<p>What are your guys' opinions on this question? I mean undoubtedly, IVy league universities are cradles of social elites since the students who have attended there are of the best calibres and their inner qualities + the excellent education make them more prone to being sucessful later on. However, nowadays, more and more people believe that a diploma from one of the Ivy League school is like a ticket to a life of glamor and sucess? To be practical here, the huge network is beneficial but sometimes I feel such act of exclusion mirrors a sense of elitism and social superiority...</p>
<p>"a sense of elitism and social superiority..."</p>
<p>Yes it is. And it exists. There is nothing wrong with it as long as you don't look down upon people who are not as educated or connected as you are.</p>
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sometimes I feel such act of exclusion mirrors a sense of elitism and social superiority...
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Only in the mind. Graduation from an Ivy is not a guarantee of success, and graduating from a state school doesn't mean you can't have "a life of glamor and success." Much depends on a person's drive and ambition.</p>
<p>Agree with the above poster, it's what you do and how well you do that matters more than where you go to school</p>
<p>did you mean "exclusive" circle?? or is there something that im not getting</p>
<p>yeah opps typo exclusive</p>
<p>haha--another typo.</p>
<p>try "oops"</p>
<p>i think going to an ivy is helpful only if you want to be a CEO of a huge company or if youre going into politics
other than that, who cares lol</p>
<p>In my mind, graduating from an IV League school only makes it "easier" to suceed in life. If you graduate from BU lets say, you can still have just as a successful life, but you have to work harder. IV kids do all their work when they are young while non-IV kids end up doing all the hard work as adults. (Yes I refer to it as IV rather than Ivy"</p>
<p>i think thats true too. i mean, if you go to an ivy you will probably get jobs easier but once you get that job, you have to prove yourself and ppl will have higher expectations. </p>
<p>there are soo many pros and cons about ivy leagues</p>
<p>my crew coach told me a story about when he and his wife applied for a job at a boarding school....they had another couple who were also recently hired come up to them and say, "welcome to 'blank' school. just so you know, you got that new dorm with the bigger bathroom over us just because you graduated from penn."</p>
<p>does that make the couple elitest? NOT AT ALL. however, there is that connotation on the resume and lets face it, graduating from an ivy league institution says a lot about work ethic, competence etc. yet it doesnt necessarily make someone elitest.</p>
<p>So being snobbish is one thing but being smart is another. I hope if I get into Cornell, I won't meet anyone who thinks he can take over the world.</p>
<p>scratch ivy and use 'top schools' instead. There are plenty of non-ivies (MIT, Stanford, UChicago, etc.) that get you into that circle of elitism as well.</p>
<p>Well I'm a GT so I have a funny outlook on this. I am spending my first year at Stonehill College...</p>
<p>Person1: "Where do you go to college?"
Me: "Stonehill"
Person1: "o, cool..."</p>
<p><em>Pause</em></p>
<p>Me: "O, but I am also transfering to Cornell next year"
Person1: "Wooooah!! <em>Amazed face</em> "What's your major going to be"
Me: "Industrial Labor Relations"
Person1: "I don't even know what that is...but I know ur gonna be sooo successful in life!"</p>
<p>LOL! It has literally happened to me a lot...not even exaggerating. Just happened again yesterday which sparked me to write this post. Whether at Stonehill or Cornell...I'm still me. While at Cornell it's like...<em>Ivy Me</em> or something lol. O well...I'm not complaining lol :)</p>
<p>Haha, Figgy, you are funny~ Someone told me the other day that when people heard he went to Cornell, they all had this " OMG, You must be damn smart" look on their face~</p>
<p>its sad that that same look doesnt happen when someone says UVa. or U.Chicago</p>
<p>but then again you shouldnt care what other people think of where you are going to college</p>
<p>Yeah, most of my list is full of great, "no-name" (basically) colleges like UChicago, Wesleyan...hell, people even ask where Brown is!</p>
<p>You are mistaken if you think that people are unfamiliar with the excellent reputation of schools like Univ of Chicago and UVa.</p>
<p>Depends on the people you are talking about. Here in good ole' Texas, EVERY SINGLE PERSON I've told has asked where Brown, UChicago, and Wesleyan are and why I'd wanna go there instead of UTAustin. :rolleyes: disappointing...yes.</p>
<p>Edit: Make that everyone except my main teacher/advisor...but that's b/c her daughter went to Andover and then Columbia. She's familiar with higher education, whereas most people only know about Harvard and Yale.</p>
<p>Well, b/c Cornell has a large alumni network (I mean bigger than any other highly-selective university) , Cornell is naturally more famous than Brown and Dartmouth though they are all equally good in my opinion. </p>
<p>U-Chicago should deserve more reputation. So sad that few know how great U-Chicago is. Well, U-Chicago does have a alumni network but it is not as strong or as dynamic as Cornell's. </p>
<p>Someone told me that U-Chicago students are too busy doing academic works and few bother to socialize....</p>