<p>Yeah, but the rise in the admit rate was really quite small…around 1 percent, I think. CC’s also went up a bit, i believe, while SEAS went down a tiny bit.</p>
<p>“Overall, CC and SEAS collectively admitted its most selective undergraduate class yet.”</p>
<p>O, when will people just give it a rest. Barnard had a little over 4,000 applicants. Columbia had 25,000. I think it’s clear which school is more sought after and more selective…really not trying to be rude, but let’s be truthful.</p>
<p>On another note, not even 400 people applied to Barnard Early Decision, which just shows how it is not very many people’s first choice. The admit rate last year was 47.7% ED for Barnard. </p>
<p>Columbia had 3,000 ED applicants, which is comparable to the amount of RD applicants for Barnard (which hovers around 4100).</p>
<p>And Churchmusicmom – it might be the most selective, but it ranks #27 on the USNews list of Liberal Arts Colleges. Wellesley, a fellow female-only college, ranks #4.</p>
<p>Columbia13, why are you so intent on ripping Barnard apart? It exists, get over it and enjoy Columbia, there is no need for you to attempt to rip down our school in support of your own.</p>
<p>As a future Columbian I’m extremely proud of Columbia’s affiliation with Barnard, and I’m sure I’ll have great friends at Barnard…probably will take classes there.</p>
<p>My point is just to be honest with yourself – there’s Columbia College and Barnard College in Columbia University. So buy Barnard sweatshirts and have some school pride for crying out loud…it’s an excellent school, no need to mention Columbia in the same breath every time you mention it.</p>
<p>Most Barnard students don’t do that, Columbia13. Almost every single one that I’ve met is extremely proud of the school and applied there for Barnard, not for Columbia. I personally never even mention Columbia unless someone else brings it up, I applied ED to Barnard because I wanted to go to Barnard, not to Columbia.</p>
<p>Of course there are those who go to Barnard as a back door into Columbia and, from what I’ve heard, both Columbia students AND Barnard students tend to have an issue with that (although I’ve also heard that the Barnard-Columbia relationship is a non-issue on campus, it’s just an issue with incoming freshmen).</p>
<p>I guess my point is just that you don’t need to be so condescending about your issues with those select few, most Barnard women are extremely proud of their school.</p>
<p>I have been a member here since my daughter first applied to Barnard almost 5 years ago. She is getting ready to graduate this spring and, if you read any of my previous posts on this forum, you would see that I am FAR from being a mom who wishes my kid went to Columbia College! </p>
<p>I posted the link to the Spec article in the OP because I have been doing that every year since I was a member here. Just to point out to the incoming class members here on CC how this year “shaped up”. It’s interesting that from your perspective you decided that I am somehow something I am certainly NOT. Tells a lot about your POV, I think.</p>
<p>And the numbers you brought up regarding number of applicants to Columbia vs Barnard are hardly even interesting and not really relevant, particularly since Barnard is by nature (as a women’s school and a much smaller LAC) going to have way fewer applicants to begin with. I am not personally interested in USNWR rankings but if you are, have at it!</p>
<p>And congrats to the incoming Barnard First-years! you are in for a very exciting and enlightening four years. Enjoy!</p>
<p>I think it’s Columbia13 who needs to give it a rest. The article said that Barnard is the most sought after and competitive women’s college - it said nothing about it being more competitive over CU. But here’s something for people to think about: only half the population can apply to Barnard, because of course it is a women’s college. Therefore, the admit rate has to be naturally higher. Also, it doesn’t offer things that CU does, like the engineering school, etc. It’s a small liberal arts college. I didn’t want to apply to Columbia College because I really didn’t like the core, or the academic advising. I like Barnard. I have immense pride in Barnard. So there you go.</p>
<p>Actually no. Not as many people are going to apply to Barnard because it only admits women, it’s a small liberal arts college without programs such as engineering and there are people who want to go to schools with very specific programs (like engineering). The school also has very consistent class sizes of around 550 students. They want to keep the class sizes consistent, they have to admit around 28-29%. I’m not making excuses for why the admit rate is higher than the Columbia admit rate, it’s just what it is. There is absolutely no point in wasting more time on this subject, so I’m not going to. I suggest you do the same.</p>