Ask vicissitudes: Spring Admits (FAQ included)

<p>When do housing offers come out</p>

<p>hey…</p>

<p>how is the espm 50ac class?..im thinking of taking that instead of history 7b (i realized that i have ap credit for this already)…is taking this class worth it?</p>

<p>also…how are these classes: </p>

<p>Ethnic studies
Poly sci
Asian am studies</p>

<p>…im thinking of these as my alternates in case my other choices are full…what classes would you reccommend for a pre-med (intended integrated bio major)…any suggestions are appreciated!!</p>

<p>thank you!!!</p>

<p>espm 50ac is good. It is one of the easiest classes there is</p>

<p>j31> Poli Sci 1, 2, 3, and 5 are the weeder classes for the major. If possible, take PS1 and 2 @ CC (unless you want to try and get used to the cr*p they throw at you in the lower div). </p>

<p>If you decide to take PS1 and 2 here, be prepared for heavy writing, boring lectures, and possibly picky GSIs. Now don’t get me wrong, the subject material is enlightening, just as what Poli Sci classes should be like, but it’s the way the classes are run that are <em>bleh</em>. If you decide to do PS3, which is required for Poli Sci majors, I would suggest you brush up on Stats, because that’s basically what the 2nd half of the class was mainly about. But as for the 1st half of that class, well… no real suggestions but to suck it up. PS 5 is an IR class, and I heard that Prof Gurowitz isn’t too bad. As with IR classes, this class will introduce you to theories and you will be required to know them to write well. </p>

<p>Hope this helps with your choice of Poli Sci courses.</p>

<p>thank you anon5524485 and stressedBear!! </p>

<p>What breadth categories would you recommend to get out of the way first? do you know which ones i shouldnt worry about now, ones that i would eventually fulfill due to my prerequisites (ie physical science would be covered by required chem 1a…thats all i know)…thanks!</p>

<p>j31> Well, if you intend to go a physical science route, the physical science breadth will be fulfilled simultaneously. For me, I had trouble with finding an arts&literature class that sounded fun, and that was cleared not until I finish my junior year. </p>

<p>It really depends on your intended major in L&S that will decide the orders you finish the breadth. But if you decide to go for humanities and social sciences, I would highly recommend taking a logic course to satisfy the philosophy requirement, it would help a little on your writing ability. The thing about breadth requirements is that they can be satisfied outside of Cal, just check assist.org. Taking them @ Cal is mainly for personal enlightenment, chance to meet some new people, and to have some horror stories to share @ parties later on in life. :slight_smile: </p>

<p>If you do take them @ Cal, take upper division courses to satisfy the breadth requirements, as the upper divs are run much better.</p>

<p>thanx stressedBear…</p>

<p>my intended major is integrated bio…(pre-med)…so i should finish the breadths unrelated to the sciences first?</p>

<p>j31> Yeah that’s what I would do, finish up the AC requirement, arts & literature, and the social sciences requirements first because of the intended major. What you can think about it is do them in end of Soph, Jr. or Sr. year, that way you wouldn’t be bogged down by your lower div core courses (bio, chem, etc) and be too stressed out. If you decide to take them together with your core classes in the first couple of years, consider taking them P/NP, that way it won’t affect your GPA that much.</p>

<p>AC requirements have to be done @ Cal, but the other breadth can be take elsewhere.</p>

<p>thanx!</p>

<p>heres my proposed schedule…how does it look?</p>

<p>Anthropolgy 1 (Social and Behavioral Sciences)
Espm 50 ac (Should I take this as a historical studies course or philosophy and values?)
Math 16a
English ra1 (for now…)</p>

<p>and my alternates are (dont know wat order i should put them in…any suggestions?)</p>

<p>Ethnic studies
Asian am studies
Classics 10
need one more…help?</p>

<p>critique/advise please? thanx!!</p>

<p>As an intended IB major, you will satisfy the physical and biological sciences breadths with your first chem and bio classes respectively. That leaves five breadths and eight semesters in which to do them. In addition there is the AC, the R&C, language and history requirements. Many are able to waive history and language, for example, based on high school courses taken. </p>

<p>As an IBM major, you have a set of required classes - Math 16A, Chem 1A, Chem 3A, Chem 3B, Bio 1A, Bio 1B, Physics 8A and Physics 8B. You don’t need to have finished all eight by the time you declare, typically at the end of second year, but you need to be through the bulk of them. Thus, you might consider Chem 1A along with the math in your first semester. </p>

<p>ESPM50AC is about as hotly desired a class as you will find. Incredibly unlikely you will be able to register for it as an entering freshman. It is already full and has a waitlist. The reason it is so popular is the triple crown - easy A, meets a breadth, and simultaneously satisfies the AC requirement. </p>

<p>The R&C requirements are generally a priority as the improvements in your reading and writing skills will pay off in future classes. </p>

<p>Some courses are eligible to satisfy more than one type of breadth, but you don’t get credit for both. On the other hand, you don’t have to choose when you take the class. At the end when setting up to graduate, they will check off whichever breadth type you need. If you take one that fits two categories, then later you will have the flexibility to sign up for a course in either category, which retroactively turns the first, dual category, course into complementary category to the course you just finished.</p>

<p>j31> Espm 50 is an AC class, so it satisfies the AC requirement. Your first schedule seems a little tilted on reading and writing, and you have to be extra careful in not missing a class for them. The trick to soial and humanities class here is to not fall behind in lectures, so just make sure you remind yourself constantly about it.</p>

<p>I don’t have much experience with ethnic studies, but I believe the study method for social sciences should also apply for the humanities too.</p>

<p>LH - thanks for the additional precision. </p>

<p>End of second year (spring)- after finals - courses are complete. As a practical matter, as you said, you can’t really declare until the department is back at the beginning of Fall. Point taken.</p>

<p>Bulk of classes was my way of describing the newly fuzzy requirement. In the past, the department was were on expecting six prereqs completed but with the nightmare issues registering for Chem 3AL and other courses in the current tight funding environment that has softened. You say “the prefer six”, I say “bulk of”, but we mean the same thing as it is not a hard, fixed number any more.</p>

<p>I imagine you agree with the basic advice to the poster, that they take the requisites on two per semester for the most part in order to be well situated for declaring the major.</p>

<p>is it not good to focus on social and humanities and get them out of the way early (based on my major, integrated bio)? </p>

<p>what class would you recommend i take?</p>

<p>ok…so i decided on the final list of possible classes…but i need help on deciding which i should actually take…please rank these classes so i would get some idea as to which are the better classes and which i should mark as my choices and numbered alternates on the selection form… (most likely ill be taking two breadths…but could be three depending on my ap/ib tests)</p>

<p>Anthropology 1
Classics 10A
Environmental Science 50 AC
Gender and Women’s Studies 50 AC
Sociology 3AC </p>

<p>oh…and would you recommend taking english or rhetoric?</p>

<p>THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! Very much appreciated!!!</p>

<p>is this schedule ok/doable for intended integrated bio major?</p>

<p>Math 16a
Sociology AC
Classics 10a
Rhetoric R1a</p>

<p>alternates: Espm 50ac, Gender and women studies ac, anthropology</p>

<p>from these classes, what would you take (what order out of these classes)? thanx for your help!! (sry for bothering you, but you’re helping me more than you know!)</p>

<p>j31> I am not a Bio major, but I can make some comments on your schedule:</p>

<p>Math 16A : must take, coz of major prereq I presume?<br>
Sociology 3AC: AC requirement, if you want to get it out of the way early, then it’s cool.</p>

<p>So are you trying to take classics to satisfy breadth? If so, and you are taking Rhetoric 1a together, be prepared for lots of paper writing and reading.</p>

<p>16 units is a lot, and if you decide to go for it, then good luck!</p>

<p>how is the anthropology 1 class with richards?</p>

<p>anon5524485…would u recommend taking classics 10a?</p>

<p>would taking classics and english r1a be too much to take on?..thats wat im worried about</p>