Audition/class size numbers

<p>I know this is addressed in various threads but I thought it would be nice to centralize it for next years class. I'll start with the schools that I know and then the next poster can either post or copy and paste it until we add all the schools. Try and post only numbers that you feel are from reliable sources.</p>

<p>Baldwin-Wallace 200/12
Penn State 500/12 (18 accepted to yield 12)
Michigan 450/22 (650 applicants-450 academically eligible to audition)</p>

<p>I found more numbers on other threads-please update with more accurate/recent figures if you have them!</p>

<p>Baldwin-Wallace 200/12
BOCO 1000/40 (accept 57)
CCM 750/24 (accept 30)
Elon 350/16 (accept30)
FSU 240/12
Indiana 315/10 (accept 12-15)
Ithaca 500/12 (accept 32)
Michigan 450/22 (650 applicants-450 academically eligible)
Otterbein 340/8 (accept 10?)
Penn State 500/12 (18 accepted to yield 12)
Syracuse 800/30 (accept 60)
UArts 600/24</p>

<p>Baldwin-Wallace 200/12
BOCO 1000/40 (accept 57)
CCM 750/24 (accept 30)
Elon 350/16 (accept30)
FSU 240/12
Indiana 315/10 (accept 12-15)
Ithaca 500/12 (accept 32)
Michigan 450/22 (650 applicants-450 academically eligible)
North Carolina School of the Arts 900/20 male 10 female
Otterbein 340/8 (accept 10?)
Penn State 500/12 (18 accepted to yield 12)
Syracuse 800/30 (accept 60)
UArts 600/24</p>

<p>Baldwin-Wallace 200/12
BOCO 1000/40 (accept 57)
CCM 750/24 (accept 30)
Elon 350/16 (accept30)
FSU 240/12
Indiana 315/10 (accept 12-15)
Ithaca 500/12 (accept 32)
JMU 100/9 freshman; 2 transfers (accepted 18 freshman; 2 transfers)
Michigan 450/22 (650 applicants-450 academically eligible)
North Carolina School of the Arts 900/20 male 10 female
Otterbein 340/8 (accept 10?)
Penn State 500/12 (18 accepted to yield 12)
Syracuse 800/30 (accept 60)
UArts 600/24</p>

<p>This is a very helpful thread -- putting the information in one place. One thing to remember -- most schools aim for the same class size from year to year, so if a school feels like their "yield formula" is off one year they may adjust it the followinging year. Also -- since most schools try to keep a similar class size from year to year if they see a large spike in the number of students auditioning for their program in a given year (or a large decline), the percentage accepted could change significantly from one year to the next.</p>

<p>For Example -- I teach at JMU in VA. Last year we saw 70 total auditions for the Musical Theatre Concentration. This year we saw 100 total auditions for the Musical Theatre Concentration, yet both years we accepted the same number of students going from a 30% admit rate to a 20% admit rate in one year. If next year we saw 130 students audition we would still accept no more than 16 - 20 (this number includes freshmen and transfers), and as a result our admit rate would go to 12% - 15%. This is still a MUCH higher admit rate than the BFA programs listed above, but ever evolving.</p>

<p>I give this example to help put the information above within context -- while the information above is VERY useful in terms of putting together a list of schools, and getting a sense of the general selectivity of a program, the specific numbers will fluctuate from year to year. </p>

<p>BEST OF LUCK to the class of 2009 as you embark on this exciting year!!</p>

<p>:)</p>

<p>Baldwin-Wallace 200/12
BOCO 1000/40 (accept 57)
CCM 750/24 (accept 30)
CMU 1000/28 (Acting: 16, MT: 12)
Elon 400/20 (accept 24)
FSU 240/12
Hartt 400/25 (accept 60)
Indiana 315/10 (accept 12-15)
Ithaca 500/12 (accept 32)
JMU 100/9 freshman; 2 transfers (accepted 18 freshman; 2 transfers)
Michigan 450/22 (650 applicants-450 academically eligible)
North Carolina School of the Arts 900/20 male 10 female
Otterbein 340/8 (accept 10?)
Penn State 500/12 (18 accepted to yield 12)
Syracuse 800/30 (accept 60)
UArts 600/24</p>

<p>Thanaks Tiff-anybody have real numbers for all the studios at Tisch?</p>

<p>Thanks so much guys, this is a great help. I vote for a sticky :)</p>

<p>I'm curious about Tisch, too. Anyone know?</p>

<p>Fixing Baldwin-Wallace</p>

<p>Baldwin-Wallace 300/12-14 (accept 20)
BOCO 1000/40 (accept 57)
CCM 750/24 (accept 30)
CMU 1000/28 (Acting: 16, MT: 12)
Elon 400/20 (accept 24)
FSU 240/12
Hartt 400/25 (accept 60)
Indiana 315/10 (accept 12-15)
Ithaca 500/12 (accept 32)
JMU 100/9 freshman; 2 transfers (accepted 18 freshman; 2 transfers)
Michigan 450/22 (650 applicants-450 academically eligible)
North Carolina School of the Arts 900/20 male 10 female
Otterbein 340/8 (accept 10?)
Penn State 500/12 (18 accepted to yield 12)
Syracuse 800/30 (accept 60)
UArts 600/24</p>

<p>I don't know real numbers, but as my D went there I can tell you they accept many, I believe over 200. There are 6 studios the students are assigned to, only CAP 21 takes a really small #, her own studio had about 60 plus students in the freshman class. I think her studio was on the large side but still, when you consider there are 6 altogether..
When you look at a school's audition dates on their website you can kind of guess how many audition, just do the math, if they're only running one audition room at a time and see students at 10 minutes intervals during an 8-9 hr day.</p>

<p>Thanks for the correction on BW. I am really curious as to how many kids auditioned at NYU.</p>

<p>Just to clarify a couple of incorrect numbers given above. Tisch auditioned around 2300 this year to enroll approximately 350 which are split between the 8, not 6, studios. The studios do vary in size but actually CAP21 is not one of the smaller ones. The numbers there, are usually, accepting 80 to enroll approximately 65.</p>

<p>Baldwin-Wallace 300/12-14 (accept 20)
BOCO 1000/40 (accept 57)
CCM 750/24 (accept 30)
CMU 1000/28 (Acting: 16, MT: 12)
Elon 400/20 (accept 24)
FSU 240/12
Hartt 400/25 (accept 60)
Indiana 315/10 (accept 12-15)
Ithaca 500/12 (accept 32)
JMU 100/9 freshman; 2 transfers (accepted 18 freshman; 2 transfers)
Michigan 450/22 (650 applicants-450 academically eligible)
North Carolina School of the Arts 900/20 male 10 female
NYU Tisch 2300/350 (all studios)
Otterbein 340/8 (accept 10?)
Penn State 500/12 (18 accepted to yield 12)
Syracuse 800/30 (accept 60)
UArts 600/24</p>

<p>Thanks, AlwaysAMom. And since this is a MT Forum, and the numbers above are for all of Tisch Drama (8 studios), the admit rate reflected in those numbers is higher than for MT alone (CAP21). I don't have the exact number but at least 1000 (may be higher actually) audition specifying CAP21 as their first choice studio (and do a MT audition). They may accept about 75 to yield 64. These are approximate figures and may not be entirely up to date on this year's cycle but would be good to include in the chart to show the rate for the MT program itself. </p>

<p>Also, I am glad that for many, but not ALL, of the programs, people are listing the number admitted and not JUST the slots in the class. A common misconception that I see on CC OFTEN is that X number apply for Y number of slots but not realizing it is about how many are accepted to yield Y number of slots. When figuring an acceptance rate, it is about the number ADMITTED, not the number of slots in the program.</p>

<p>Another common misconception I have observed here over the years is when talking of wait lists, some seem to think that if not all accepted choose to enroll, the school may go to a wait list and for MANY (not all schools) they have accepted more than they plan to yield and so may not need to use a wait list if not all who were accepted attend as "extras" were already built into the acceptance group. There are exceptions such as CMU who accepts the exact number of slots and uses a wait list if not all enroll.</p>

<p>Also, I think with Otterbein, they accept 8 for BFA in MT, the exact number of slots in the class and if not all take the offer, they go to a wait list.</p>

<p>Thanks Soozievt-I was hoping you'd chime in and check the numbers!</p>

<p>Adding USC and UCLA -
UCLA is a BA and includes Acting, MT, Directing, Theatre Studies
USC's BFA is strictly Acting</p>

<p>Baldwin-Wallace 300/12-14 (accept 20)
BOCO 1000/40 (accept 57)
CCM 750/24 (accept 30)
CMU 1000/28 (Acting: 16, MT: 12)
Elon 400/20 (accept 24)
FSU 240/12
Hartt 400/25 (accept 60)
Indiana 315/10 (accept 12-15)
Ithaca 500/12 (accept 32)
JMU 100/9 freshman; 2 transfers (accepted 18 freshman; 2 transfers)
Michigan 450/22 (650 applicants-450 academically eligible)
North Carolina School of the Arts 900/20 male 10 female
NYU Tisch 2300/350 (all studios)
Otterbein 340/8 (accept 10?)
Penn State 500/12 (18 accepted to yield 12)
Syracuse 800/30 (accept 60)
UArts 600/24
UCLA 1500/65
USC 500 (accept 26 to 30 to yield 20 - as of 4/24 spots were committed for 9 male and 10 female)</p>

<p>Also - as an aside - UCLA and USC do not use waitlists - it might be interesting to add that information to the list as well...</p>

<p>Jacksdad, I am not certain how many stipulate CAP21 but a while back, Arthur Bartow from Tisch had posted (so not this year's numbers) that 1000 audition for CAP and so given that now 2300 auditioned for all of Tisch, it could be that more than 1000 tried for CAP but I am not privy to any direct information. But I will add the rough number for CAP to the list. I do know that they strive for a class of 64.</p>