Asian girls have fantastic results in the early round; Asian boys, not so much

Just an observation. After the early round of admission results came out, several Asian girls in our neighborhood have been admitted to Stanford, Princeton, MIT, UPenn, Northwestern, Amherst, Swarthmore, etc. Asian boys, nil, zilch, nada, in that prestigious level. I’m not sure whether the girls have significant better stats and/or EC and/or essay than the boys.

Anyway, it’s not statistically significant since the sample size is small. If you have more data supporting or opposing the thesis, please post.

I sense a storm brewing…
Interested to see whats gonna pop-up : P

Exactly. What you have is a limited number of anecdotes.

You can’t generalize from that or craft a thesis. I see a guy walking a black dog down my street now as I write this; I can’t now theorize that all people in the USA own black dogs.

“Several girls in (my) neighborhood” is absolutely not an adequate sample size.

Add this in: " I’m not sure whether the girls have significant better stats and/or EC and/or essay than the boys." and we have absolutely nothing at all.

The plural of anecdote is not data.

For some reason, people tend to believe anecdotes more than data, whether the anecdote is representative or an outlier. Notice that many news articles about data will include an anecdotal example as well.

For STEM majors, the DATA does show girls have higher probability of acceptance than boys, regardless of ethnicity.

@skieurope I’m absolutely going to steal that quote when we start our chapter on Statistics next week! Thanks!!!

Hahaha, I know exactly how you guys will respond, so covered all the based beforehand. The group thinking and PC culture runs deep.

Is this board a “statistics only” board? I doubt anyone will treat posts on this board as scientific research. Anecdotes should be welcomed as well, especially anecdotes that may point to a statistical anomaly.

Another thing I emphasized is “early round,” since we don’t know the RD round result yet. The good thing is, when all the results are in, our HS post where everyone got in. By that time I’ll have actual statistics of the entire graduating class. Still not statistically significant nationwide, but it will be statistically significant in the local area.

Just an anecdote from my experience this year: most of the people I know who have been admitted to HYPS schools this year have been asian girls

For our school it’s been pretty balanced.

I do wish they would add a gender by race breakdown to the common dataset.

“Hahaha, I know exactly how you guys will respond, so covered all the based beforehand. The group thinking and PC culture runs deep.”

So, why the thread then?

“The good thing is, when all the results are in, our HS post where everyone got in. By that time I’ll have actual statistics of the entire graduating class. Still not statistically significant nationwide, but it will be statistically significant in the local area.”

Still won’t prove much because you don’t know the details of each student, do you? Exact GPA, test scores, recommendation content and quality of essays?

It is a wel-known “fact/plural of anecdotes” among Chinese American community that Chinese stem girls have a much better chance getting into MIT than similarly statsed boys. Stanford class of 2017 also “seemed” to have more Chinese/Chinese American girls than C/CA boys.

For STEM majors, the data are clear-cut. Just take a look at MIT/Caltech/Harvey Mudd, where nearly all applicants are STEM majors. For all three schools, the male/female applicant ratios are about 3:1. However, the male/female acceptance ratios are almost exactly 1. So a female applicant is three times more likely to be accepted than a male applicant. But it’s not an Asian thing. It’s across all ethnicities.

Perhaps this phenomenon is more pronounced among Asians and Asian Americans because more of them, including girls, are STEM majors.

@nw2this , totally agree. They could just post the raw data. We can slice and dice the data using pivot tables easily. No need to package the data and spoon feed us.

@1NJParent , very good point.

OK then. Anecdotally, I can tell you that both Asian girls and Asian boys have been admitted in the early round at every Ivy League university, plus MIT, Stanford, and many LACs.

Anecdotally, I have not heard of any Asian boys being admitted ED to Barnard, Wellesley, Bryn Mawr, Smith, Mount Holyoke, or Vassar. However, I have no data to confirm. >:)

Such admission is a theoretical possibility at only two of these colleges (Vassar is coed, and Mount Holyoke admits transgender males according to https://www.mtholyoke.edu/policies/admission-transgender-students#q2 ).