<p>Respect, truth be told this is rather representative of things going on at ASU atm, not that just anyone can get in to ASU</p>
<p>[ASU</a> fraternity suspended after ‘offensive’ MLK party - CBS 5 - KPHO](<a href=“http://www.kpho.com/story/24502600/asu-fraternity-suspended-following-offensive-mlk-party]ASU”>http://www.kpho.com/story/24502600/asu-fraternity-suspended-following-offensive-mlk-party)</p>
<p>Truth be told, there are idiots at every campus in the country. At least ASU reacted very quickly to suspend the fraternity. This is NOT representative of the school. Not even representative of everyone in the Greek system which is a small 6% of the undergraduates. To say this is representative is itself offensive to the tens of thousands of other students and faculty who are themselves disturbed by the offensive behavior at this party.</p>
<p>I went to school with the dude on the left, he was a Republican then too #CmCMcgee and he is in Barrett lol</p>
<p>Stumbled over here as we were giving on last look to schools that give substantial scholarships to National Merit and National Achievement Finalist. ASU makes that list and provides a free trip to visit. However, it seems as though the reputation of the institution might make it a bit of a risk for future respect and graduate school admission. Are we reading this right or not? We are open to opinions on this.</p>
<p>In addition, without question we would want to see how the University handles the fraternity and students involved in the horrid MLK Jr. ‘celebration’ before taking even the free visit. Yes, things happen everywhere and clearly those students do not represent all of ASU; but it was an awful event and I’d like to see what the administration does. </p>
<p>Finally, is Barrett a different demographic of student, in general?</p>
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<p>Wise move to seek opinions, hopefully you will get a few here both good and not so good.</p>
<p>I’ll give you alittle perspective but you should take the time and search other threads we have had some discussions recently about where ASU stands and what’type’ of school it is:-</p>
<p>Dr Crow has made a concerted effort to ‘buy’ NMF to ASU and is one of the largest Schools offering merit aid to finalists it touts Barrett as worthy of consideration, its an enticing offer, but you are correct to understand where this might place students offered Merit now, but in 3/4 years were they to come to ASU, Graduate and seek either Grad school or employment.</p>
<p>ASU accepts about 88% of applicants (one of the highest admit rates), but graduates about 33% in 4 Years (one of the lowest 4 Year College graduation rates) now as a NMF its likely where-ever you matriculate the student will graduate in about 4 years or less.</p>
<p>Most of the NMF go into Barrett the Honors College, in our experience most graduate in 4 years, but recently we have seen drop-out of students from In-State High School students in later years from Barrett, Barrett recruit very heavily from the top In-State High Schools, not sure why students drop Barrett, but my impression is as Upperclassmen often living off-campus or back with parents (for cost reasons) Barrett in years 3-4 is of little benefit.</p>
<p>Do investigate the "Commuter School’ aspect to ASU, it comes into play mostly after freshman year, if thats what you want and is right for your student go for it, but I had yet another instance of this yesterday. Tempe HS student applying OOS as well as In-state, reluctantly is encourged to go to ASU by parents buying a car, but save expense by having student live at home, this negates any on-campus interaction and leads to the commuter lifestyle which most ASU students migrate to after a year in school.</p>
<p>As NMF you have alot of choices, merit aid offered is clearly one aspect, but the best schools for the best students often don’t need to offer merit aid to encourage the best students to attend.</p>
<p>As for the ASU MLK Frat party this week, you’re right, we’ll see what happens, its going down really poorly in Arizona, which is quite frankly a very backward conservative/ republican state with a very poor record on diversity and such. Some of the kids went to local schools and one photo shared is of a Barrett student. Poor respect from in-state employers and it doesn’t play well with employers OOS when ASU is affiliated with these instances, ASU has a very poor record on fraternities both before and since they were ‘thrown off campus’</p>
<p>ASU has now expelled the fraternity (as U of Arizona did to their chapter a bit over a year ago due to hazing/drinking issues.)</p>
<p><a href=“Help Center - The Arizona Republic”>Help Center - The Arizona Republic;
<p>Barrett demographics: [Barrett</a> Facts and Figures » Barrett, The Honors College](<a href=“http://barretthonors.asu.edu/about/facts/]Barrett”>Facts and Figures | Barrett, The Honors College | ASU) Many NHS, but not many NAFs. My daughter, a Barrett freshman, says there are 3 AA students on her Herberger(fine arts) dorm floor. And adds that they are really smart polished kids, very popular. Freshmen dorms organized by learning communities, so all the kids on her floor are fine arts majors. Barrett students are required to live in dorms first 2 years, though some locals may gain exemptions. </p>
<p>Click on ‘2012 Barrett graduates’ to see what some of them are doing now.</p>