<p>yea I get what you mean haha but come on, you can’t go out NYC clubbing or drinking every night… You’ll be broke within a couple months!</p>
<p>word… goin to nyu is already getting me broke…</p>
<p>well, everyone of my friends that ive aksed have said that you will never get bored in nyc. which is fairly obvious. still… lack of a campus is worrying me…</p>
<p>I feel ya buddy but seeing as you are a Stern admit, I think the internship opportunities and easy access to all the firms in wall street will be worth it.</p>
<p>Hi england2010,</p>
<p>I was just admitted to Stern’s BPE program and I’m still deciding whether I want to go or not because of the huge cost.</p>
<p>What are the pro/cons between normal Stern/ BPE, academically, socially… etc. I really like the idea of studying at different campus every year, but it seems to me that I wouldn’t be able to attend any clubs/extra curricular, and my social circle would be limited to BPE friends (i think it’s 50 people right?). Also it seems to me that the program is more broad, as in it won’t focus as much on finance, marketing…etc. as normal Stern. That’s not a huge conern for me though, because I’m not sure what I want to major in.
Thanks!</p>
<p>Hi england2010, thanks for all of the help you’ve been providing prospective and admitted students so far. I have just a few questions to ask.</p>
<p>What are the tuition and fees for a Stern freshman apart from room and board?
Do you know when an ED admitted student can access their financial aid records/summaries on Albert?
How are commuting students integrated into Stern?
How many classes would you recommend taking in freshman year?
When do you declare your major and can you change your major from the one you listed on the application?</p>
<p>Thanks for the help!</p>
<p>@nathansin - I live a pretty similar lifestyle. Its not too hard if you manage to eat a lot at the dining halls. There isn’t much to spend on otherwise unless you have a weakness for something (say a particular breakfast sandwich from Dunkin or an Espresso from Starbucks or something). It depends on what you mean by pocket money. If its just going to be extra expenses (after buying and excluding all supplies, clothing), then for me it was around $50-100 a month (mainly only spent on food, and sometimes movie tickets). I had almost everything I needed (including a dining plan that covered almost every meal of the week), so that might be really low. If you include everything and If you’re one of the buy-a-lot of clothes/get a lot of fancy makeovers type, then it might be double or triple or maybe even quadruple that amount a month. With books, it might even go into 4 figures in the beginning of the semester (American books are bloody costly - you can try used ones though) I know kids who spend $400 or so a month without supplies, and I personally think that you can easily keep it below that level.</p>
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<li><p>It is pretty common here. Thats one of the biggest advantages of going to Stern over say Cornell or UMich or UCB or some comparable not even in the same league as NYC located place. However, as a whole, they’re limited to sophomores, juniors with the really good ones only going to juniors (maybe an exceptional sophomore or 2 too). I’m only considering the decent ones here. For us internationals, we wouldn’t be able to do a lot of that as well. However, if we use the OPT starting Junior year and let it run for 12 months, it can be used to get a solid academic year internship + a solid summer internship that could potentially lead to a job. You could look at opportunities in your home country before that.</p></li>
<li><p>I plan on majoring in Finance +Accounting, and don’t have any AP/IB credits at all. I did take WTE, but it wasn’t too bad. Its college, so it’ll be tough, but once you’re into it, you’ll be fine. The classes by themselves are only slightly tough. Its the competition that makes it seem more so, but if you work hard when you are required to work, you can do it. You’ll have plenty of time for free things. Refer to my earlier answers. I’m sure I’ve answered that in more detail. But I’m only a year older than you, so I might not know much on that.</p></li>
<li><p>I do go to parties but only during weekends. Over Weekdays, free time is spent catching up on tv shows, or watching other sports, or hanging out with floormates, dinners, watching weird movies etc. I live a normal college kid’s lifestyle. I watch and follow a lot of football (since you’re international you should understand) (over here Americans call it soccer), so that takes a huge chunk of my time. You can do whatever you want or explore the city and its vast resources. Its got something for everybody. You’ll never get bored.</p></li>
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<p>@the other guys - I’ll answer the rest of the questions sometime later (it’ll be soon though - maybe in another 15-16 hours)</p>
<p>Keep the questions coming though if you have any. With the weekend coming up, it shouldn’t be tough to answer them all.</p>
<p>Hi England2010, how large on average are classes at Stern? How is the student-prof interaction? What differences are there between the economics and finance programs, and which one is preferable for a career in investment banking?</p>
<p>Thanks so much for taking the time to help!</p>
<p>Thanks england2010, now I’m feeling more and more confident about the employment/OPT process. Just some other questions:</p>
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<li><p>Do you really spend on $50 - $100 a month? I was also thinking about getting the 225 meals per semester which would cost $4,130 for one year, which would hopefully be enough to never worry about going hungry. However $50-100 seems really low, but considering I only spend money on food and movies etc. would $100 a month be more than sufficient? (if it is that would be great!)</p></li>
<li><p>About how many students in Stern land a job in investment banking, particularly international students? I’m not just talking about bulge brackets but also in the lesser areas, middle markets etc. I know getting a job in investment banking is notoriously difficult but I was just wondering how many international undergrads in Stern make it.</p></li>
<li><p>Since the majority of the students in Stern end up in banking, I was wondering how much a typical Sternie makes in salary, including base, and guaranteed bonus? I’ve read in several forums that living in NYC under $100,000 is very difficult without a roommate, especially with the sky high prices of rent and cost of living. I was wondering what a typical Stern student’s NET income would be in a year (in the field of general banking)</p></li>
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<p>Thanks in advance!</p>
<p>Thanks so much for doing this <3 I hope nobody has asked my questions yet …</p>
<p>I’m debating between UCLA (business-econ major) and NYU Stern. Stern obviously has NYC and amaaazing job/internship opportunities that make me drool XD But I’m concerned about campus life (as there is no campus). It’s hard to bump into people coincidentally and everyone’s just sort of doing their own thing, no close group of friends, is that right?</p>
<p>Also I hear it’s “ridiculously competitive” and people are very stressed out and competing for the same jobs/internships in NYU. Are you really HAPPY there? If you could weigh up your happiness vs. the opportunities and preparations for your future, would you still have chosen NYU?</p>
<p>Is it really important to kinda “set your roots” in Wall Street and stuff like that early on? Or will my chances of working at a prestigious firm there be fine if I graduate from UCLA with biz-econ?</p>
<p>^The notion of “setting your roots” on Wall Street from 18 years of age is ridiculous. It’s not necessary at all… </p>
<p>A degree from any top school will suffice, whether from UCLA, NYU, etc. Having a business degree, even from Stern, isn’t really that much of an edge up. In fact, a good amount of employers prefer liberal arts degrees. Your degree only takes you as far as the interview anyways.</p>
<p>Stern’s a great place to be and gives great opportunities, but the classes are ultra-competitive and are only mildly intellectually difficult. If this type of business education appeals to you, apply to Stern. Otherwise UCLA biz-econ or NYU CAS Econ is the best way to go between these two universities.</p>
<p>*This is all coming from an upperclass NYU student.</p>
<p>hey I just had a question regarding roommates. Would it be more beneficial to room with someone within my own school at NYU if I wanted to become good friends with my roommate? Because I was admitted to CAS, and she to Tisch, I feel like we would have too many differences and interests. But besides the school thing, I think she would be perfect. So what do I do?</p>
<p>I’m seconding the average class size question, thanks so much england2010!
also a few other questions:
- You mentioned that a 740+ on writing can place us out of the CC writing course, however, do you suggest this? Would it be detrimental to not take a writing course our freshman year?
- A bit of a cliche question, but what dorms are the best?
- No internships freshman year, but what about part-time jobs? How is the pay/ease of getting one?</p>
<p>This is kind of a general question but how do you feel about Stern students in the BPE program? How difficult is it to get into this program and how different are the students in it? Does the busines core and BPE students share same classes? </p>
<p>Thank you :)</p>
<p>@Snowbeamer9</p>
<p>I think what you need to know is that it’s about going to a school that gets recruited at by firms, which Stern has a ton of. From what I know, UCLA is not a target at NYC, and while this does not necessarily mean that being at UCLA has no chance, you will have to search out on your own if you were to look for a job at NYC. However for LA, UCLA i assume would excel greatly. </p>
<p>Secondly, although Stern may be ultra-competitive, I daresay that all undergraduate business programs have a high degree of competitiveness. Unless you were to enter a economics program, I highly doubt that other undergraduate business schools will have an “uncompetitive atmosphere”.</p>
<p>@xkaeze</p>
<p>All Stern freshmen are required to take a class called “Writing the Essay”, however this class can be exempted under these SAT writing scores:</p>
<p>700 - 740 : skip WTE and take a more lenient class called Commerce and Culture</p>
<p>750 - 800 : skip writing requirement altogether and use credit to take electives instead.</p>
<p>From what I heard, WTE really ends up hurting your GPA. I’d prefer to skip it and take easier electives</p>
<p>@nathansin: I’m within the 750-800 range, however, would it be advisable to skip it?</p>
<p>@xkaeze </p>
<p>Honestly I am a recent Stern admit as well so I can’t really say much since I have never attended the class. I too have exactly 750 in my writing section of the SAT and am wondering whether to skip it or not. Although I think I’d prefer to skip it (and not risk hurting my GPA) and take an elective instead, I think a person who actually attended the class would have better feedback on this.</p>
<p>Hahaha, alright 
Although with regards to GPA, I’m more afraid that after skipping the writing course I’d be at a disadvantage in the longer run. Maybe I’m just paranoid though xD</p>
<p>hmm Skipping the writing seminar is a tough choice for me too. I have an 800 on SAT writing, but I understand xkaeze’s wariness regarding a disadvantage in the long run.</p>