<p>I have been looking at Loyola in Chicago, or the King's College located in New York City. The King's College really looked like it had everything I was looking for, it gives a lot of financial aid, and it's in a big city. The only problem was that it's on the religious side, but not nearly as much as other private colleges I've run into. I'm just worried that since the housing system is very close and the community is so small, that I'll run into conflicts concerning my religious views and sexual orientation. I'm not at all worried about the curriculum because I enjoy learning more about a religion, but I fear that I just won't really fit in that specific setting. </p>
<p>The same with Loyola. If anyone could give me any insight or could ease my anxieties, I'd be grateful.</p>
<p>There are oodles of colleges for all entrance levels in both NYC and Chicago. Is there any reason you aren’t considering those? Otherwise, I would suspect Loyola to be fine. I’m not that familiar with Kings.</p>
<p>Don’t confuse study of religions, which is available at even the most secular and ungodly of institutions with immersion in a genuinely Christian college or university. The former might be more rewarding for ones enthralled with discussion and debate. The latter might be better suited to one who’s gifts are genuine questioning, exploration, and listening in lieu of “talking at” and trying to defend a non-Christian path of life. Loyola might be better suited to the first profile, Kings the second. And there are MANY more of each in both locations. God can and does work in every locale … and campus … in His creation. So no need to be concerned of that. </p>
<p>The real issue for students considering this broad and confounding question might be discerning how hard he/she is after God vs. how hard God’ll have to knock for he/she to let Him in. :eek: :D</p>
<p>Wrestling and answering this question might lend some direction for institutional type. Atheists might be quite welcome at Wheaton or Taylor or others … but they’re worldviews would not be encouraged nor endorsed. God loves challenges, but he also loves those who freely come to him vs. being bludgeoned to submission. Not His style. So … if one is really on the path, earnestly looking … well, it’s nice having fellow-travelers. If one is devoted to exercising his/her keen intellect committed to the Devil’s advocacy of God’s presence? Well, ol’ Satan loves that opening. And each works differently in different types of places. But be sure, both are present at both.</p>
<p>Remember faith is NOT knowing. So we’re all faithful and free to choose the object of our faith. I choose He who made me, sustains me, and continues to love me.</p>
<p>I just found it, and honestly, I really love the location and the amount of money they’d give me. The fact that I don’t have to retake the SAT is attractive. But what other colleges do you think would fit my needs?</p>
<p>I’m looking to major in business or pre-law. I really want to go to law school in Illinois or New York, because that’s where I want to practice, and I think going there now would help me with that. I got a 1200 on my SAT (that’s just critical reading and math), I have about a 3.6 gpa, and 200+ hours of community service, 100+ hours internship in various legal fields, and (in 2013) I will have graduated from a legal studies academy.</p>
<p>I think you need to ask a lot more questions before you choose The King’s College–I’m not sure the top levels of its website reflect just how religious it is (or maybe it’s changed). Here’s it’s mission statement:
“Through its commitment to the truths of Christianity and a biblical worldview, The King’s College seeks to transform society by preparing students for careers in which they help to shape and eventually to lead strategic public and private institutions, and by supporting faculty members as they directly engage culture through writing and speaking publicly on critical issues.”</p>
<p>Do a search on this site and elsewhere before making any commitment to Kings. There has been a lot of uncertainity about their accredidation and the chances of being accepted into graduate schools.</p>
<p>My daughter (Protestant) attends a Catholic university. There are plenty of non-Christians at the school and they are not made to feel uncomfortable in any way. While her school does require courses in theology, they are very broad (choices include non-Christian options) and there is no attempt made to persuade anyone to a set belief system. She opted to take a class on Catholic history - wanted to take the trip to Italy and Germany that was part of the course -and vehemently argued with the priest over many issues; he graded her according to how well she could support her own opinions or Protestant positions. They had a wonderful time together on the class trip to Europe and she behaved herself during the private meeting the class had with Pope Benedict. Mutual respect accomplishes much.</p>
You are DEFINITELY underestimating the level of religious conservatism at King’s. They own their continued existence and NYC location entirely to Campus Crusade for Christ, which is, by the way, the school’s sole proprietor. And their president is a noted fundamentalist author and speaker. </p>
<p>There are plenty of colleges with religious affiliation that do not actually require being religious to attend. Examples include Georgetown, Earlham, or Duke. TKC is NOT one of those colleges from everything I’ve seen and heard of it. In addition, please look up how their academics, housing, and majors are actually structured, you will probably be very surprised. I think if you watch their own promotional video, you’ll find you were misunderstand the level of religiousness at The King’s College - [The</a> King’s Experience - YouTube](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yR-4MxhwfQ&feature=plcp]The”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yR-4MxhwfQ&feature=plcp)</p>
<p>As for Loyola, it is much less strict. Generally, the Loyola schools, partially owing to their Jesuit affiliation, are a little more religious than some other Catholic schools like, say, Georgetown. But it’s clear that people of other or no faiths are welcome from their website. Examples of ways you can see this are: Greek life (uncommon at strict religious colleges), the existence of a Common Ground/Gay-Straight Alliance club, etc. Still, I’d echo the above comment that there are LOTS of colleges in both NYC and Chicago. You should definitely explore other options in those areas.</p>
<p>A lot of Christians don’t care about your religion and most won’t try to convert you. </p>
<p>If you are scared about the troubles you may face, just don’t be so wide open about your sex and religion. Besides, the church isn’t a requirement, so you don’t have to go to it.</p>
<p>My daughter is Jewish, attending Fordham, their NYC campus, and is quite comfortable there. They have a wonderful law school, too, a new building for the law school is under construction.</p>
<p>Religious information is available, but not pushed. You have to take two religious classes, but you can choose from many, many classes.</p>
<p>Don’t knock what? Is somebody knocking something?</p>
<p>My kids went to a Kings College type school K-12, and a lot of their friends went to similar for college ( Masters, Biola, William Jessup, Azuza Pacific, Whitworth, Point Loma, Vanguard). My kids went to Duke and a Loyola. To me, they are work, ds apart. On a religiosness scale, I’d rank Duke as a 2 ( there is a chapel and people pray openly at events) , LMU, a 5, and The Kings College 9 of 10. Liberty is a 10 . One of D’s bff’s, 2340 on his first and only SAT, attended four years, but did not graduate , allegedly because he did not complete some of the religion classes. A friend at Biola left some papers around suggesting he had assignments due because he missed some church services. My son has said nothing about a religion class, and has yet to attend chancejrch.</p>
<p>Do your homework before commiting to any school, but especially this one. Check their coursework…no pre-law courses. Only Constitutional Law which by the way has to be taught by a professor without a law degree…as The King’s College does not have any faculty with a law degree. Housing is no where near the school…the men’s housing is in the lower east side and the women’s housing is in midtown. My son decided not to apply last year after speaking with the admissions people and some other folks associated with the school. Although christian, we are not born again christians and this school is fundamentally Christian. Campus Crusade for Christ is the sole proprietor. Loyola would be a much better choice and if you don’t like Chicago and want to be on the east coast – try Loyola in Maryland. Best of Luck to you in your decision</p>
<p>Don’t overlook Whistle Pig’s important point about the freedom of discourse you will find at a Christian school. My kids transferred to a Christian high school from a public school last year and were pleasantly surprised to find that no topic is off limits at their new school. There are a few atheists in their school and they regularly challenge the teachers in their required religion classes, resulting in great discussions that D says are far more honest (no fear of giving offense here!) than anything she encountered in public school, where her teachers trod very carefully to avoid offending anyone and getting sued or fired.</p>
<p>There is zero reason to go to undergraduate college in the city/state you eventually want to go to law school or practice law in. And there are hundreds of colleges that can prepare you well for law school. If you are not comfortable with a college for cultural or religious reasons, expand your search. Get a Fiske Guide to Colleges and look for more options.</p>
<p>Actually a lot of law firms, including non-NYC biglaw, seek ties to the area beyond law school attended (Chicago biglaw included). If looking lower than biglaw, then it is even more important.</p>
<p>OP: You should be quite comfortable at Loyola-Chicago.</p>
<p>Generally I don’t know why an athiest would go to a college with a religious affiliation, but it happens and can work out for bigger schools that have a diverse population like a Loyola, Villanova etc… but I think you’d be crazy to go to Kings not just because of that but also because it is really not a great or that respected school.</p>
<p>Actually god told me he doesn’t care very much for the southwest locale and won’t be working there anymore.
Too hot.
He says the “dry heat” thing is just a myth.
Go figure.</p>
<p>help. you seem to be the ticket to an answer, also respond to me, if possible at <a href="mailto:flyer@sbcglobal.net…don">flyer@sbcglobal.net…don</a>'t always check this.</p>
<p>my son might tolerate the idea of some thing greater than humanity, a power, if you will, but he certainly doesn’t go in for the Jesus, trilogy thing,and believes the Catholics are the worst of the bunch of jesus people, but we value what the Jesuits ahve done for education through out history. My son’s about to send an app to Boston College.</p>
<p>I was purusing their core yesterday and found one year, two semesters mandatory, entitled Theology. doesn’t sound like World Religions which might be tolerable for him, but more like Catechism, one would find at a catholic grade school or high school.</p>
<p>what do you think? there’s a catholic highschool here in town, Reno, NV entitled Manogue adn they have a mandatory religious ,Jesus, class. I know a straight A Eagle Scout who lost his straight A from skipping this class and barely passing it. no need to go after disaster, too late to contact the school - app due in days. help.</p>
<p>Never mind. I just went to Boston college’s website and there’s no way my son will do their core Jesus courses. thank goodness i found out before his app went out…best check georgetown’s core too.</p>
:eek: :D</p>