Assault/Harassment thread

I love Rachel Maddow, but here I agree with Megyn Kelly, who has bitter experience with men she worked with being accused: “You don’t know what you don’t know.” Tom Brokaw may have treated Rachel Maddow, Kelly O’Donnell, Andrea Mitchell and Maria Shriver with honor and decorum, but that doesn’t tell us anything about how he treated other women.
http://people.com/tv/megyn-kelly-talks-tom-brokaw-allegations/

I maintained an open mind after one accusation, became suspicious after two, and three is making it look like the smoke is because there was a fire.

There are several news reports that many women at NBC felt pressured to sign that letter of support.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/if-nbc-staffers-really-were-pressured-to-sign-brokaw-support-letters-thats-a-big-legal-problem/

@partyof5

Work politics. Ugh. I can just imagine the pressure to sign the letter of support. I hadn’t thought of it until you posted the link.

I’m not sure how well known music critic & music journalist Jim DeRogatis of Sound Opinions is outside of Chicagoland. He has been reporting allegations of sexual abuse against R. Kelly for years (!).

It looks like the accusations are getting mainstream attention and gaining traction.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/01/arts/music/r-kelly-timesup-metoo-muterkelly.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

Recently, I heard DeRogatis lamenting how the music industry continues to protect R. Kelly and collect the money. DeRogatis said R. Kelly’s career has not been hurt in any significant way, and, pointed to the fact that Kelly would soon be playing a concert at the UIC Pavilion (May 5).

Last Friday, Ticketmaster announced R. Kelly has been pulled from the concert line-up. There is a #MuteRKelly campaign building up steam.

Sadly, some speculate that because the victims are young women of color, he has been getting a pass.

Don’t get me started in R Kelly. He should’ve been arrested when he married Aliyah.

The accusations against R. Kelly are atrocious and well-sourced. Seems like women and girls have been accusing him for forever. I don’t know why the accusations haven’t gotten traction before now, but I’m glad they finally are getting traction.

I just read the latest breaking news on Brokaw from some rag shreet which Fox promptly reported about 3 sentences of the entire story. He tried to kiss a woman 50 years ago and she felt compelled to tell the story because of #meto…I laughed so hard I almost fell off my chair. I think she was being satirical but it is too hard to tell. If not satirical a touch off. Folks we have officially jumped the shark.

Unbelievable…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p060m6qx

@BunsenBurner not really, it has been going on for years.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-r-kelly-report-claims-abuse-20170717-story.html

Yeah, I know. Unbelievable that stuff has been going on so long… and nothing has been done.

https://www.nytimes.com/podcasts/the-daily

Today’s The Daily podcast discusses the potentially ground-breaking lawsuit by Ashley Judd against Harvey Weinstein for economic damages to her career.

If you don’t remember, key to her case is the public acknowledgment by director Peter Jackson (Lord of The Rings trilogy) that Jackson was interested in casting Judd in his movie, but says Weinstein told him Judd (who had rebuffed Weinstein’s advances) was a nightmare to work with and Jackson acted based on the advice.

The podcast also has an interesting backstory to the Consent Movement at Antioch College in the late 80s early 90s and how it was widely mocked and ridiculed. Interviews with some of the women at the center of the grassroots movement. Ahead of their time, for sure, with the basic radical idea that it’s not enough for there to be an absence of “no”, but there needs to be a clear “yes”.

@Midwest67 I believe another actress was mentioned by Jackson…Marisa Tomei?..that’s the insidious nature of harassment. I don’t have much patience for adults who can’t take elementary precautions, or inflate a clumsy pass into something else, but what is done in the acting world (something I know a bit about) and has harmed, or destroyed careers, has been going on forever.

In a world where unemployment runs about 95%(yes mothers, don’t let your children grow up to be Cowboys, or Actors), a couple of whispers from powerful people can be devastating, and lead to long term joblessness. If name actors such as Judd can be harmed, imagine what the “little people” have to go through.

@57special do you mean Mira Sorvino?

Also, the morning news shows were saying there are numerous new accusations against Charlie Rose.

I think it was Mira Sorvino, not Marisa Tomei.

And now 27 more women have come forward to accuse Charlie Rose, and at least 3 managers had previous knowledge of the problems with him. Just smh at the insanity…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/charlie-roses-misconduct-was-widespread-at-cbs-and-three-managers-were-warned-investigation-finds/2018/05/02/80613d24-3228-11e8-94fa-32d48460b955_story.html?utm_term=.cb2319fbe004

The Academy has voted to expel both Bill Cosby and Roman Polanski.

So do you think we’ve turned the corner, and this won’t be going on any more?

:-j

No. It goes on. https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/rep-tony-cardenas-denies-allegations-in-lawsuit-alleging-child-sex-abuse/2018/05/03/0f2ef7d8-4f04-11e8-af46-b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?utm_term=.a0ede523fde5

Member of Congress, Tony Cardenas, accused of sexually assaulting a child.

@greenwitch

Yep. The more I read about the Charlie Rose allegations, the more I believe it had to have been an open secret.

Agree. I think someone or many someones generally know about workplace harassers/wanna be Lotharios. It is pretty difficult to keep secrets in a workplace. I think that is why the word “pervasive” is in most HR definitions.