Article on Law Job Prospects

<p>provided by WSJ -- bar-raised-for-law-grad-jobs:</a> Personal Finance News from Yahoo! Finance</p>

<p>nothing really new to those who have been aware of what's been going on, but I think it's still an important reality check for prospective law students.</p>

<p>from the article:</p>

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Those considering law school might want to reconsider, said Allan Tanenbaum, chairman of an American Bar Association commission studying the impact of the economic crisis on the profession. Students take on average law-school debt of about $100,000 and, given the job market, many "have no foreseeable way to pay that back," he said.

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<p>NW is considered a T14 school, right? How common is it (not getting an offer) among law graduates from T14 schools? Would students from a T7 school have trouble?</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

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<p>Though NU is, indeed, a T14 school, I somehow doubt the job-hunting strategies of the particular student mentioned in the article. Since when are 50 resumes to big firms considered sufficiently exhaustive after getting no-offered? </p>

<p>There are students at most top law schools, even at Harvard and Stanford (though i do not know about Yale), who do not have jobs (or, correspondingly, don’t have anything lined up for 2L summer). The statistics have actually been quite generous, however. I have on good word that roughly 70% of our class (Columbia/NYU) received a job offer from the summer through the on-campus interview program. Considering the economy, that isn’t bad at all. However, unless one has non-big-law plans coming into law school (and is firm in their convictions), it would suck terribly if they ended up in that 30% that didn’t get an offer.</p>

<p>And there’s no assurance that things will necessarily pick up by the time you come around to interview. There’s a great deal of uncertainty regarding the economy; though things are picking up (and, firm-wise, work is definitely picking up), the Eurozone debt crisis has created significant uncertainty with respect to how things will be impacted here; further, when our local municipalities and cities start having debt crises of their own, we could be in for great deal of hurt. On top of that, there’s significant regulatory uncertainty with respect to curbing speculative derivative use and pursuing civil (or criminal cases) against those who had shady derivatives practices. In essence, if the actions against Goldman prove successful, there is a veritable mountain of shareholder suits that could be launched against them (and some have already started). Moreover, there are 18 other banks the SEC could put in their crosshairs next (and they all, from what I know, engaged in similarly shady derivatives practices); correspondingly, there’s a veritable Mt. Everest of shareholder claims that could be launched by shareholders of those banks.</p>

<p>So yes, significant uncertainty, though that last stuff about banks and regulations and lawsuits might provide a lot of bread and butter to NYC and Chicago attorneys, and may well sustain the notion of a “bulge bracket” law firm for at least a few more years (though, frankly, I think their days are numbered… at least their days of being aggressively expansionary–I think there’s a definite power-shift toward top litigation practices (Quinn, Kirkland, W&C, Boies, Paul Weiss), though I’m sure some of the professionals here could shed more credible light on my view (and tell me whether I’m completely wrong)).</p>

<p>I found the following link regarding ILRG raw data. </p>

<p>[2009</a> Raw Data Law School Rankings : Employed at Graduation (Descending)](<a href=“2020 Law School Rankings - Median LSAT Score (High to Low)”>2020 Law School Rankings - Employed at Graduation (High to Low))</p>

<p>The employment rates were very good. Some of the data were from 2008 and earlier though. It would be of interest to check the 2010 raw data when they become available. Hopefully, the current low placement rates of law students only lasts 1-2 years.</p>

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<p>It isn’t bad, though it’s down quite a bit from the 85+% of three years ago. And as the article points out, the offer rate for summers has dropped dramatically; if that trend continues, a lot of those people may not end up with full-time offers. And 3L hiring has been virtually non-existent.</p>

<p>1) I’m thinking (more hoping, probably) that the smaller class sizes this summer will ensure a higher offer rate, so hopefully things shouldn’t be as bad as last summer. Offer rates were bad last summer because the economic crisis hit right during 2L recruiting the fall before; offers had already been extended, and many firms were ridiculously oversubscribed (some even rescinded offers–see Akin Gump). </p>

<p>2) Agreed that being down from 85% is pretty bad, but I was expecting much worse. I was thinking that maybe only 50% of the class procured an offer from OCI, so this certainly bodes well. In terms of total employment, I believe close to the entire class as some job or another for the summer, so that’s good. I know it isn’t 100%-just spoke to another 2L a few weeks ago who still had nothing lined up.</p>