astro

<p>I noticed that several ppl have astro-related sns, and others have astro-related ecs. Just wondering how many other ppl there were out there like me.</p>

<p>Astro+me- I’ve applied to harvard, berkeley, and penn state, based on undergrad astro program rankings according to an excellent astro prof here. I’ve loved astro for as long as I can remember, and officially declared it as my future major and started my college search based upon it as a major in 8th grade. I’ve done science olympiad since 7th grade, and medaled in states in the astro event each year. Because of this, I know my horizons and astronomy today books inside out-- I can find any topic in 5 seconds without the index. Since I live 5 min from Penn State’s campus, I’ve been very involved in activities there. I started out working at astrofest, the dept’s annual outreach program, and later wound up getting to do research. My main concentration has been on the lyman spectra of quasars.</p>

<p>astro+psu- I really like what psu has to offer. After working next to five undergrads for three months, I can tell that it would be a wonderful environment to spend my undergrad years in. Undergraduates not only get to do leading research, but get paid to do it. Almost all undergrads leaving here have been a primary author on a published paper. Because there are relatively few astro undergrads, each receives a lot of attention and can do research in almost anything they desire. The major downfall of psu is that while astro is very strong, its other departments are not, and its atmosphere is not so condusive to learning.</p>

<p>astro+berkeley- I keep hearing bad things. don’t think I’ll be going there.</p>

<p>astro+harvard- I wish I could say I knew as much about astro at harvard as I do at psu. Obviously, they are an outstanding research institution, and one of what I consider to be the big six astro publishing schools (the three above, plus cal-tech, mit, and princeton, which I hear to be more grad school oriented). What bothers me is that for the astro classes don’t act as prereqs for other astro classes, so I’m wondering how they can really connect. I mean, you obviously have to have physics to go into astro, but there is no way that physics alone can teach you everything you should have to know for an upper-level astro course. But the ultimate bonus about harvard is obviously the people who attend it, knowing that I could learn a lot from my peers. Plus there’s the fact that harvard is strong in every subject.</p>

<p>don’t take the above as an “I don’t really want to go to harvard” comment, because I do really want to go to harvard, I just want to know that wherever I go to school I will get the best astro education out of it as possible. I’m just hopeful that harvard can combine the best of both worlds, a wonderful atmosphere and a terrific astro experience. </p>

<p>anyway, this post is enough about me, b/c I want to learn about other astro ppl out there. It just seems like whenever I try to find ppl my age as obsessed w/ astro as I am, I never succeed.</p>

<p>Hey!</p>

<p>Well, I probably don't know as much about astronomy as you do, because u seem to be really into a lot of stuff, but I really do like it a lot. I've been fascinated with astronomy also for as long as I can remember and i'm considering it as my college major. My doubts come when I think there aren't many jobs for astronomers so that is why i also consider math (although there aren't that many jobs for that either).</p>

<p>I don't know which universities have good astronomy programs and if I have chances of getting into them....... I would really apreciate it if you could provide me with some info!</p>

<p>btw, i'm a spanish junior studying at an american school in Spain. I am considering college in the US or UK, but it is really hard for me to find information on anything.</p>

<p>Sorry for any grammar mistakes!
Thanks a lot for your help!</p>

<p>Julia</p>

<p>well, other than penn state (university park), harvard, and berkeley, I would say the best undergrad astronomy schools are princeton, cal tech, and mit. berkeley and penn state are the least competitive for admissions out of all of those, but they're public, so I don't know how much financial aid you'd get. the others are pretty much a reach school for everyone. </p>

<p>penn state does have an honors college, schreyer's, that provides a $2500 scholarship per year if admitted, and in addition has a science scholarship you can apply for that would cover full expenses (give out 10 per year). the cutoff to apply for schreyer's is approximately 1350 on the sat. the astro dept's site is <a href="http://www.astro.psu.edu%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.astro.psu.edu&lt;/a> if you want more info, and schreyer's is <a href="http://www.scholars.psu.edu%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.scholars.psu.edu&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p>

<p>as for the uk, cambridge is the best option. don't know too much about the other schools there, because I'd never be able to afford them, as I'm not an eu citizen.</p>

<p>grad school is a necessity when it comes to astro, and most people go on to get postdoctoral positions at universities, becoming either full-time researchers or professors who also do research. while the job market is not extremely large, I haven't heard of people have trouble finding positions.</p>

<p>Hey, thanks a lot!</p>

<p>The thing is I wouldn't need to apply for financial aid, but on the other hand my scores are not that good. I'm a good student, usually straight As, but I am quite disappointed with my sat scores (1270), which I WILL improve, so I'm kinda losing confidence in myself and i'm not so sure anymore that I'm going to be accepted into any of those colleges. I'm just trying to find colleges that are less hard to get into that still have good astronomy departments, just in case that 1270 is as high as my score can get and i am not accepted into any of those (which I wouldnt with that sat scores......)</p>

<p>Actually cambridge is not the best for astronomy in the UK according to "the times" but its third so its reputation and prestige would def. make the difference. Just in case u'd like to check it out, the university of liverpool looks great and its 11th on the rank. Anyway, these tables are simply guidelines, not info to take really seariously but anyway, I'll just copy part of the table for anyone interested in studying physics or astronomy in the UK: </p>

<p>1 Durham<br>
2 Oxford
3 Cambridge
4 Warwick
5 St Andrews
6 Leeds<br>
7 Queens, Belfast
8 Manchester<br>
9 Nottingham<br>
10 Swansea
11 Liverpool
12 York
13 Surrey<br>
14 Edinburgh
15 Imperial College
16 Bristol<br>
17 Bath<br>
18 Glasgow
19 Reading
20 Leicester </p>

<p>For the complete list visit: <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/displayPopup/0,,13441,00.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/displayPopup/0,,13441,00.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Thanks a lot anyways! You're being a great help! btw, are there astronomy-related jobs (not teaching) for astronomers? That is my other dilemma.... if I can't get into a good university I am not so sure if I will major in astronomy u know.... My biology teacher says we have to study whatever is our passion because if not we'll find ourselves in 20 yrs stuck with a job we don't like thinking: what if...? Dunno, he might be right. I'm actually still encouraged by that advice, and I hope it still works for my remaining year and a half of high school............</p>

<p>Well, sorry for rambling on this way........ Those are all the thoughts that come and go thru my mind.... hehee.</p>

<p>If you or any other member have any info or advice, i am all ears (not sure if that is an english expression or only spanish.......)! Thanks a lot astrophysicist2b for your help, and thanks in advance to you or any other member for upcoming replies!!</p>

<p>Julia</p>

<p>your scores are most likely good enough to get into penn state (middle 50% verbal scores: 530-630, math: 560-670). I would definitely consider applying. it's actually easy to get a double math/astro major at psu, in fact you could probably triple physics/math/astro without much of a problem. I know an undergrad now who's tripling, and he's doing well. Plus, if you decide to switch majors, the credits you earn in the first 2 years of the normal astro program are the basic courses for science and engineering, so you won't have to spend too much time catching up.</p>

<p>as for other astro-related jobs, there are observatory ones, and I'm sure nasa and esa have many. really, any way you a. research or b. teach and research.</p>

<p>Therese</p>

<p>p.s. all ears is an english expression too :)</p>

<p>Astro...I think you beat me in astro at SO in 10th grade (if you did it that year)...well, actually if you did it I'm sure you were one of the many people who beat me in that event.</p>

<p>yeah, I did do astro in 10th grade. forget where we placed, but we definitely medaled.</p>