that isnt racist
TungTranIsHot: But thast not true
K h N z 7 8 6 7: yep
K h N z 7 8 6 7: why not?
TungTranIsHot: Its how the person percieves it
TungTranIsHot: not how YOU percieve it
TungTranIsHot: lol
K h N z 7 8 6 7: thats narrowmindedness..
TungTranIsHot: No
TungTranIsHot: its not
TungTranIsHot: lol
K h N z 7 8 6 7: yes it is..
TungTranIsHot: tahts not the point
TungTranIsHot: you cant control how youre percieved
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ?
TungTranIsHot: you can't control wether you are racist are not
TungTranIsHot: lol
K h N z 7 8 6 7: sure you can
TungTranIsHot: People percieve you by how you act
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no... they percieve you by your beliefs..
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ur belief.. is that you "Dont like dumb people"
TungTranIsHot: You can't just say something that people think is wrong, and think that the people you said it to are going to agree iwith it
TungTranIsHot: But you also
TungTranIsHot: judge a race of peole
TungTranIsHot: people
TungTranIsHot: lol
TungTranIsHot: Yuo generalize them
TungTranIsHot: or judging
TungTranIsHot: lol
TungTranIsHot: thats your belief
TungTranIsHot: lol
TungTranIsHot: Right?
TungTranIsHot: Hispanics are slow
TungTranIsHot: even though you don't mean it that way
TungTranIsHot: Youre going to be percieved as a racist
K h N z 7 8 6 7: judgement and racism are two different things
TungTranIsHot: Rigjt, but you judged a race
TungTranIsHot: lol
K h N z 7 8 6 7: right
TungTranIsHot: you JUDGED a race
K h N z 7 8 6 7: yep
TungTranIsHot: Which is racism
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no its not
K h N z 7 8 6 7: you cant mix judging and racism
TungTranIsHot: Our defintions are differnet
TungTranIsHot: Its opinion
TungTranIsHot: I go more by the book
TungTranIsHot: and what is generally believed in society
K h N z 7 8 6 7: i do too
TungTranIsHot: You don't
K h N z 7 8 6 7: yes
K h N z 7 8 6 7: because people are narrowminded
TungTranIsHot: Maybe they are, but that still doesn't prevent them from judging you racist
K h N z 7 8 6 7: im not racist
TungTranIsHot: To you, youre not
K h N z 7 8 6 7: at what point did i make a racist remark?
TungTranIsHot: I see your point
TungTranIsHot: but people
TungTranIsHot: are going to think youre racist
TungTranIsHot: you get me?
TungTranIsHot: You don't decide
K h N z 7 8 6 7: right
K h N z 7 8 6 7: but to a blind man i might be racist..
K h N z 7 8 6 7: but in reality
K h N z 7 8 6 7: am i?
TungTranIsHot: In youre world
TungTranIsHot: youre not
K h N z 7 8 6 7: you are a racist to a blind man and in reality..
TungTranIsHot: No
TungTranIsHot: because
TungTranIsHot: I just asked
TungTranIsHot: 10 of my friends
TungTranIsHot: obviously
K h N z 7 8 6 7: BECAUSE
TungTranIsHot: to blind men
TungTranIsHot: i am not
K h N z 7 8 6 7: why not?
TungTranIsHot: your world is not reality because your society
TungTranIsHot: doesn't believe in your reality
K h N z 7 8 6 7: r u saying im dillusional?
TungTranIsHot: Im saying that you have a world out of societies beliefs
TungTranIsHot: therefore
TungTranIsHot: not a reality
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no no
K h N z 7 8 6 7: u say you go by books
K h N z 7 8 6 7: but in reality you dont
K h N z 7 8 6 7: i do
TungTranIsHot: Society decides the reality
TungTranIsHot: Not you
TungTranIsHot: I can ask
TungTranIsHot: 10 people
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no
TungTranIsHot: I don't know
K h N z 7 8 6 7: society is different from reality
TungTranIsHot: at all
TungTranIsHot: society decides the reality, because reality will actually happen</p>
<p>TungTranIsHot: My point of view will actually happen
TungTranIsHot: if you say Hispanics are retarded
TungTranIsHot: in public
TungTranIsHot: people will call you racist
TungTranIsHot: THATS REALITY
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no its not
TungTranIsHot: Because its real
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no
K h N z 7 8 6 7: its not...
TungTranIsHot: Reality has the world real in it for some reason
TungTranIsHot: lol
TungTranIsHot: People arent going to be openminded
TungTranIsHot: as you say
TungTranIsHot: BECAUSE
TungTranIsHot: thats not reality
K h N z 7 8 6 7: yes it is
TungTranIsHot: no
TungTranIsHot: Its not
K h N z 7 8 6 7: reality and practicality are two very different things
K h N z 7 8 6 7: so you have to be very careful w/ what you say
TungTranIsHot: Youre getting "technically" and "reality" mixed up
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ur getting practicality and reality mixed up
TungTranIsHot: The way you say what racism is, youre saying that "technically" it isnt racism
TungTranIsHot: But society and reality don't percive it technically
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no.. practically.. i would be considered racist
K h N z 7 8 6 7: because my remark would be practiced as "racist"
K h N z 7 8 6 7: but in REALITY...
K h N z 7 8 6 7: its not
TungTranIsHot: They accept it by whats determined in the society, and society determines reality
K h N z 7 8 6 7: right?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no it doesnt
K h N z 7 8 6 7: brb
TungTranIsHot: Reality = Whats going to happen, not what you want to happen
Auto response from K h N z 7 8 6 7: I am away from my computer right now.</p>
<p>K h N z 7 8 6 7: buddy...
K h N z 7 8 6 7: thats destiny
TungTranIsHot: no
TungTranIsHot: Lol
TungTranIsHot: Ever heard of a reality check?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: tung ur just incoherrent..
TungTranIsHot: Lemme find the definition for yuo
TungTranIsHot: Reality - the state or quality of being real.
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ok
TungTranIsHot: Wahts really going to happen?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: thats different from what you said
TungTranIsHot: Wahts really going to happen
TungTranIsHot: when you say
TungTranIsHot: Hispanic people are retarded
TungTranIsHot: ?
TungTranIsHot: How are people gonna react?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: they will probably be offended
K h N z 7 8 6 7: but wait
TungTranIsHot: Because thats reality lol
K h N z 7 8 6 7: if hispanic people were more open..
K h N z 7 8 6 7: what would REALLY happen
TungTranIsHot: but
TungTranIsHot: thats not reality
TungTranIsHot: lol
K h N z 7 8 6 7: wait
TungTranIsHot: Maybe you are right about people being narrowminded
K h N z 7 8 6 7: so if i went and taught a class of hispanic people.. (which is easily tangible in reality)
K h N z 7 8 6 7: my beliefs
TungTranIsHot: Tsociety locks them in, and makes them narrowminded
K h N z 7 8 6 7: isnt that a very possible reality?
TungTranIsHot: its not real
TungTranIsHot: its not reality
TungTranIsHot: lol
K h N z 7 8 6 7: whats not reality?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: me teaching people to be openminded?
TungTranIsHot: You can teach them what you learn
TungTranIsHot: But
TungTranIsHot: In reality, not everyone
TungTranIsHot: is going to agree with yuo
TungTranIsHot: Thats reality
K h N z 7 8 6 7: right... but i do have the power to change reality
TungTranIsHot: Just like what you happen if you said "Hispanic people are retarded" in front of hispanics
TungTranIsHot: You can, but what youre saying right now
TungTranIsHot: How you eprcieve it
TungTranIsHot: is not reality
K h N z 7 8 6 7: sure it is..
TungTranIsHot: Its not
K h N z 7 8 6 7: i dont just pull beliefs outta my ass
TungTranIsHot: Because people are not gonna think like you
TungTranIsHot: when they hear those words
TungTranIsHot: Because of that general belief
TungTranIsHot: in society
TungTranIsHot: The reality is that theyre going to be offended
TungTranIsHot: In reality, theyre not going to be open minded like you
TungTranIsHot: All im saying
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ok?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: so
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: that doesnt exempt you from being racist
TungTranIsHot: What you said is not reality.
K h N z 7 8 6 7: applying ur logic to urself
K h N z 7 8 6 7: makes you even more racist
TungTranIsHot: Neither does it you
TungTranIsHot: but in society
TungTranIsHot: obviously
TungTranIsHot: you and francis are the only ones that believ eim racist
TungTranIsHot: unless other people think dumb people are a race
K h N z 7 8 6 7: are you racist?
TungTranIsHot: In your views
TungTranIsHot: I am
TungTranIsHot: In mine
TungTranIsHot: Im not
K h N z 7 8 6 7: but you are
TungTranIsHot: Not to me
K h N z 7 8 6 7: if i went around explaining to people
K h N z 7 8 6 7: how you are racist
TungTranIsHot: To me you are racist
K h N z 7 8 6 7: would that not make you racist?
TungTranIsHot: Only if they agree
TungTranIsHot: But looking at it now
TungTranIsHot: Even if I said
TungTranIsHot: taht you said "Hispanics are retarded"
TungTranIsHot: They wouldnt even need me to explain
TungTranIsHot: That you are racist
TungTranIsHot: Because they see Hispanics as a race
TungTranIsHot: And dumb people are anot
TungTranIsHot: not*
K h N z 7 8 6 7: yes they are
K h N z 7 8 6 7: Dumb people are indeed a race
TungTranIsHot: Thats how you view it
K h N z 7 8 6 7: wait
K h N z 7 8 6 7: wait
K h N z 7 8 6 7: stop there
K h N z 7 8 6 7: Tung..
K h N z 7 8 6 7: if you walked into a a Remedial class..
K h N z 7 8 6 7: and said..
TungTranIsHot: You just proved my point
K h N z 7 8 6 7: "I dont like dumb people"
K h N z 7 8 6 7: what would the reaction be?
TungTranIsHot: They would probably call me an *******, but not a racist
TungTranIsHot: Because to them
TungTranIsHot: "Dumb people" is not a race
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ofcourse..
TungTranIsHot: They think race is color and skin
K h N z 7 8 6 7: but if i told them..
K h N z 7 8 6 7: that yes.. dumb people are a race..
K h N z 7 8 6 7: they would THEN call you racist..
TungTranIsHot: Thats the point, youd have to explain, and even after that
TungTranIsHot: They still might not a gree
TungTranIsHot: agree
TungTranIsHot: Because thats not what society believes
TungTranIsHot: But
TungTranIsHot: If you went into a room
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ?
TungTranIsHot: And said
TungTranIsHot: If you went
TungTranIsHot: to a hispanic majority class
TungTranIsHot: and said
TungTranIsHot: "Hispanics are retarded"
TungTranIsHot: How would they react
K h N z 7 8 6 7: well first of all
TungTranIsHot: ?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: people know
K h N z 7 8 6 7: even if i said something like that..
K h N z 7 8 6 7: i dont mean it in a bad way...
TungTranIsHot: Without me even having to EXPLAIN to them my views. How would they react?
TungTranIsHot: Right
TungTranIsHot: But they don't know that
TungTranIsHot: lol
TungTranIsHot: Theyre going to view as racist
TungTranIsHot: So you can't say that you're not racist either
TungTranIsHot: If you go into a room of strangers
TungTranIsHot: Theyre not gonna know you don't mean it in a bad way
TungTranIsHot: Theyre going to percieve it how you said it.
TungTranIsHot: Correct?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: Sure tung...
K h N z 7 8 6 7: If you want to think im a racist..
TungTranIsHot: Thats all I'm saying
K h N z 7 8 6 7: go ahead
K h N z 7 8 6 7: but im not
K h N z 7 8 6 7: and im more accepting than you
TungTranIsHot: Theirs your point of view
TungTranIsHot: But youre still going to be called racist either way
TungTranIsHot: lol
K h N z 7 8 6 7: well let me ask you this
TungTranIsHot: Im not calling you racist, no more than you are me
K h N z 7 8 6 7: if a notorious murderer showed up at ur front door
K h N z 7 8 6 7: and asked for a place to say
K h N z 7 8 6 7: what would you say?
TungTranIsHot: no
TungTranIsHot: Neither would you
TungTranIsHot: lol
K h N z 7 8 6 7: umm
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no
K h N z 7 8 6 7: tung
K h N z 7 8 6 7: I would let him/her in
TungTranIsHot: youre going to let a serial killer
TungTranIsHot: whos raped
TungTranIsHot: 100s of girls
K h N z 7 8 6 7: sure
K h N z 7 8 6 7: because
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ur so narrowminded
K h N z 7 8 6 7: because
TungTranIsHot: Maybe thats you.
TungTranIsHot: Okay
TungTranIsHot: LoL
TungTranIsHot: Dude
K h N z 7 8 6 7: put urself in that person's place
TungTranIsHot: Thats not even the point
TungTranIsHot: Im not even talking about that
TungTranIsHot: Im saying
K h N z 7 8 6 7: tung..
TungTranIsHot: Youre going to be percieved as a racist
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ok
TungTranIsHot: And you can't change that
K h N z 7 8 6 7: like i said
K h N z 7 8 6 7: if oyu think im a racist
K h N z 7 8 6 7: go ahead
K h N z 7 8 6 7: but im more accepting than you
TungTranIsHot: And I think youre racist as well
TungTranIsHot: Im not going to try to change you
TungTranIsHot: because I can't
TungTranIsHot: If you want to let a serial killer live in your house
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ok
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ill TTYL
TungTranIsHot: then thats your choice
TungTranIsHot: LoL
K h N z 7 8 6 7: well
K h N z 7 8 6 7: thats where we part ways
K h N z 7 8 6 7: lets think practically here then..
TungTranIsHot: Just because I don't accept serial killers
TungTranIsHot: doesnt make me a bad person
K h N z 7 8 6 7: what if a theif showed up at your house?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: and asked for a place to stay?
TungTranIsHot: Thats differnet, were talking about race
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ok...
TungTranIsHot: not history
K h N z 7 8 6 7: just because they are criminals
TungTranIsHot: If an iraqi
TungTranIsHot: showed at my house
TungTranIsHot: homeless
K h N z 7 8 6 7: they shouldnt be shunned from society
TungTranIsHot: I wouldnt think they were a racist
TungTranIsHot: Neither should iraqis
TungTranIsHot: But they are
K h N z 7 8 6 7: tung
K h N z 7 8 6 7: that doesnt even make any sense
TungTranIsHot: They did somethign that was wrong
TungTranIsHot: "wrong"
K h N z 7 8 6 7: so?
TungTranIsHot: They murdered people, steal, etc</p>
<p>K h N z 7 8 6 7: ok?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: where's ur point?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: they're still human arent they?
TungTranIsHot: Thats different from accepted
TungTranIsHot: accepting
TungTranIsHot: Accepting on a racial level
TungTranIsHot: is differnet
K h N z 7 8 6 7: no
TungTranIsHot: from accepting on a historial level
K h N z 7 8 6 7: im generally accepting
TungTranIsHot: You say that. But when it comes down to it
K h N z 7 8 6 7: regardless of color, mental capacity, or history..
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ok..
K h N z 7 8 6 7: tung
TungTranIsHot: Im not talking about that
K h N z 7 8 6 7: last year
K h N z 7 8 6 7: this guy..
TungTranIsHot: lol
K h N z 7 8 6 7: robbed a burger king
TungTranIsHot: im talking racially
TungTranIsHot: not historically
K h N z 7 8 6 7: and he needed 250 dollars
K h N z 7 8 6 7: i gave it to him
TungTranIsHot: youre changing the arguement
K h N z 7 8 6 7: its the same thing
TungTranIsHot: No
TungTranIsHot: becaue arace and history are differnt
TungTranIsHot: Im not talking about gnerally
TungTranIsHot: Generally
K h N z 7 8 6 7: TUNG
K h N z 7 8 6 7: I JUST SAID
K h N z 7 8 6 7: IM MORE ACCEPTING THAN YOU
TungTranIsHot: You argue to me about racial issues, but you change it to general issues
TungTranIsHot: Well Im not talking about generally
K h N z 7 8 6 7: OMG
TungTranIsHot: Im talking about race
K h N z 7 8 6 7: tung
K h N z 7 8 6 7: scroll up
K h N z 7 8 6 7: i said
K h N z 7 8 6 7: if you want to call me a racist
K h N z 7 8 6 7: go ahead
TungTranIsHot: I don't care. The issue was about race
K h N z 7 8 6 7: but im more accepting that you
TungTranIsHot: Maybe you are generally
TungTranIsHot: but raciall
TungTranIsHot: racially
TungTranIsHot: I am accepting as well
K h N z 7 8 6 7: generally?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: obviously not
TungTranIsHot: First of all
TungTranIsHot: our definitions of race are differnt
K h N z 7 8 6 7: brb
TungTranIsHot: I dont care about skin color
TungTranIsHot: or ethnic background,
TungTranIsHot: theyre welcome if they need it
TungTranIsHot: And I wouldn't care if theyre lazy or dumb
TungTranIsHot: I would elt them in
TungTranIsHot: as long as they werent serial;
TungTranIsHot: killers
TungTranIsHot: or anything
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ok
TungTranIsHot: And that
K h N z 7 8 6 7: tung criminals are humans too
TungTranIsHot: satisfies
TungTranIsHot: your definition of racism
TungTranIsHot: okay?
TungTranIsHot: Then I agree
TungTranIsHot: You are "generally" more accepting
TungTranIsHot: But who can blame me?
K h N z 7 8 6 7: me
TungTranIsHot: Would you let a serial killer whos on the run, be near your kids
TungTranIsHot: ?
TungTranIsHot: a rapist
TungTranIsHot: whos raped
TungTranIsHot: 100s of little boys and girls
TungTranIsHot: near your children?
TungTranIsHot: Could you blame me?
TungTranIsHot: No.
TungTranIsHot: Zia
K h N z 7 8 6 7: yes
K h N z 7 8 6 7: i would
TungTranIsHot: Okay
TungTranIsHot: Thats why
TungTranIsHot: youre narrow minded
K h N z 7 8 6 7: I AM!??!
K h N z 7 8 6 7: how am i narrowminded?
TungTranIsHot: You don't see why peopel
TungTranIsHot: do things
TungTranIsHot: And just because
TungTranIsHot: you think somethingsright
K h N z 7 8 6 7: you're just acting selfish..
TungTranIsHot: Yo dont care what other people think
TungTranIsHot: Lol
TungTranIsHot: Keep nisulting me
TungTranIsHot: I don't care
TungTranIsHot: You refuse to see other peoples points of view
K h N z 7 8 6 7: i see ur point of view
K h N z 7 8 6 7: but its selfish
TungTranIsHot: You blame people for human nature
TungTranIsHot: We cant chagne that zia
TungTranIsHot: We cant change human nature
TungTranIsHot: Thats how we were created
TungTranIsHot: Maybe we all are selfish then
K h N z 7 8 6 7: we can change ourself
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ourselves..
K h N z 7 8 6 7: we cant change others..
TungTranIsHot: We can't get rid of our fears
K h N z 7 8 6 7: soo.. tung look at urself first..
TungTranIsHot: Society wont allow it
K h N z 7 8 6 7: tung ur obviously too scared to move against the gradient..
TungTranIsHot: Lets keep this topic closed. I gtg. The point is. I think youre racist. And you think Im racist.
K h N z 7 8 6 7: ok...</p>
<p>I concur with the person wayyyyyy up there. </p>
<p>Tooooooo long to read. Life's short.</p>
<p>This should count as spam</p>
<p>Too long to read, but from what I did...what a dumb ass thing to get in an argument about. So what if they said Hispanics are retarded? Get a life.</p>
<p>Condensed version :</p>
<p>The person Im arguing thinks that because I said "I Don't like dumb people", that means that I am racist. Because I am saying it in a deragatory way.</p>
<p>While I said that because he said "Hispanics are retarded", that he was racist.
And said that, racism is not determined by the person who said the comment, but by the people who recieved and percieves the comment.</p>
<p>But he said that people only take it as an insult because theyre narrowminded.</p>
<p>And that in a reality, people would be more openminded.</p>
<p>But I argued that reality is what really happens, not what you want to happen. </p>
<p>But he said, thats destiny not reality.</p>
<p>In the end, neither of us could come to a comprimised and now were both calling eachother racism</p>
<p>You should have just posted that at the beginning.</p>
<p>so do you actually know the person you're arguing w/ or is it an internet friend?</p>
<p>tl;dr .</p>
<p>A person I know in real life</p>
<p>I made it through about 5 lines before realizing it was really long and confusing.
anyway, it seems sort of pointless...</p>