Article: Financial burden falls on students with divorced or remarried parents

<p>“I don’t see how this is possible. Vanderbilt uses the CSS Profile, which looks at the income of both parents, unlike FAFSA, which looks only at the custodial parent. Something’s not right:” </p>

<p>No they don’t and no the CSS only looks at the parent’s financials where the kid spends most of their time. </p>

<p>His mother’s income (which is close to $500K a yr.) wasn’t counted at all.</p>

<p>Yes. They do. Sometimes. From their FAQ <a href=“http://www.vanderbilt.edu/financialaid/undergraduate/faq.php[/url]”>http://www.vanderbilt.edu/financialaid/undergraduate/faq.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Here ya go. <a href=“https://ncprofile.collegeboard.com/ncpWeb/pageflows/Main/NcpMainController.jpf[/url]”>https://ncprofile.collegeboard.com/ncpWeb/pageflows/Main/NcpMainController.jpf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Yes. They do. Here ya go.</p>

<p>Well, they obviously don’t require the non custodial to file that at Vanderbilt because I know for a fact only my sister’s husband’s financial s were counted. Believe me I was shocked when she told me what he got. Vandy even raised it from $37K to $38K after his freshman year! And it is not merit money. </p>

<p>My husband makes in the low $100’s, we drive used cars, live in a small 3 bedroom 1 1/2 bath ranch and pay private school tutition along with ridiculously high prop.taxes on our little house. Meanwhile, they live in Scarsdale, live in multi-million $ homes, drive brand ew BMS’s and Lexus, jet off on vacations at the drop of a hat, eat out and shop in the city all the time, etc., etc., etc., and my husband and I will pay a lot more to send our kid to college. </p>

<p>What other school’s require I don’t know but the mom’s income and financial statement was not required.</p>

<p>Just reading it from their website. I’m sure you could drop a dime on them, if that’s what you need to do. ;)</p>

<p>I posted what the website says in an edit (with a link).</p>

<p>"Obligation to Help Pay for College</p>

<p>Is the non-custodial parent required to help pay for college?</p>

<p>The Federal government does not consider the income and assets of the non-custodial parent in determining a student’s financial need. However, it does consider child support received by the custodial parent.</p>

<p>Many private colleges do consider the non-custodial parent as a potential source of support, and require a supplemental financial aid form from the non-custodial parent. This affects the awarding of the school’s own aid, but not Federal and state aid. "</p>

<p>Obligation to Help Pay for College</p>

<p>Is the non-custodial parent required to help pay for college?</p>

<p>The Federal government does not consider the income and assets of the non-custodial parent in determining a student’s financial need. However, it does consider child support received by the custodial parent.</p>

<p>Many private colleges do consider the non-custodial parent as a potential source of support, and require a supplemental financial aid form from the non-custodial parent. This affects the awarding of the school’s own aid, but not Federal and state aid. </p>

<p>Many private colleges isn’t all.</p>

<p>“Vanderbilt does not automatically require or send a non-custodial application. There may be times when we will request information and documentation from your non-custodial parent. We will send the appropriate forms if this is deemed necessary.”</p>

<p>From Vandy’s website.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.vanderbilt.edu/financialaid/undergraduate/faq.php[/url]”>http://www.vanderbilt.edu/financialaid/undergraduate/faq.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Yep. That’s what I posted.</p>

<p>Gimmee their names. I’ll drop the dime on them. That way you’ll have “plausible deniability”. lol.</p>

<p>"Just reading it from their website. I’m sure you could drop a dime on them, if that’s what you need to do.</p>

<p>I posted what the website says in an edit (with a link)."</p>

<p>Didn’t see you had added it to your post. </p>

<p>Thanks for not making me think I was going crasy and making up stuff. ;)</p>

<p>Nope. But I was surprised Vandy didn’t request it from all.</p>

<p>Well they didn’t as there is no way he would have gotten a penny.</p>

<p>In fact, with what I just read on their website, Vandy moves up several slots on the FA ladder for kids of divorced parents. :wink: I learn something new every time I come on here.</p>

<p>I have not a single doubt in my mind that for many colleges if they want a student particularly badly they will make it affordable. Perhaps the quoted paragraphs for Vandy is Vandy’s “way” of making sure they get the students they want. Probably more transparent than many of the privates with deep pockets and not very “egalitarian” but I would hazard a guess that privates can and do discount information and situations as they prepare financial aid packages. Perhaps Emilybee’s nephew for some reason was particularly attractive to Vandy.</p>

<p>Monof three - he was. He is Jewish and they actively recruit Jewish kids. The year he got accepted 15 kids from Scarsdale HS got accepted.</p>

<p>^^^</p>

<p>???</p>

<p>Does Vandy ask for a student’s religion on the college app? If not, how would Vandy know if a child is Jewish or not?</p>

<p>I assume they do. Most of colleges my son applied to asks on the app about religion, race, etc. It is optional though so you can choose not have to answer.</p>

<p>According to their common data set religion is not considered in admission.</p>

<p>Jewish College Students Are “Hot Tickets” In Admissions Offices
In a stunning irony, the very colleges that just decades ago had Jewish quotas are now actively seeking Jewish students.</p>

<p>In 2002, Vanderbilt University in Nashville, Tenn. made national news when the Wall Street Journal reported that recruiting more Jewish students was part of “its elite strategy to lift it to Ivy League status.”</p>

<p>Vanderbilt’s efforts — constructing a new Hillel building, increasing the number of Jewish studies courses and targeting high schools with large Jewish student bodies — paid off, as the percentage of Jewish students quadrupled in just four years, increasing from 3 percent to 12 percent.</p>

<p>Vanderbilt’s push is only the most public one of similar efforts in colleges across the country, including several in our area that have constructed Hillel buildings and added kosher dining in recent years.</p>

<p>Jewish students have become “hot ticket” items for several reasons. At a time when the college-aged population is declining, Jews are a safe bet, as almost 90 percent attend college. They are smart, racking up high SAT scores. They have a high graduation rate and tend to do well academically.</p>

<p>However, though colleges and universities usually couch their recruiting strategy in terms of creating a more diverse campus, some feel it is actually driven by the perception that Jewish parents will be more likely to afford private school tuition and thus need less financial aid and, down the road, they may be more likely to make sizable donations.</p>

<p>In a related trend, as the college admissions process has become increasingly competitive, Jewish students who might in the past have been accepted by Ivy League universities, which have large Jewish student bodies, are now turning to second-tier schools like Vanderbilt and to liberal arts colleges — and these schools want to grab them.</p>

<p>Similarly, as admission criteria for the likes of the University of Maryland, College Park have become more rigorous and it has become a “destination” school for out-of-state students, more local students who might have gone there in the past are seeking alternative schools, many of which are strengthening their Jewish resources to attract them.</p>

<p>[Baltimore</a> Jewish Times - National News | Life On Campus](<a href=“http://www.jewishtimes.com/index.php/jewishtimes/news/jt/national_news/life_on_campus/]Baltimore”>http://www.jewishtimes.com/index.php/jewishtimes/news/jt/national_news/life_on_campus/)</p>

<p>A Little History of Jewish Enrollment in Higher Learning</p>

<p>“In Effort to Lift Their Rankings, Colleges Recruit Jewish Students.” That was the front page headline from the April 29, 2002, Wall Street Journal. The article tells a marvelous tale of tantalizing ironies. “‘Yes, we’re targeting Jewish students,’ Chancellor Gordon Gee told a March 17 board meeting of the Vanderbilt affiliate of Hillel, the nonprofit national Jewish campus organization. ‘There’s nothing wrong with that. That’s not affirmative action. That’s smart thinking.’” Later in the story, Gee, a Mormon who left Brown University to head Vanderbilt, indicated the effort was part of his “elite strategy” to move Vanderbilt into Ivy League status. “'Jewish students,” he said, “by culture and by ability and by the very nature of their liveliness, make a university a much more habitable place in terms of intellectual life.”</p>

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<p>Ahhh, ethnic profiling at it’s finest…or is enrollment management the PC term now?</p>

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<p>LOL. Just send em a link, curmudgeon. How many male Jewish sophomores from Scarsdale with a $38K grant could there be at one time?!</p>