<p>Hi I'm a high school senior who will enter U of M as a freshman next year. Looking through former threads, I'm interested in Phi Psi, SAE, DKE, basically ones that party with the hottest sororities. From your experiences, is it possible to get a bid as an Asian? </p>
<p>PS. I'm not interested in Asian frats as I already know enough Asian ppl.</p>
<p>It’s not “hard” to get a bid to any of the fraternities if you just mesh with the people in them. You’ll generally know if you’re going to get a bid from a fraternity because the feeling is typically mutual; I haven’t met anybody who really wanted to get a bid from a certain social fraternity but wasn’t offered one. Once again, this isn’t because membership isn’t a big deal, but because you can typically tell when you’re really getting along with somebody and when you aren’t. And if you aren’t meshing with the guys in the fraternity you really shouldn’t want a bid and they shouldn’t want to offer you one. </p>
<p>You might come off as a social climber though (because you are) and that could be a turnoff to some people.</p>
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<p>This definitely happens.</p>
<p>How selective are the top frats? i.e. Phi Psi, DKE, SAE, FIJI, etc?</p>
<p>DKE is not a top frat.</p>
<p>I genuinely don’t think you’ll find a statistic on that, any frat will tell you XXX number of people rushed but we only offered bids to a handful of them. But that XXX number of people includes anybody who put their name down on a spreadsheet or showed up to any rush events. </p>
<p>Most fraternities hold optional rush events and the people who end up going to all of those and having a good time with the brothers are usually the people offered bids. It’s really a lot more of a two-way selectivity than I think you have it envisioned in your head. The professional and cultural fraternities tend to be the ones that are more discriminating, with people submitting applications and rushing multiple times before they get a bid. </p>
<p>And I haven’t heard as much of DKE as I have the other three. But it’s really not as important as you think it is. The fraternities are a lot less objectively ranked than the sororities, if you could say that at all.</p>
<p>Alright…</p>
<p>OP: The fact that you have “looked through former threads” to determine which houses you are interested in is ridiculous. I suppose you wouldn’t know any better coming out of high school and I guess you haven’t come across any of my other posts about how to figure out what house you should join. Basically, don’t join a house solely because of its reputation. If you do that you could wind up somewhere you don’t like, whether it be due to the hazing (Phi Psi hazing is pretty intense… SAE’s pledge period is a full year and their hazing is probably one of the worst on campus) or due to the brothers (or both). Sure, check out those houses, but try to hit up a bunch more during welcome week/the first few weekends of school before rush and hang out/party/speak with the brothers in those houses to get a sense for what they’re about/whether you could envision yourself there. Joining a house should not come down to with whom it parties. All else equal, I obviously encourage you to go with a house with a better rep, but make sure you will actually like the guys with whom you’ll become brothers and that you believe you’ll have a good experience. Partying is a big part of being in a house, but it’s not the only (or even largest) part. </p>
<p>Furthermore, a house will help bring girls to you but you’re the one who has to have (some level of) game. House does not necessarily equal automatic tail.</p>