<p>I put auditing in quotes because what I've been able to negotiate with the instructor is that I will take all the tests and do all the homeworks, and he'd give me a pseudo-grade, and the head of the Physics department at our school would write a letter or indicate somehow to colleges that I was qualified to take the class but could not due to the lack of space in it. If I am one of his top students, the teacher would even write me a college recommendation.</p>
<p>How would this look to colleges? How much would it resemble/how close is it to actually taking the course? Will I get nearly as much recognition for taking that course? I want to go into engineering so this class is kinda a must.</p>
<p>If not, I still benefit from being able to take the Physics C exams and get college credit, but the most important part is demonstrating something to colleges. How much would colleges care/recognize it?</p>
<p>I mean… was it a scheduling thing where they only took the first 20 kids? </p>
<p>I feel like taking a Physics class at a nearby college might be a better option, colleges will wonder why there wasn’t room for you in it, if that is the case. </p>
<p>Our year is just insanely competitive. In all previous years there were always about 10 extra seats left over. This year, there were 28 extra kids trying to get into the class. It’s ridiculous.</p>
<p>My nearby college is a really crappy one though (BMCC). Can it just be ANY college or does it have to be somewhat good? Also can you still start taking it at a nearby college this late in the year?</p>
<p>This class won’t be on your transcript, right? I don’t think this is worth your time, honestly. But if you have super interested in this subject, then continue auditing and ask your guidance counselor to mention that you took this on top of all of your other classes.</p>
<p>If the department head of physics at our school and the instructor of this course gives me a grade AND mentions that I was QUALIFIED to take the class (didn’t get in due to one class being cut this year, scheduling conflicts with my other APs, on top of there being limited space) colleges won’t even pay the slightest attention to it? Or will they?</p>
<p>I mean I want to get into engineering and all I have for my science AP is AP chemistry. I need some kind of above introductory level physics to show them, and it’s either this or taking at a community college, but the community college next to my school is notorious for being horrible.</p>
<p>I think this is a very good idea. You’ve not only show that you learned AP C, you also show initiative (talking the teacher into letting you sit in a class) and nice problem solving skills. You didn’t allow being shut out prevent you from learning the material. Have your GC mention this in his letter to colleges.</p>
<p>I’ve decided to take this course instead of auditing. It has a hefty price tag, but I am applying for financial aid, which could potentially give me an 80% discount. However, the problem is that this course takes 16 weeks and I want to squeeze it in to finish my mid-December. Is that possible?</p>
<p>interestingly enough im taking calculus A through that atm (my school is giving me credit to work through the A, B, C program… my school doesn’t offer calc bc), its really hard not so much in the material, as in they dont give you set due dates everything is just “suggested”. If you are super motivated and already know the intro stuff go for it, if not BE WARNED: its hard to stay on top of things when they dont penalize you for turning in stuff late. </p>
<p>Also, courses start at the first of the month (though there is a way to start them earlier, ive never done it and it costs more money), so you’d be starting in November, with that taken into account I would say it’s very unlikely that you would be able to finish the course in 16 weeks. Is it a possibility to use the whole year to take AP Physics C Mechanics (its its own ap test), leaving electricity and magnetism for college? My school is making me take both exams, and I think that’s standard policy, but hey, doesn’t hurt to ask.</p>
<p>No one is going to drop it. Physics C is the course of the best students in the school (hardest science course) and all of those kids would rather jump off a cliff and hope to survive than drop an AP course. There’s a reason why it always had seats and this year it was overloaded; our Class of 2015 is very, VERY, competitive, every man for himself. </p>
<p>What I plan to do is demonstrate my interest in learning by both auditing the course AND taking the online course. I plan to do both. My guidance counselor said it would be best if I wrote about the audit by my own, but do you still think I should ask him to do it and bug him to do it anyways?</p>
<p>Also, are you sure the classes start November? Aren’t they self paced?</p>
<p>If not, I will self study the material starting now so I can blaze through the beginning parts of the course (by taking the tests without needing the lessons and notes for the earlier lessons) and by doing that speed it up a lot.</p>
Wow, your school really seems designed to have students fail rather than get ahead. You talking about auditing some class is meaningless. Why not say you’ve audited classes every semester and at your local CC to boot? The point is claims you make are much weaker than statements by a counselor.</p>
<p>And why this “audit” stuff? I had a friend in HS who wanted to take a math class but it didn’t fit into his schedule. They let him sign up for it anyway, he did self-study, took all the tests, did the homework, it ended up on his transcript as if his smiling face had been enrolled like any other student. Why won’t your school let you do this? Have you asked? Had your parents ask if turned down?</p>
<p>Yes, in a sense our school is designed to have us fail. They won’t put the class on my transcript because the maximum amount of students allowed in a class is 34 and audit is the only option. My case isn’t that the class didn’t fit, but that the class was filled before my name on the waiting list was reached. The class has already taken 3 exams, so I don’t think I can still take all the tests, and it is probably too late at this point. I will definitely try to get my guidance counselor to add that I audited the class, though. If there is a way to get my school to add it to my transcript or get my guidance counselor to write that I audited the class, can you PM me and tell me about it? Actually, I’ll just PM you as I have a few questions, if you don’t mind.</p>
<p>My high school probably won’t even offer high school (dual) credit for the EPGY course that I linked to earlier. Yes, I know it sucks.</p>
@Mathematical, these sound like made-up rules. If that’s what you’ve been told its time to bring your parents on board. Have your parents start by talking with your counselor, then the principal, then the school board. Have them make it clear (in a polite but firm way) at each step that if you are not given credit for this class (assuming you complete it, pass all tests, etc) they will continue to escalate this as far as they can. And have them mean it, too. A lot of schools are filled with little Napoleon’s that make up rules to suit themselves and get away with it because they are never challenged. I find it hard to believe that your school board has established this as policy, same as for the EPGY class whatever that is. </p>
<p>Even if there is some enrollment cap on the actual AP Physics C class due to state rules or something on maximum class size, they just enroll you in an independent-study session of that class (which is what you are doing) and then give you credit. That’s what they did for my friend in HS, am wondering why they can’t do it at your school too. I mean, what if they had a teacher available to actually teach a 2nd session of AP Physics C? Would they refuse to offer it because their school is only allowed 34 students to take AP Physics C? That would be ridiculous, and so is what they are doing. </p>
<p>Sorry, I don’t respond to PM messages. If I have anything to say I’ll say it here in public.</p>