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<p>He’s going to get a DPT? Why? Unless he’s doing research in this area, and is sponsored by one of the big medical companies, the pay won’t be that much when he finally graduates, compared to any engineering degree or anything in the STEM field. There is a PT working for for my FIL who is $240K in debt in student loans. He will never recoup that. What does your son plan on doing? Does he already have a medical company that will sponsor his research?</p>

<p>I don’t know of too many medical companies funding much research in the area of physical therapy. If he decides to work as a physical therapist, he will only be able to work for a limited amount of years as a PT because his body will take frequent abuse in lifting, twisting, turning, holding and bending people. </p>

<p>Bea, a DPT degree is the entry level degree for a person who wishes to be a practicing physical therapist; it is not a degree for a researcher. By the way, physical therapists do know how practice their profession without damaging their bodies.</p>

<p>Oh, a DPT, not a PHD !!! (huge difference) :slight_smile:
The 30% funding is nice, then.
At the grad school level there’s only merit. Nothing is need-based.
Your son COULD call the Dept since they gave him a nice scholarship so they must want
him to come, but there may well be no money.
IN NO CASE should YOU call. Imagine your mom calling your boss at work. Because
that’s the equivalent of what’s it’d be. Your son is now considered as an adult and a professional.
His “professional/ workplace” will be the grad school but he won’t be a “student” in the way one
may think of undergrads.</p>

<p>Hoosier mom: My point was surprise that the OP said a PHD for PT. And that the average PT cannot continue in the profession after a number of years. Yes they know how to take care of their bodies, but this is the common complaint I’ve heard from PT colleagues (older) when I work the rehab units.</p>

<p>Aunt Bea…in order to become licensed to practice Ohysical therapy, one NOW needs to hold a DPT (Doctorate in Physical Therapy). It is no longer possible to become a PT without the DPT. These programs are NOT fully funded programs in most cases. </p>

<p>I work with a number of Physical therapists. I’m no spring chicken myself, and these are my colleagues. Many are in their 50’s and 60’s. They are able to work in the profession without difficulty. </p>

<p>Agreed…30% funding for a DPT program is a good award. </p>

<p>As others have said, it’s now time that he is expected to advocate for himself. BrownParent has given you great advice. If your son wants to this program, he needs to call and let them know that he would commit to go there except for the cost and that he does not have family resources with to back him up so that a loan for him is inadvisable. If they cannot increase his award or stipend or offer job opportunities, he can’t afford to go there.</p>

<p>My friend’s daughter applied to a number of graduate programs, and only got partial funding for one. I suspect that these days, schools are running very short on money and are hoping that parents step in and help out even though the student is independent. Some programs out and out ask for parental financial resources and do expect money from parents who can pay. Remember schools can dole out their own money just about any way they please. Though my friend was loathe to do so,she and her DH did as many parents with the resources do–come up with the money so that their DD could go to the best regarded program. Because she did not take out any UG loans, they decided that some grad loans made sense. After two years in the program and getting her masters and getting the go ahead to continue for her PHD, she did get additional funding so that she does not have to take out any more loans and her parents do not have to pay either. But they did, for the first two years.</p>

<p>For certain programs; the kinds that tend lead to good job prospects with good pay scales, there are few or no grants and stipends. Most everyone has to pay. My son’s SO is in a master’s program that is full pay. It’s borrow or find someone to pay for you or come up with the money yourself. But upon completion, the pay scale is such that the loans for the program do pay off. </p>

<p>If the program is in a field that pretty much guarantees a good paying job, it might be worth while to take out the loans. If it’s in some field where the job opportunities are not so good, not a good idea at all, given that you don’t have the finances to help out much. My suggestion is for him to take a job for the year, and look for a number of schools/programs and apply again next year. Just like someone who is applying for undergraduate colleges and needs financial aid, your son needs to cast a wide net. He might want to look at programs that are within a commutable distance so that he can live at home so that if he does not get full funding he can still make it work with three squares and a cot provided. It’s a stereotype that is reality about the poverty stricken grad student, by the way. Many barely make ends meet as most stipends are not generous and do not cover living expenses unless cut to the bone, and taking out an loans is not usually a good idea. If absolutely necessary, and it looks like a promising way to go, it’s still important to take out the absolute minimum.</p>

<p>In my day, if a program was not worth borrowing for in expected increase in income and a pretty sure thing that jobs would be available after completing the program, if the school did not cough up the money, one did not go. You and your son might want to do some research and find out what percent of grad programs in his field are how well or how poorly funded, and what job prospects are after completing the program. There are a lot of PHDs out there who cannot find anything in their fields, feel lucky getting adjunct teaching positions or post grad jobs that are not even paying a living wage. To owe money on top of that is like a financial death knell. </p>

<p>All the advice that I and other’s were giving about a PhD program does not apply, now that we know it is a DPT program (and I defer to those who are familiar)</p>